McShay: 2015 NFL Mock Draft 2.0

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1Jameis WinstonTampa Bay Buccaneers (2-14)COLLEGE: Florida StateClass: SophHT: 6-4WT: 235POS: QB
Analysis: The Bucs don't currently have a franchise quarterback on their roster, and while both of the top two QB prospects in this year's class carry with them significant risks (along with considerable talent and upside), it could be tough for them to pass on both. If you factor in only on-field performance, Winston should be the No. 1 choice. He beats opponents from the pocket with very good accuracy, arm strength and anticipation, and his on-field intangibles and leadership are positives as well. The concerns with Winston obviously have to do with his off-field behavior, and any team that drafts him is going to have to trust him enough from a character and psychological standpoint to make him the face of its franchise. That's a big risk, but NFL teams know that they can't win consistently without good quarterback play. And the Bucs could decide that Marcus Mariota's need to transition from Oregon's up-tempo spread offense to the NFL represents an even greater risk -- albeit in a very different way. Video highlights Video

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2Leonard WilliamsTennessee Titans (2-14)COLLEGE: USCClass: JrHT: 6-5WT: 290POS: DE
Analysis: Williams is the complete package -- he can two-gap as a run-stuffer, but he can also penetrate and make plays against both the pass and the run. He'd make Jurrell Casey even better by drawing more double-teams and allowing Casey to do what he does best: use quickness to establish positioning, and disrupt. Having two studs in Williams and Casey on the defensive front would provide a boost for a team that ranked 31st in the league in rushing yards per game allowed last season. The Titans have a huge need at QB and would have to consider Marcus Mariota here, but he's a risk despite his big-time upside because of his lack of experience at consistently throwing with anticipation and accuracy from the pocket at Oregon. Video highlights Video

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3Randy GregoryJacksonville Jaguars (3-13)COLLEGE: NebraskaClass: JrHT: 6-6WT: 245POS: DE
Analysis: The Jags' biggest need is at right tackle, and they are looking for competition along their entire offensive line, but there isn't an offensive tackle in this class worth drafting at No. 3 overall. Gregory is a good fit, however. They need a young pass-rusher (Chris Clemons is 33), and Gregory is one of the most explosive edge rushers in this class. He needs to continue to add bulk and strength to his lean frame, but he has the length, violent hands and closing burst to get home off the edge. Video highlights Video

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4Amari CooperOakland Raiders (3-13)COLLEGE: AlabamaClass: JrHT: 6-1WT: 205POS: WR
Analysis: The Raiders have to provide second-year QB Derek Carr with more weapons. (James Jones is the top receiver on Oakland's roster right now.) Cooper, West Virginia's Kevin White and Louisville's Devante Parker are the best WR prospects in this class and the only ones who legitimately belong in the top-20 discussion, and Cooper is our favorite of the bunch. He was absolutely dominant in 2014 despite facing top defensive competition in the SEC and dealing with inconsistent play from Bama QB Blake Sims. He has excellent savvy as a route runner, good acceleration vertically and he does a terrific job of pulling down 50-50 balls. Video highlights Video

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5Shane RayWashington Redskins (4-12)COLLEGE: MissouriClass: JrHT: 6-2WT: 240POS: DE
Analysis: The Redskins need a pass-rusher -- often-injured ROLB Brian Orakpo is a free agent and not expected to return -- and Ray is a terror off the edge. He is relentless at pressuring the quarterback, combining outstanding first-step quickness, effective hands and impressive redirect skills. He also continues to get stronger versus the run and has bulked up into the 250-pound range. He was incredibly productive at Mizzou, finishing fifth in the FBS with 13 sacks last season. This is another spot where Mariota could come under consideration, but I've got Washington addressing its defense here. Video highlights Video

