New Jets boss already making impact -- even in the team cafeteria

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[h=1]New Jets boss already making impact -- even in the team cafeteria[/h]


FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The New York Jets unveiled their new boss Wednesday, trotting out Christopher Johnson to the media. This was his first moment in the spotlight, his first chance to discuss his role and vision for the franchise -- and, perhaps most importantly, his first opportunity to assuage a fan base that has lost confidence in his older brother, Woody Johnson, the owner-turned-ambassador.

It wasn't a large-scale, Tebow-esque news conference, only a small, no-cameras-allowed gathering in a conference room at One Jets Drive, but Johnson still impressed. He was realistic about the present state of the team and hopeful about the future. He exuded confidence, indicating that he will be his own man, not a puppet for his older brother. He joked that he wants to make the Super Bowl one day and leave two tickets for Woody at will call because "every little brother wants to show up his big brother."
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Christopher Johnson, left, with GM Mike Maccagnan, has stepped in for his older brother, Jets owner Woody Johnson, who is overseas serving as a U.S. ambassador. Brad Penner/USA TODAY Sports

Brilliant. Where has this guy been hiding?

Johnson struck the right chords in a 20-minute session with reporters, yet it was something he did behind the scenes that resonated the most with the men he employs. Johnson visited the team cafeteria and sat down for lunch with the players. On this day, he ate with running backs Matt Forte and Bilal Powell. Other players noticed, including tackle Kelvin Beachum, whose first NFL owner -- the late Dan Rooney -- did that on a daily basis with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

"That stuff goes a long way," Beachum said. "I know this is a business, and these owners run $2 billion corporations, but it's still a people business. It's cool when an owner does that. That's big for me because it shows they care."

Johnson looks like his older brother and sounds like him at times, but their personalities and approaches are different. Christopher won't be an every-day-at-the-office owner like John Mara and Robert Kraft, but he's planning to be around as much as possible. Woody was so involved in the 2016 presidential campaign -- first for Jeb Bush, then for Donald Trump -- that it took him away from his football team for nearly two years. He attended games and kept in touch with his top football people, but his absence was noticed in the locker room.

Now it's Christopher Johnson's show. Big Brother is watching, but he isn't meddling, according to Christopher.

After 17 years in a background role -- rarely seen and never heard -- Christopher Johnson said he is in charge of the Jets and will make all the decisions. There will be some big ones in the coming months, namely regarding the futures of general manager Mike Maccagnan and coach Todd Bowles. Johnson said he won't be dialing his big bro in London for input on those or any other issues confronting the franchise.

"We are not discussing football," Johnson said of his brother, the U.S. ambassador to the United Kingdom. "He's out of it."

It was important for Johnson to convey authority because the last thing the Jets need is the perception that Woody is calling the shots from Winfield House, the London mansion that will be his home. A two-headed owner, coupled with a two-headed power structure in football ops (Maccagnan and Bowles), would be too many heads for a team that figures to get its tail kicked.

If Christopher truly is in charge -- he's the chairman and CEO -- that's good news for the Jets. It's time for a fresh perspective. Let's be honest: One of the reasons the Jets are where they are is because of Woody, who has presided over 17 years of mediocrity. When he handed the team to Christopher, he told him, "It's your team. Don't mess it up."

Too late, it already is. Christopher's job is to clean it up. The plan is for Woody to resume control when his overseas gig is up.

It's certainly fair to wonder about Christopher's qualifications -- he didn't play football or grow up in football -- but I can tell you this: He isn't a "neophyte" (his word) when it comes to the Jets. A minority owner since Woody bought the team in 2000, Christopher has been involved in a behind-the-scenes capacity, serving as a sounding board for his brother. The first big decision on his watch was the Sheldon Richardson trade. So far, that looks like a win for the Jets.

