Allen. Mayfield. Then again I would pass on him for any guard.
6th pick too high for Guard from Notre Dame?
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Allen. Mayfield. Then again I would pass on him for any guard.
Just about all of them .
Rosen is the most ready to play but I have some reservations about desire and durability.
Darnold is very over rated , Has a high ceiling but is a major project. Can't read a defense pre snap, does not go through progressions , if primary Reciever is covered, panics and runs, has terrible foot work , a long awkward slow release.
Allen has accuracy issues. That for me is a deal breaker. I don't know how much is on him though. His Receivers never got any separation and the games I saw, they also had some crucial drops.
Mayfield has serious baggage. Besides the resisting arrest , the crotch grab, intentionally hitting an opposing player in the head as he was coming on to the field for warm ups. A player who was just returning from a 2 week head injury. Mayfield had also done that at Texas tech. Funny thing is those who want to trade up for him are crying for Anderson's head. Both have alot of growing up to do. That said ,
He can flat out play but is a complete douche.
The QBs I was hoping to land are not coming out. Stidham and Lock. Lock would have been available in the 3rd or 4th and I think he could very easily turned out the best in this class.
I'm looking forward to seeing Allen in the senior bowl with legit talent around him and on the opposing D. He could change my opinion if he can perform well.
Yeah, the Senior Bowl is a must watch for me and the two QBs you wanted are the same ones I wanted. Rudolph is also a possibility.
Lool lets be honest our best chance at a Qb is to get Tebow Married...then in 22 years we can draft his son.
When I run it through our computers it has to be CK
When I run it through our computers it has to be CK
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I saw a mock draft this weekend that had the Jets taking Nelson at 6. Tanny took Brick at 4. I still agree with that pick today......
If we take a QB he will be the guy who Elway and the Giants judged inadequate. So an alternative plan would be, take the guard, get a center and possibly a defensive player in Round 2. DON'T resign McCown, let Petty and Hack guide the ship next year. With any luck we will be drafting second (you'll never out-Brown the Browns). Rinse and repeat until the next Elway/Peyton is in the top two slots and we can offer them the keys to an offense with a solid offensive line.
Interesting thought, but unless Bates/Bowles are convinced that Petty or Hack can play competently at this level, I doubt the Jets will go into the season with them as the top two options. Remember, that Bates when questioned about Hack's inability to get on the field said something to the effect that this is the NFL and not the JV. Yikes. Having said that, I would love a combination of Nelson, Price and an Edge in our first 3 picks. Signing Cousins, Ansah and CB in FA will be key to that pipe dream.
Now we just have to find a girl who can throw and get her to Marry Tebow.....
I do too
There definitely is a thing called 'positional value' and I have to be honest, I don't love the idea of drafting a Guard in the TOP 10, particularly one spot away from the TOP 5. If we're staying put at 6, I would take the highest rated player on my board for the Jets:
1. Baker Mayfield
2. Josh Allen
3. Sam Darnold
4. Josh Rosen
5. Marcus Davenport
6. Saquon Barkley
Remember, this is not my TOP 6 value board for everyone, just for the Jets, and it definitely prioritizes a potential FQB
If all four QB's are gone, I'm taking Davenport. I think he's going to be an ELITE 3-4 Rush OLB at the next level.
If all the QB's and Davenport are gone, Barkley is the consensus "best player in the draft", same class as the elite young RB's like Elliott, Gurley and Fournette.
I know what you all are thinking, Chubb > Davenport, but only if we ran a 4-3.
In my view Chubb is a 4-3 DE, not sure if he's a good fit at 3-4 Rush OLB. Davenport actually played in a 3-4 in college and was predominantly a stand-up Rush OLB, so there's no guessing or hoping with him, and IMO he has a more explosive first step than Chubb.
Anyway, if we ran a 4-3 Chubb would have been #5 on my board for the Jets, but we run a base 3-4 and Bowles is not changing that for anything, he's already proven that, and he's taking over full control of the defense in 2018, so we're a base 3-4 team and FOR US the best edge rusher in the draft is probably Davenport.
As for why Davenport > Nelson? Positional Value. An elite edge rusher is more of an "impact player" than a guard. IMO its the second most important position in the NFL after QB. Its hard to win in this league without a FQB and an elite edge rusher.
Incidentally Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks both have Davenport going to the Bucs at #7 in their latest mock drafts, and Mayock raved about the kid too, called him a TOP 10 Pick, so in no way is he a reach for the Jets at 6.