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6Marcus MariotaNew York Jets (4-12)COLLEGE: OregonClass: JrHT: 6-4WT: 211POS: QB
Analysis: Mariota could slide even further than this on draft day, but I think this pick makes sense for the Jets given their need at QB and the presence of Chan Gailey at offensive coordinator. Gailey can adapt his scheme to any QB and has a history with spread-formation offenses, so he's capable of providing Mariota with a smooth transition to the NFL from his up-tempo spread system at Oregon. Mariota has rare athleticism for the QB position (including prototypical size) and outstanding intangibles, but his one area of concern -- consistently being able to win from the pocket -- is the most important trait you need to succeed at the NFL level. So how a team caters its approach to him and develops him as an accurate passer from the pocket will be critical. Video highlights Video

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7Danny SheltonChicago Bears (5-11)COLLEGE: WashingtonClass: SrHT: 6-5WT: 332POS: DT
Analysis: It's unclear what scheme new head coach John Fox and new defensive coordinator Vic Fangio plan to run in Chicago -- my guess is they'll use something of a hybrid front -- but if they plan to play any 3-4, they'll need some capable bodies. Lamarr Houston and Will Sutton are best at penetrating and disrupting, and their strongest point-of-attack D-lineman, Stephen Paea, is a free agent. Shelton would provide a versatile, big body along the interior, as he commands double-teams against the run and can push the pocket as a pass-rusher. Arik Armstead is another option here, and the Bears also need help at safety and linebacker. But what will they do at the QB position? Video highlights Video

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8Arik ArmsteadAtlanta Falcons (6-10)COLLEGE: OregonClass: JrHT: 6-7WT: 285POS: DE
Analysis: The Falcons need to improve on defense, especially with their pass rush. D-linemen Kroy Biermann and Osi Umenyiora are both free agents. Armstead was a 5-technique defensive end at Oregon and could play a similar role in the NFL, but he's also explosive enough to be a great fit as a left defensive end in new Atlanta head coach Dan Quinn's scheme -- similar to the role that Michael Bennett played for Quinn with the Seahawks. I've really liked what I've seen from Armstead's tape; he's an excellent run defender who has a lot of upside as a pass-rusher because of his violent hands and ability to convert speed to power.

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9Brandon ScherffNew York Giants (6-10)COLLEGE: IowaClass: SrHT: 6-4WT: 320POS: OT
Analysis: I think this pick would depend upon whether the Giants retain Jason Pierre-Paul in free agency. If they don't, then pass-rusher becomes a top need and a guy like Florida DE Dante Fowler Jr. might be under consideration. But if JPP stays, I think the smart play here is to continue to solidify the offensive line. Left tackle Will Beatty played better in OC Ben McAdoo's system and 2014 second-rounder Weston Richburg should take over for JD Walton at center, leaving Scherff to start at either guard spot or possibly beat out Justin Pugh for the right tackle job. He is perfectly wired to be a New York Giants offensive lineman. He's durable, tough, strong and nasty. The Giants also have needs at linebacker, safety and possibly D-tackle if Mike Patterson leaves in free agency. Video highlights Video

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10Kevin WhiteSt. Louis Rams (6-10)COLLEGE: West VirginiaClass: SrHT: 6-2WT: 211POS: WR
Analysis: The Rams' biggest need is at QB, but there's no way for them to address that position in this scenario. (Remember, we don't project trades in these mock drafts, and there's a big drop-off in this year's QB class after Winston and Mariota.) The next-biggest need is O-line, but the only prospect worth drafting this high is Stanford's Andrus Peat, and he's a pure left tackle who doesn't fit the Rams' physical approach all that well. So, wide receiver makes the most sense here, and White is a complete player with good size and outstanding ball skills. He'd immediately upgrade a group that features several question marks and no No. 1 receiver. Video highlights Video
 

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11Devante ParkerMinnesota Vikings (7-9)COLLEGE: LouisvilleClass: SrHT: 6-2WT: 207POS: WR
Analysis: The Vikings need help on the offensive line, but Parker would make a lot of sense here. They need to surround second-year QB Teddy Bridgewater with more weapons, and Parker was Bridgewater's top target at Louisville. Parker would become Minnesota's tallest receiver at 6-foot-2 1/2, and he displays very good body control and competitiveness when the ball is in the air to go along with his size. He had a very productive season in 2014 after returning from injury (855 receiving yards in just seven games, 19.9 yards per catch). Video highlights Video