Johnson said he won't judge Maccagnan and Bowles on the win-loss record, claiming that the GM and coach will be evaluated on how the team progresses through the season. He sounded a bit Pollyanna-ish when he said the answer "will be obvious." Decisions such as that usually aren't black and white. His praise for Maccagnan and Bowles seemed a bit over the top, considering they've lost 14 of their past 19 games, but he wanted to show support.

For the most part, the new boss said all the right things and avoided the usual PR spin. It was straight talk, and it was a breath of fresh air, right down to his appeal to the fan base: "My biggest challenge is to earn the trust of the fans, to have them know I care about this team deeply, and I'm going to do everything I can to make it a great team again."
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I know many here have made a habit out of dumping on Woody. They think he somehow is responsible for all the bad decisions this team has made since he purchased the team.

I think it's a lot of BS.

The only bad decisions Woody has made is poor hiring choices the way I see it. All the bad choices Mac and Toilet have made, they are 100% responsible for. Woody is merely a supportive and hopeful check signer. He believes in the people in his employ and that's the only way you can be.

Now people can complain that he's responsible for this and that but they have zero to support their accusations? Only unfounded beliefs.

However, with that said, lets hope like hell that Chris makes much better hiring choices than Woody.
 

Namath12

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"The only bad decisions Woody has made is poor hiring choices..." Exactly what else is IS there in judging an owner? Perpetuating the little brother relationship by sharing a stadium with the Giants? Oh, wait. he did that too. Meddling in personnel decisions by falling in love with Sanchez at his workout for the Jets? Oh, wait. He did that too. Selling PSLs? Check. Being partially responsible for Belichick resigning? Check.

It astounds me that you correctly malign Bowles and Mac, yet give a pass to the man who hired them. Oh, wait. Let's not forget that he FIRST hired Bowles and THEN hired Mac with the proviso that Mac was OK with Bowles.! Oh, and BOTH men must report directly to that well known football savant, Woody Johnson. How's that working out for you?

Last, but not least, how is it that in your mind Woody gets a pass for firing your beloved Rex?

Woody was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and wanted a toy to play with. He is an abject failure as an owner. I put him in the same class as James Dolan.
 
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"The only bad decisions Woody has made is poor hiring choices..." Exactly what else is IS there in judging an owner? Perpetuating the little brother relationship by sharing a stadium with the Giants? Oh, wait. he did that too. Meddling in personnel decisions by falling in love with Sanchez at his workout for the Jets? Oh, wait. He did that too. Selling PSLs? Check. Being partially responsible for Belichick resigning? Check.

It astounds me that you correctly malign Bowles and Mac, yet give a pass to the man who hired them. Oh, wait. Let's not forget that he FIRST hired Bowles and THEN hired Mac with the proviso that Mac was OK with Bowles.! Oh, and BOTH men must report directly to that well known football savant, Woody Johnson. How's that working out for you?

Last, but not least, how is it that in your mind Woody gets a pass for firing your beloved Rex?

Woody was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and wanted a toy to play with. He is an abject failure as an owner. I put him in the same class as James Dolan

I could slice every one of these incredible claims one by one, but I don't have to. If he thinks long and hard enough he'll know:

1) He had zero choice in going in with the Giants on the new stadium. He spent millions attempting to get the Jets their own stadium. NY politicians voted it down. If you want to blame someone blame the politicians in Dolans pocket. Get over it.

2) He did not meddle into any decision Tanny and Rex made. Tanny was the one that ultimately made the wrong decision regarding Sanchez, Woody merely agreed with it and supported it. Please provide proof to the contrary if you actually have any? But you don't.

3) Selling PSL's was a decision made by other owners long before Woody got involved. It's also called maximizing profits. It's what any good businessman would have done. If you have a problem with it, start confronting it by assassinating Jerry Jones and moving on until you get to Woody.

4) Please provide proof that Woody had anything to do with BB resigning. You don't have any.

5) It's not the first time an owner has hired his own HC and GM and have them answer to the owner. The only thing I blame Woody for is hiring them. It was a bad choice. Go take a look at Bill Bidwell and see how many poor hiring choices he made. It could be a LOT worse.