1. Baker Mayfield
2. Josh Allen
3. Sam Darnold
4. Josh Rosen
5. Marcus Davenport
6. Saquon Barkley
Remember, this is not my TOP 6 value board for everyone, just for the Jets, and it definitely prioritizes a potential FQB
If all four QB's are gone, I'm taking Davenport. I think he's going to be an ELITE 3-4 Rush OLB at the next level.
If all the QB's and Davenport are gone, Barkley is the consensus "best player in the draft", same class as the elite young RB's like Elliott, Gurley and Fournette.
I know what you all are thinking, Chubb > Davenport, but only if we ran a 4-3.
In my view Chubb is a 4-3 DE, not sure if he's a good fit at 3-4 Rush OLB. Davenport actually played in a 3-4 in college and was predominantly a stand-up Rush OLB, so there's no guessing or hoping with him, and IMO he has a more explosive first step than Chubb.
Anyway, if we ran a 4-3 Chubb would have been #5 on my board for the Jets, but we run a base 3-4 and Bowles is not changing that for anything, he's already proven that, and he's taking over full control of the defense in 2018, so we're a base 3-4 team and FOR US the best edge rusher in the draft is probably Davenport.
As for why Davenport > Nelson? Positional Value. An elite edge rusher is more of an "impact player" than a guard. IMO its the second most important position in the NFL after QB. Its hard to win in this league without a FQB and an elite edge rusher.
Incidentally Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks both have Davenport going to the Bucs at #7 in their latest mock drafts, and Mayock raved about the kid too, called him a TOP 10 Pick, so in no way is he a reach for the Jets at 6.
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LOL Tony...that is the tough part..... But we do need a QB & cheaper beer costs at the stadium
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I haven't been to a game in years,.................so I pick QB. Beer is a lot cheaper here on the mountain. Can't wait to see what Tony says but I bet I can guess.
I want both but yes the QB first
If Mac doesn't sign one of the top FA vets and drafts a QB , were gonna need free tickets and an open bar to get anyone to watch next season.
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Okay, so you don't believe in taking a OG at 6th. You would want say an Edge Rusher like Vernon Gholston, or a WR like Lam Jones, RB Blair Thomas, DT like Robertson, CB like Wilson, and that great ILB we drafted the year before in Lee. Granted they were drafted with good intentions. You would pass on a OG who could turn out to be another Steve Hutchinson, or say a Center who may be another Mangold or a P Shane Lechler who always seemed to punt the ball inside the opposing teams 20 yard line. We have drafted the BPA in the last 3 drafts. Williams #6. A good player, but not an outstanding player. Same with Adams and lets not forget Lee. This is why, we are not in the playoffs year in and year out, Why, because we are the "SAME OLD JETS!!!" I don't question you on taking Barkley or Davenport. I just don't think that you should disqualify Nelson because he is a OG an elite OG. I respect your opinion as I have mine. That's what makes us Jets fans!
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[h=3]Run Blocking[/h]
Most tackles in college don't have the knee flexibility to play tackle at this level, that is why the majority kick inside to play guard and sometimes make the move to center (ie; Wesley Johnson)... Every once in a blue moon, there comes a prospect that is above the rest and is so fluid in his technique and aggressiveness that he has that unique ability to go from guard to tackle... Now there have been a few but the move has been guard to right tackle... Here in this case, Quenton Nelson has the footwork, the physical tools and the athleticism to possibly kick out and move to left tackle, and if this is the case and we do draft him we could be set up for another decade or more at the blind side position... This is one and the main reason I think he has to be considered for us at the 6th pick...
D'Brickashaw Ferguson was special, but this kid could surpass that greatness ten fold... Ferguson was good at run blocking, but Nelson wow this kid is nasty good...
[h=3]Pass Blocking[/h]
Most tackles in college don't have the knee flexibility to play tackle at this level, that is why the majority kick inside to play guard and sometimes make the move to center (ie; Wesley Johnson)... Every once in a blue moon, there comes a prospect that is above the rest and is so fluid in his technique and aggressiveness that he has that unique ability to go from guard to tackle... Now there have been a few but the move has been guard to right tackle... Here in this case, Quenton Nelson has the footwork, the physical tools and the athleticism to possibly kick out and move to left tackle, and if this is the case and we do draft him we could be set up for another decade or more at the blind side position... This is one and the main reason I think he has to be considered for us at the 6th pick...
D'Brickashaw Ferguson was special, but this kid could surpass that greatness ten fold... Ferguson was good at run blocking, but Nelson wow this kid is nasty good...
Good Counterpoint. :global (42):