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12T.J. ClemmingsCleveland Browns (7-9)COLLEGE: PittsburghClass: SrHT: 6-4WT: 313POS: OT
Analysis: This would be a tough scenario for the Browns. Their biggest needs are probably right tackle, wide receiver and nose tackle, but the top prospects at each of those positions are already off the board. Johnny Manziel's future with the team is uncertain, but there aren't any QBs worth drafting here, either, and Cleveland will instead likely need to add a veteran in free agency (Mike Glennon, perhaps?) if Brian Hoyer goes to another team. Clemmings is a reach here, but he makes sense because of the importance of the position and his high potential. He's a work in progress, having played only two years of offensive tackle at Pitt, but he has impressive physical tools and is getting better. He excels as a run blocker and would bring strength and toughness to a unit that badly needs it. He'd struggle early in pass protection, but has the potential to improve. Video highlights Video

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13Dante Fowler Jr.New Orleans Saints (7-9)COLLEGE: FloridaClass: JrHT: 6-2WT: 271POS: DE
Analysis: The Saints could consider Stanford left tackle Andrus Peat here and then move Terron Armstead inside, or they could fill their need at cornerback by drafting either of the top two prospects at the position, Washington's Marcus Peters or Michigan State's Trae Waynes. But Fowler has the versatility and relentlessness that Rob Ryan is looking for. He isn't an elite athlete but has good flexibility, violent hands and efficient counter moves as a pass-rusher, and he has experience playing multiple spots among the D-line, as well as outside linebacker in a 3-4 alignment. Video highlights Video

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14Trae WaynesMiami Dolphins (8-8)COLLEGE: Michigan StateClass: JrHT: 6-1WT: 182POS: CB
Analysis: Two of Miami's top needs are inside linebacker and wide receiver, but it's too early to take an ILB here and all three of the WRs worth drafting at No. 14 overall are already off the board in this scenario. Cornerback is another need area, and while Marcus Peters has better tape, he brings with him some baggage after being kicked off of the Washington team last season. The Dolphins aren't in the business of taking chances on character risks right now, so Waynes might make more sense. He's a playmaker with very good ball skills and has the length and athleticism to hold up as a cover corner, and he shows good recognition skills and can help in run support. His biggest weakness is technique, but that's coachable.

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15Devin SmithSan Francisco 49ers (8-8)COLLEGE: Ohio StateClass: SrHT: 6-5WT: 199POS: WR
Analysis: This is early for Smith -- he's our No. 26 overall player -- but the Niners need a receiver who can stretch the field vertically and nobody in college football did that better during the second half of the season than Smith (especially when big-armed Cardale Jones was throwing him the ball). He has excellent speed, subtle moves as a deep route runner that allow him to create separation, and his body control when tracking the deep ball is outstanding. San Francisco could also look to address its O-line or defensive front in the first round.

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16Andrus PeatHouston Texans (9-7)COLLEGE: StanfordClass: JrHT: 6-6WT: 315POS: OT
Analysis: The Texans need a quarterback, but aren't going to find one here. Pass catchers Devin Funchess (Michigan) or Jaelen Strong (Arizona State) would be options, although both are slight reaches this early. So I'll have them take Peat, who fills a need and is a steal at this point in the draft. The more I watch him on tape, the more I appreciate how quick his feet are. He's also tall, has long arms and good awareness, and possesses good power as a blocker. He needs to improve his consistency as a finisher, but he's young and should continue to get better. Video highlights Video

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17Eddie GoldmanSan Diego Chargers (9-7)COLLEGE: Florida StateClass: JrHT: 6-3WT: 315POS: DT
Analysis: Sean Lissemore isn't working out at nose tackle for the Chargers, and 2014 fifth-rounder Ryan Carrethers played in only six games. Goldman would not only provide an immediate upgrade at nose, but he's versatile enough to play defensive end in a 3-4 scheme as well. Goldman's specialty is stopping the run, with excellent strength and size (6-3, 314 pounds). Video highlights Video