6) Woody fired Rex based on pressure from lunatic fans like yourself. Irrational accusations from fans like you. Idzik was the only one that needed to be fired, but Woody pleased irrational fans like you.

7) Last but certainly not least, if you have a problem with Woody being born rich, then I would think suicide is your only option? It isn't about to change. Incidentally, if you born rich like Woody and someone else was very clearly JEALOUS, how would you react?
 

Namath12

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This is over the top. I have never seen a post on any forum that suggested assassination and suicide in the same post. That's my "irrational" response.
 

Elias

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This is over the top. I have never seen a post on any forum that suggested assassination and suicide in the same post. That's my "irrational" response.

Agreed. Mainejet tone down your bullshit please.

Anyways, back to Woody. I believe he is doing just fine as an Owner. He just had a string of bad luck with some of his hires. Every owner goes through this stuff except maybe Robert Kraft. Since Woody has been the owner, our Jets havent been as irrelevant as they have been in all the other years. This latest regime is changing everything though
 

Elias

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Anyways, I have no problem with Woody. He's not the reason we suck. Having said that, I am a lot more impressed with his brother's press conference than I every was with anything that Woody said. I think he will try to change things and make a point to be different than Woody. I see Mac and Bowles or at least Bowles gone after this season. Johnson will pick his own coach.
 

soj

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"The only bad decisions Woody has made is poor hiring choices..." Exactly what else is IS there in judging an owner? Perpetuating the little brother relationship by sharing a stadium with the Giants? Oh, wait. he did that too. Meddling in personnel decisions by falling in love with Sanchez at his workout for the Jets? Oh, wait. He did that too. Selling PSLs? Check. Being partially responsible for Belichick resigning? Check.

It astounds me that you correctly malign Bowles and Mac, yet give a pass to the man who hired them. Oh, wait. Let's not forget that he FIRST hired Bowles and THEN hired Mac with the proviso that Mac was OK with Bowles.! Oh, and BOTH men must report directly to that well known football savant, Woody Johnson. How's that working out for you?

Last, but not least, how is it that in your mind Woody gets a pass for firing your beloved Rex?

Woody was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and wanted a toy to play with. He is an abject failure as an owner. I put him in the same class as James Dolan.

Please provide proof about your statement regarding bellcheat. Please provide facts and not your opinion. Otherwise its just gibberish.
 
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Agreed. Mainejet tone down your bullshit please.

Anyways, back to Woody. I believe he is doing just fine as an Owner. He just had a string of bad luck with some of his hires. Every owner goes through this stuff except maybe Robert Kraft. Since Woody has been the owner, our Jets havent been as irrelevant as they have been in all the other years. This latest regime is changing everything though

So let me get this straight, Elias. You choose to admonish me for responding to a very clearly inaccurate post loaded with totally unfounded accusations? Accusations that apparently even YOU do not agree with?

My post merely pointed out that no matter how I respond, there's no way I'll ever be right in his eyes? He's well beyond any sort of rational conversation. He only wants blood and apparently I may end up in his aim because I had the audacity to claim he's WRONG.

OK. I get it. No matter what I post I will always be wrong, right?
 
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Please provide proof about your statement regarding bellcheat. Please provide facts and not your opinion. Otherwise its just gibberish.

It's ALL gibberish, SOJ. He can't provide a shred of proof for any of it.
 
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Anyways, I have no problem with Woody. He's not the reason we suck. Having said that, I am a lot more impressed with his brother's press conference than I every was with anything that Woody said. I think he will try to change things and make a point to be different than Woody. I see Mac and Bowles or at least Bowles gone after this season. Johnson will pick his own coach.

All due respect, I do think he's the reason we suck? He's guilty of horrible hiring choices. Those bad hiring choices are running this organization in the ground.
 

Namath12

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I have always read every NY newspaper. In addition, I was a subscriber to Pro Football Weekly, Sports Illustrated, and The Sporting News. It was widely reported at that time, by both beat writers and the "insiders" in the NFL (the Adam Schefter and Chris Mortenson types of that era. Actually, I think that Mort was one of the writers who reported on this.) that there were 3 main reasons for Belichick leaving. In no particular order, they were:

1. He wanted to get out of Parcells' shadow and be his own man.
2. He felt uncertainty about Woody and Dolan. If I remember correctly, this whole thing came down around the time of the transition from Hess. Woody and Dolan were the final 2 candidates to buy the team.. Since this isn't a trial, I'm not going to look up the exact dates. I do recall that there were reports that Belichick was not comfortable with either one.. I don't know the specifics as to why.
3. Belichick had a good relationship with Kraft.

Of course, if someone is pre-disposed not to believe anything that contradicts one's own opinions, I guess that the multiple reports that I read will be dismissed by The Defenders Of Woody as "fake news," or "gibberish." You want *proof?* That is literally impossible to come by, as only Belichick knows what was going through his mind at the time. But there were multiple reports at the time from sources close to the evil genius. Not positive, but I believe that Parcells has said pretty much the same points as I listed.

Just curious. What is your opinion of Woody as an owner?

For those of you who like Woody as an owner, here ARE some FACTS:

1. There has been justifiable criticism of the Jets drafts.
2. The GM is ultimately responsible for those drafts.
3. The GMs hired by Woody were Bradway, Tannenbaum, Idzik, and now Mac.
4. Woody hired all of these GMs.
 
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I have always read every NY newspaper. In addition, I was a subscriber to Pro Football Weekly, Sports Illustrated, and The Sporting News. It was widely reported at that time, by both beat writers and the "insiders" in the NFL (the Adam Schefter and Chris Mortenson types of that era. Actually, I think that Mort was one of the writers who reported on this.) that there were 3 main reasons for Belichick leaving. In no particular order, they were:

1. He wanted to get out of Parcells' shadow and be his own man.
2. He felt uncertainty about Woody and Dolan. If I remember correctly, this whole thing came down around the time of the transition from Hess. Woody and Dolan were the final 2 candidates to buy the team.. Since this isn't a trial, I'm not going to look up the exact dates. I do recall that there were reports that Belichick was not comfortable with either one.. I don't know the specifics as to why.
3. Belichick had a good relationship with Kraft.

Of course, if someone is pre-disposed not to believe anything that contradicts one's own opinions, I guess that the multiple reports that I read will be dismissed by The Defenders Of Woody as "fake news," or "gibberish." You want *proof?* That is literally impossible to come by, as only Belichick knows what was going through his mind at the time. But there were multiple reports at the time from sources close to the evil genius. Not positive, but I believe that Parcells has said pretty much the same points as I listed.

Just curious. What is your opinion of Woody as an owner?

For those of you who like Woody as an owner, here ARE some FACTS:

1. There has been justifiable criticism of the Jets drafts.
2. The GM is ultimately responsible for those drafts.
3. The GMs hired by Woody were Bradway, Tannenbaum, Idzik, and now Mac.
4. Woody hired all of these GMs.

So what is it exactly that you're telling us, Namath? You're the one that made so many accusations against Woody trying to make me look like a fool (and failing I might add) in the process?

You do realize that every single one of those 3 reasons you gave for Bellichick leaving have NOTHING to do with Woody?

As for your bottom 4 facts, no one is debating that he's made bad hiring decisions? In fact, I've been stating that all along. So once please elaborate. What is it you think you're telling me?

My OPINION is as follows:

Woody is a very good owner that unfortunately has been saddled with poor hiring decisions. Truth be told, I'll bet Woody thinks about firing Mc and Toilet on a daily basis? But he doesn't because he knows he already bought into these losers and he MUST follow through with this. He must give them a chance to turn this thing around? Or else he'll look like a worse owner than Dan Snyder. And I'm sure a part of him is pretty sick and tired of going through the hiring/firing process? He is hoping with all of his mite that this thing works out.
 