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18Dorial Green-BeckhamKansas City Chiefs (9-7)COLLEGE: OklahomaClass: JrHT: 6-4WT: 225POS: WR
Analysis: The Chiefs are in serious need of an upgrade at wide receiver, and Michigan's Devin Funchess and Arizona State's Jaelen Strong are both options here. However, Green-Beckham is an intriguing possibility with this pick. The Chiefs would be taking a chance on him, given his behavioral baggage and the fact that he sat out the 2014 college football season, but based on the tape I've studied so far, Green-Beckham might be the most naturally gifted pass-catcher in this class. If Kansas City doesn't want to take a receiver here, Miami OT Ereck Flowers would make some sense.

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19Devin FunchessCleveland Browns (7-9)COLLEGE: MichiganClass: JrHT: 6-4WT: 235POS: WR
Analysis: I gave the Browns an offensive tackle with the No. 12 pick in T.J. Clemmings, and there still isn't a QB worth drafting here at No. 19 (the pick they acquired from the Bills last May in Buffalo's trade up to draft Sammy Watkins), so I'm going with a potential difference-maker at WR in Funchess. I liked his passion for the game at times, but questioned it at other times. He was dealing with a miserable QB situation at Michigan, but teams will need to dig deeper into his football character. If there are no concerns there, he's a top-25 football player in this class. He's a hybrid TE/WR who fits best as an X wide receiver in the NFL, in my opinion. His frame and body control make him tough to cover even when defenders are in position. Video highlights Video

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20Landon CollinsPhiladelphia Eagles (10-6)COLLEGE: AlabamaClass: JrHT: 6-0WT: 212POS: S
Analysis: The question everyone will ask is whether Chip Kelly will be willing to trade up to draft his former QB at Oregon, Marcus Mariota, particularly if Mariota starts to slide down the board a little bit. I know from talking with Kelly previously that he thinks the world of Mariota, but I have no idea how much he's willing to give up in order to go get him. If the Eagles stay put, Collins would be a good value pick here. He's the No. 15 overall prospect on our board, has good range in coverage and is a playmaker when the ball is in the air. But where he excels most is in run support, which is a good fit in the NFC East, especially versus the Cowboys. Moreover, SS Nate Allen is a free agent. Other options include Washington CB Marcus Peters and OLB Vic Beasley. Video highlights Video
 

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21Vic BeasleyCincinnati Bengals (10-5-1)COLLEGE: ClemsonClass: SrHT: 6-2WT: 220POS: DE
Analysis: Beasley is an undersized edge player with really good burst, bend and instincts. He was very productive at Clemson, racking up 44.5 tackles for loss and 25 sacks the past two seasons. He's a great fit for the Bengals' defense as a 4-3 outside linebacker, and he will help upgrade a pass rush that ranked 27th in the NFL last season in sacks per attempt. Video highlights Video

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22Marcus PetersPittsburgh Steelers (11-5)COLLEGE: WashingtonClass: JrHT: 5-11WT: 193POS: CB
Analysis: Safety and cornerback are need areas for the Steelers this offseason, and linebacker could also quickly become a problem spot, with James Harrison, Jason Worilds and Arthur Moats all free agents. Based purely off of game tape, Peters is the best all-around cornerback in this class. He has a good combination of instincts, cover skills, toughness and ball skills (11 interceptions the past three seasons). But Pittsburgh will have to feel comfortable with his character before drafting him, as he was kicked off of Washington's football team this fall due to behavioral issues.