Namath12

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Um, #2 is 50% about Woody and 50% about Dolan. By the way, Dolan in my opinion is far worse than Woody. By all accounts (Yes, I form my opinions partially based on corroborated reports of the major football columnists), Woody is a nice man personally. Dolan, on the other hand, insists that MSG workers not make eye contact with him.

Back to Woody, my most important point, and major disagreement with you about him, concerns his hiring. Who has "saddled" him with his hiring decisions? No one had a gun to his head. He made the decisions. Please note that both Tannenbaum and Idzik were more salary cap experts, rather than personnel men. I cannot imagine that you were happy with either hire when they were made. Am I correct? As for Mac, about whom the jury is still out, I was glad that Woody hired Wolfe and Casserly as consultants. Why? Again there were multiple reports in all of the NY newspapers that Woody was not plugged in to the league in terms of knowing who were highly regarded candidates. However, the ultimate choice was made by Woody.
You are an intelligent person. You probably know that President Truman said, "The buck stops here." The same is true of Woody. I don't understand how you can denigrate Bowles, Mac, and previous drafts while giving a pass to the man who hired all of the people whom you so regularly bash.

In my opinion, the worst hire was Idzik. He was historically inept. Plus, he did sabotage Rex. However, who set up the situation where Idzik had to accept Rec as coach in order to get the GM job? Do you honestly feel that this was a good way to hire a GM? What kind of candidates was Woody going to get when there was this pre-condition present? This is what I'm getting at: Woody's hiring practices have set the Jets up to fail.
 
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Um, #2 is 50% about Woody and 50% about Dolan. By the way, Dolan in my opinion is far worse than Woody. By all accounts (Yes, I form my opinions partially based on corroborated reports of the major football columnists), Woody is a nice man personally. Dolan, on the other hand, insists that MSG workers not make eye contact with him.

Back to Woody, my most important point, and major disagreement with you about him, concerns his hiring. Who has "saddled" him with his hiring decisions? No one had a gun to his head. He made the decisions. Please note that both Tannenbaum and Idzik were more salary cap experts, rather than personnel men. I cannot imagine that you were happy with either hire when they were made. Am I correct? As for Mac, about whom the jury is still out, I was glad that Woody hired Wolfe and Casserly as consultants. Why? Again there were multiple reports in all of the NY newspapers that Woody was not plugged in to the league in terms of knowing who were highly regarded candidates. However, the ultimate choice was made by Woody.
You are an intelligent person. You probably know that President Truman said, "The buck stops here." The same is true of Woody. I don't understand how you can denigrate Bowles, Mac, and previous drafts while giving a pass to the man who hired all of the people whom you so regularly bash.

In my opinion, the worst hire was Idzik. He was historically inept. Plus, he did sabotage Rex. However, who set up the situation where Idzik had to accept Rec as coach in order to get the GM job? Do you honestly feel that this was a good way to hire a GM? What kind of candidates was Woody going to get when there was this pre-condition present? This is what I'm getting at: Woody's hiring practices have set the Jets up to fail.

Are you going to continue to beat a dead horse? I already said he made bad hiring choices. They were 100% his own doing.

But once again, you're not talking so much about outlandish claims that you have no evidence to present to support? EVERYTHING you posted originally is nonsense. It's only what you want so badly to believe?

ANY of us could have made those poor hiring choices that Woody made? For crying out loud, he relied on established, experienced NFL professionals to aid him in making his choice? He pulled out all of the stops in an effort to once and for all do things the right way and finally get the right people in town.

It did NOT work. These guys that were so well thought of, have turned out to be idiots.

But other than that? Woody has done NOTHING wrong as our owner..........
 

Namath12

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Glad to see that you now realize that the bad hiring choices were 100& his own doing. In an earlier post, post you stated that he has been "saddled" with poor hiring decisions. There's a big difference. And it is these hiring decisions that are 95% of the reason why I'm down on Woody.

As for other aspects of the "dead horse," I will close with these serious questions to you and anyone else. Do you think it was a good idea for this owner to attend the private workout of Mark Sanchez or any other prospect? I'm not talking about an interview when there might be questions about a player's character. I ask because there were numerous articles by the beat writers stating that both Rex AND Woody were "taken" by Sanchez's *personality.* I remember thinking at the time that this was odd.

One last thing: Would you prefer that the Jets share a stadium with the Giants or that we had our own stadium? I know that there were huge financial considerations. That's not what I'm asking.
 

butterscotch

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Look guys lets keep this calm. Why get hot over this as it is not worth it. I happen to agree with MR. Namath here but lets keep the insults down. This should be fun like watching the Jets:global (37):
 

soj

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I have always read every NY newspaper. In addition, I was a subscriber to Pro Football Weekly, Sports Illustrated, and The Sporting News. It was widely reported at that time, by both beat writers and the "insiders" in the NFL (the Adam Schefter and Chris Mortenson types of that era. Actually, I think that Mort was one of the writers who reported on this.) that there were 3 main reasons for Belichick leaving. In no particular order, they were:

1. He wanted to get out of Parcells' shadow and be his own man.
2. He felt uncertainty about Woody and Dolan. If I remember correctly, this whole thing came down around the time of the transition from Hess. Woody and Dolan were the final 2 candidates to buy the team.. Since this isn't a trial, I'm not going to look up the exact dates. I do recall that there were reports that Belichick was not comfortable with either one.. I don't know the specifics as to why.
3. Belichick had a good relationship with Kraft.

Of course, if someone is pre-disposed not to believe anything that contradicts one's own opinions, I guess that the multiple reports that I read will be dismissed by The Defenders Of Woody as "fake news," or "gibberish." You want *proof?* That is literally impossible to come by, as only Belichick knows what was going through his mind at the time. But there were multiple reports at the time from sources close to the evil genius. Not positive, but I believe that Parcells has said pretty much the same points as I listed.

Just curious. What is your opinion of Woody as an owner?

For those of you who like Woody as an owner, here ARE some FACTS:

1. There has been justifiable criticism of the Jets drafts.
2. The GM is ultimately responsible for those drafts.
3. The GMs hired by Woody were Bradway, Tannenbaum, Idzik, and now Mac.
4. Woody hired all of these GMs.

N,

I am not predisposed to defending Woody,. My comment was based on your comment and I asked for factual information. You're right no one knows why Bill resigned after a few hours but I do recall there being rumors about # 1 specifically. If memory servers me correctly his "concern" about ownership was somewhat justified since it seem chaotic at the time.... having said that all you need to do was provide the info and not make derogatory comments.


AS for the state of the franchise, I believe he is better the Hess by a long shot. I also believe he has "tried" and failed to hire competent staffs - except for Bill P. The prior two regimes devastated this team, poor drafts, poor decisions, etc. and I feel Mac has been better at trying to get this team's talent level upgraded and has to a certain extent but has some whiffs, i.e., maybe hack and lee, and he needs to address the OL.

That what I think.
 

Namath12

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soj,

I respect your reply. i agree with you about Hess. I still have hope for Mac, as he is a football man, not an accountant. I just hope he picks the right QB. This will be a franchise-changing draft, one way or the other.
 

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soj,

I respect your reply. i agree with you about Hess. I still have hope for Mac, as he is a football man, not an accountant. I just hope he picks the right QB. This will be a franchise-changing draft, one way or the other.

Yes but listening to Chris Johnson lately
" Coach Bowles will not be evaluated by wins and losses". Oh boy
" He's very excited for this season ". Give me a fuckin break
" hopes the fans buy in ". To what ?
" not tanking the season for a QB". Really?

Hes sounding an awful like Ughhhh
Steve Gutman
 
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