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23Malcom BrownDetroit Lions (11-5)COLLEGE: TexasClass: SrHT: 6-3WT: 317POS: DT
Analysis: The Lions could go with a cornerback or offensive tackle here, but defensive tackle is a position of need even if Ndamukong Suh does return in 2015 (C.J. Mosley, Andre Fluellen and Nick Fairley are all free agents), and it's a gaping hole if he goes somewhere else in free agency. Brown is a versatile D-lineman who has experience playing NT, DT and DE in a 4-3 defense, and NT and 5-technique in a 3-4. He's strong versus the run and showed more as a pass-rusher during his final season in Austin under head coach Charlie Strong. Video highlights Video

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24Denzel PerrymanArizona Cardinals (11-5)COLLEGE: Miami (FL)Class: SrHT: 6-5WT: 248POS: ILB
Analysis: This might be a little early to take an inside linebacker in some people's minds, but there aren't many better football players than Perryman left on the board, and the Cardinals are likely to address the position early. Perryman has strong recognition skills, he's stout and savvy at the point of attack and he hits like a truck. A lot of other evaluators like Mississippi State's Benardrick McKinney more because of his freakish size-speed combo, but I'll take the better football player in Perryman. Other positions Arizona could look to address this offseason: pass-rusher, D-line, QB depth and RB depth.

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25Ereck FlowersCarolina Panthers (7-8-1)COLLEGE: Miami (FL)Class: JrHT: 6-6WT: 325POS: OT
Analysis: Flowers has a really good combination of size (6-6, 325 pounds), strength, agility and toughness, possesses great football character and has played both right tackle and left tackle for the Hurricanes the past two seasons. He needs to get better with his hand placement and pad level, but his weaknesses that show up on tape are all correctable. He's a guy who has improved throughout his career and has the upside to continue to do so. Video highlights Video

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26Jalen CollinsBaltimore Ravens (10-6)COLLEGE: LSUHT: 6-0WT: 193POS: CB
Analysis: The Ravens could look to draft a wide receiver here, with Steve Smith Sr. in the latter stages of his career and Torrey Smith a free agent this offseason. Arizona State's Jaelen Strong is a big target who would be an asset for Joe Flacco. But I think upgrading the secondary is a bigger priority for the Ravens. Collins is still developing, but he has the length and speed to become a good starting cornerback in the NFL.

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27Melvin GordonDallas Cowboys (12-4)COLLEGE: WisconsinClass: JrHT: 6-0WT: 207POS: RB
Analysis: Re-signing both WR Dez Bryant and RB DeMarco Murray is going to be awfully difficult for Dallas this offseason, and if the Cowboys need to let one go, it's likelier to be the running back turning 27 years old who has an injury history. Murray has been great, but it's easier to find effective running backs (especially behind Dallas' offensive line) than it is to find elite receivers like Bryant. Gordon's running style is very similar to Murray's; he runs hard, is a work horse, gets from 0 to 60 in a flash and shows great vision and patience as a runner. He isn't great in pass protection or as a receiver, but he's getting better. The other positions Dallas needs to address this offseason are cornerback, D-line, tight end and receiver (depending upon how Bryant's situation works out). Video highlights Video

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28La'El CollinsDenver Broncos (12-4)COLLEGE: LSUClass: SrHT: 6-4WT: 324POS: OT
Analysis: This pick will largely be determined by how free agency goes for the Broncos. WRs Demaryius Thomas and Wes Welker are free agents, as are TEs Julius Thomas, Virgil Green and Jacob Tamme -- so a pass-catcher is a definite possibility here. The Broncos might also look to fill needs at nose tackle and/or middle linebacker if free agents Terrance Knighton and/or Nate Irving depart. But I think that interior offensive line is an area they need to address at some point in the draft, and Collins would be a good value here at guard. He got a bit upright in pass protection when playing tackle for LSU, but he's a really strong run-blocker with good football character and intelligence and durability.

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29Eli HaroldIndianapolis Colts (11-5)COLLEGE: VirginiaClass: JrHT: 6-3WT: 235POS: OLB
Analysis: Admittedly, this is a bit early for Harold to come off the board. We have a second-round grade on him, but he is a good fit for the Colts' defense as a 3-4 outside linebacker and he offers good upside as a pass-rusher. He's raw but has the length, flexibility and closing burst to develop into a good all-around player, and he was productive at Virginia (15.5 sacks, four forced fumbles and two interceptions his last two years at Virginia). He'd help the Colts get more pressure on opposing quarterbacks -- something they need -- and would benefit from playing alongside veteran Robert Mathis.

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30Maxx WilliamsGreen Bay Packers (12-4)COLLEGE: MinnesotaClass: SophHT: 6-4WT: 250POS: TE
Analysis: The Packers need youth and athleticism at inside linebacker, so Mississippi State's Benardrick McKinney is a possibility. But the team could also afford an upgrade at tight end, and Williams is the most complete TE in what is shaping up to be a very shallow class. He has a very good combination of size (6-4, 250 pounds) and speed, and it's expected that he'll test really well at the combine later this month. He'd provide Aaron Rodgers with another weapon in the passing game, which could become increasingly important if Randall Cobb leaves in free agency.

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31Todd GurleySeattle Seahawks (12-4)COLLEGE: GeorgiaClass: JrHT: 6-0WT: 230POS: RB
Analysis: It's been rumored recently that the Seahawks could sign Marshawn Lynch to a long-term deal this offseason (he's entering the final year of his contract), but I'll believe that when I see it. If Lynch isn't with Seattle beyond the 2015 season, Gurley is a perfect replacement. He was a top-15 talent in this class prior to tearing his ACL this season, a powerful downhill runner who also has excellent speed -- the best NFL comparison I can come up with for Gurley is Lynch. The Seahawks would have to be comfortable with his health situation, but he could be an ideal successor to Lynch. They could also look to address offensive or defensive line here.

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32Carl DavisNew England Patriots (12-4)COLLEGE: IowaClass: SrHT: 6-5WT: 318POS: DT
Analysis: Davis' motor ran hot and cold during his Iowa career, but at 6-4, 318 pounds he has a quick get-off, violent hands and the ability to quickly redirect once he has penetrated the backfield. He was a standout at the Senior Bowl in January, proving to be one of the toughest players for offensive linemen to block one-on-one. Arizona State WR Jaelen Strong could also make sense here, as would Georgia RB Todd Gurley if he's still on the board.
 

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I see this made its way here.

If the draft plays out like this I think we have to take a shot at Mariota. I do have my concerns about him but it is hard to argue with his size, arm strength and legs. Unless blown away in a trade I would pull the trigger on him but in no way do I trade up for him.
 

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I hate having separate places to talk draft vs NFL...no one will ever come here and read these posts...hate to lose quality draft discussions...:(
 

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Man, this board is so frustrating...free agent thread closed too. Kind of sucks here.

Free agent thread wasn't closed. It was merged into a "all NFL offseason thread"

MV, Renegade and I are aware that it's frustrating for you to go back and forth on boards. We like it organized into diff boards but it may not be plausible in the offseason since a lot of true content revolves around the draft. We'll come up with a solution. This board is young and a work in progress. In addition, we can't please everyone but we will sure try. Keep your suggestions coming!

We were supposed to have a call today with MV but he had a last minute biz trip to go on.
 

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I wouldn't move up for Mariotta, but if we don't sign a meaningful veteran qb we need him. I can't take another year of geno throwing int's like it's Mardi Gras
 

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I wouldn't move up for Mariotta, but if we don't sign a meaningful veteran qb we need him. I can't take another year of geno throwing int's like it's Mardi Gras

Thing is that Geno will prob still start next year so we have those ints at least another year. I think Mariota may need to sit the whole season. I'm not a big NCAA follower but I watched the championship game and he did not look good. He needs to learn the pro system.
 

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Thing is that Geno will prob still start next year so we have those ints at least another year. I think Mariota may need to sit the whole season. I'm not a big NCAA follower but I watched the championship game and he did not look good. He needs to learn the pro system.
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Thing is that Geno will prob still start next year so we have those ints at least another year. I think Mariota may need to sit the whole season. I'm not a big NCAA follower but I watched the championship game and he did not look good. He needs to learn the pro system.
Don't agree Elias. Eagles don't play an NFL system and Foles and even Sanchez adapted to it

Geno couldn't master a system unless the play book had pictures and was written in crayon

Talented QBS like Mariota can play in any system

Untalented busts like Geno can't
 

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Free agent thread wasn't closed. It was merged into a "all NFL offseason thread"

MV, Renegade and I are aware that it's frustrating for you to go back and forth on boards. We like it organized into diff boards but it may not be plausible in the offseason since a lot of true content revolves around the draft. We'll come up with a solution. This board is young and a work in progress. In addition, we can't please everyone but we will sure try. Keep your suggestions coming!

We were supposed to have a call today with MV but he had a last minute biz trip to go on.

Where the hell are his priorities?
 

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If you think about it, Woody pulled the trigger and cleaned house,from the top
No way in hell does he or the the staff leave Geno on the ship or it'll be like the Titanic
They'll lose the fan base from game 1
 

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Don't agree Elias. Eagles don't play an NFL system and Foles and even Sanchez adapted to it

Geno couldn't master a system unless the play book had pictures and was written in crayon

Talented QBS like Mariota can play in any system

Untalented busts like Geno can't

How do you know Mariota is more talented than Geno? They played the same systems in college, in weak defensive divisions...

Geno SR year 71% comp 4200 yards 42 TDs 6 INTs
Geno Jr year 65% comp 4400 yards 31 TDs 7 INTs

Mariota JR year 68% 4500 yards 42 TDs 4 INTs
Mariota Soph year 64% 3650 yards 31 TDs and 4 INTs

Mariota has never read a defense and has no NFL footwork (i.e all the same warts Geno had coming out of college)...the only difference is Mariota runs more and faster than Geno.

I dont know how you look at mariota and know he can do any better at adjusting what he did in college to what they do in the NFL when he doesnt even know how to take a 3 step drop, let alone turn his head to progress through reads (which he has never done once at oregon)...I think its folly to assume Mariota is so much farther along than Geno was coming out...he's not. Almost everything Mariota has to do at QB in the NFL will be the first time he's done it...other than calling the play in the huddle and wearing a yellow jersey...Im sure they do that at oregon...
 
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What is folly is comparing a proven bust whose major college achievement was embarrassing himself and his team in the all important Pinstripe Bowl to the Heisman Trophy winner who took his team to the National Championship game.

Mariota has the potential to be a franchise NFL QB

Smith has the proven ability to be JaMarcus Russell
 

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What is folly is comparing a proven bust whose major college achievement was embarrassing himself and his team in the all important Pinstripe Bowl to the Heisman Trophy winner who took his team to the National Championship game.

Mariota has the potential to be a franchise NFL QB

Smith has the proven ability to be JaMarcus Russell

Like Jamarcus Russell? Really, he's been that bad? I know there are a lot of hateful emotions towards Geno, but Russell, really? Are you sure that isn't hate filled red glasses you're wearing?

It's as easy to say Drew Brees as Russell (the numbers are actually closer, draft position closer, and year 3 their team also gave up on them)...but funny you should compare the 2, because Russell only played 31 games as a professional while Geno has played 30 now, so this would be a good time to compare notes:

Geno through 30 games (2 seasons): 58% comp 5571 yards 25 TDs 34 INTs 7 lost fumbles 72 QBR

Russell through 31 games (3 seasons): 52% comp 4083 yards 18 TDs 23 INTs 22 lost fumbles 65 QBR

Brees through 28 games (3 seasons): 59% comp 5613 yards 29 TDs 31 INTs 8 fumbles lost 73 QBR
 
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Smith has been the worst or close to the worst starting QB in the NFL for both of his two miserable seasons.

Russell like...definitely, maybe worse

And while, normally rookie QBs improve in year 2, Smith actually significantly regressed.

I'll be respectful and not even comment on the comparison of Genomarcus with Drew Brees.
 
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