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The way you worded this post, you seemed to be defending revis in rebuttal to my comment that I'd prefer someone younger on a longer deal. I didn't suggest I'd never take revis, I said I preferred others ahead of him. I never said do nothing, nor have I seen any other members suggest staying put with our cb's is acceptable. With idzik gone, I am 100%confident we will have 2cb starters added through fa or draft.

I never said, we will never have a qb or suggest giving up. What I was saying is that we will have a temporary veteran stop gap this year, any drafted qb will need time to mature. You hope we draft a Brady type sleeper, but you don't plan on it. That means our qb play should improve each year, but that a 2-3 season timetable is realistic to be stable with a good young qb. Finding stability and youth at the qb position is the hardest thing in the nfl. And until you have it your team is floating in nfl mediocrity, while teams with Brady, manning, Wilson, luck, Rodgers, etc will be winning the Lombardi.

Revis is unique, and properly utilized to maximize his effect by bellicheck. He has lost a step due to injury, which still leaves him as an amazing player. Ne does not play him as a number 1, and certainly not as a lock down like he was in his prime. He's all over the field and switches up wr's. However, with bellicheck's schemes, he was brilliant this year.

I honestly think if Rex was here he would have a desire to return, but as it is I think we only get him if we offer the biggest deal. So, under the premise that we need 2 years to get our qb spot right, if we're lucky, why pay Revis 13+ per year, if he's going to be older and slower, right when we hope to making deeper playoff pushes. That money would be better spent on a wr or maxwell, Jackson, flowers type.
I said that fact originally, if you agree, then why did you reply disagreeing with the premise that maxwell,etc would be the smarter signing?

You can deal with your premises and conditions to sign certain players that you gauge to be second rate flying in the face of your contradictory statements and I'll stick with mine. Beyond that, I just don't really follow your post here as it seems to be twisted and riddle-like. Aaaahhh!!

We're not on the same wavelength here so I'm going to drop this discussion with you but thanks for the replies.
 

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You can deal with your premises and conditions to sign certain players that you gauge to be second rate flying in the face of your contradictory statements and I'll stick with mine. Beyond that, I just don't really follow your post here as it seems to be twisted and riddle-like. Aaaahhh!!

We're not on the same wavelength here so I'm going to drop this discussion with you but thanks for the replies.
How is it riddle like, it's a line item response to your statement.
I never said revis is second rate, I said he had a good year this past season. A season in which bellicheck often lined him up against the 2&3 receiver's.

You then said you would only take revis, if the other top corners were not available. That is similar to my original statement, where I said I prefer maxwell and Jackson types to be signed. Your original reply to me was arguing against taking maxwell over revis. So if you agree, then why did you reply arguing the opposite?

I believe you are confused.
 
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How is it riddle like, it's a line item response to your statement.
I never said revis is second rate, I said he had a good year this past season. A season in which bellicheck often lined him up against the 2&3 receiver's.

You then said you would only take revis, if the other top corners were not available. That is similar to my original statement, where I said I prefer maxwell and Jackson types to be signed. Your original reply to me was arguing against taking maxwell over revis. So if you agree, then why did you reply arguing the opposite?

I believe you are confused.

I don't need you to twist the version of what I said. I'll tell you what, why don't you show me where I said I'd select Maxwell over Revis. That's a lie. But I'll let you go ahead and find it. Go ahead, show me.

And while you're at it, please justify your statement that Revis is a #2 CB. And feel free to explain why the Super Bowl Patriots are in the midst of trying to resign him if he's "lost a step" as you eloquently put it. And also feel free to explain how he shut down Seattle's top WR limiting him to one catch for 8 yards. And beyond that, explain your contradictory statement that he will be too expensive for the Jets yet he's only a #2 CB. Here's your contradiction in full view:

Hate to tell you, revis is a number 2 corner. He's not what we're used to seeing, and I'm a huge fan of his.
He's not the only pro bowl caliber cb available.


Another mis-statement. You are now claiming you never said he's second rate? And the irony is you state he's a #2 yet he's a pro-bowler. And that's not confusing?! BTW, who was lined up vs Seattle's #1 WR and held him to one catch for 8 yards (on a pushoff)? And riddle me the team that's negotiating an extention to him 12M salary - none other than the Super Bowl champs. Second rate. Okay.

Bur first, show me where you found in my first or any post to you stating I would take Maxwell over Revis. You should be held accountable for lying.
 

NickSINYC

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I hope we all realize we are all just fans of the same team and whatever we post are only our opinions.
 
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I hope we all realize we are all just fans of the same team and whatever we post are only our opinions.

thnx Nick. I was going to post the same thing. Let's end this discussion guys, let's hope it doesn't get out of hand.
 
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...until he pulls this crap with you. For which I'd defend you, BTW. He's straight-up lying and I'd like to prevent this type of poster from continuing such nonsense. It has no place here.

This is an awesome site where posters respect other opinions. Let's keep it that way.
 
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...until he pulls this crap with you. For which I'd defend you, BTW. He's straight-up lying and I'd like to prevent this type of poster from continuing such nonsense. It has no place here.

This is an awesome site where posters respect other opinions. Let's keep it that way.

Thanks for the kind words on the site. This place has done a great job in fostering discussion about our favorite team without the nonsense so I'd like to keep it that way. I also do think that is what's happening here but you two are just agreeing to disagree! I don't see a winner here so I do appreciate that you tried to walk away. Since you've been here, the discussion has gotten more interesting so the admins appreciate that. We actually spoke about that yesterday in our private chat. LOL.

Having said that, I doubt he's lying. If anything he misinterpreted your post. Lying is a strong accusation. This is a forum, not a court case so he has no reason to lie but I do see how a mistake could be made, especially when we glimpse through everything quickly in this day and age.

In your first post you wrote that your first choices to fill our vacant first CB would be Maxwell and Jackson. Can that not be misconstrued that you prefer them over Revis? I think so....

Maybe I'm wrong here and I shouldn't have gotten involved but calling someone a liar is a strong accusation. I don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable.

Anyways, there's a problem with Spammers signing onto this board, trying to figure out a way to prevent that! So that's why I am signed into this account and not my own. Crazy stuff, in the last few days I have deleted over 100 accounts.

- Elias
 
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I think I may have put an end to the spammers, for now. Logging back into my account.
 
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Thanks for the kind words on the site. This place has done a great job in fostering discussion about our favorite team without the nonsense so I'd like to keep it that way. I also do think that is what's happening here but you two are just agreeing to disagree! I don't see a winner here so I do appreciate that you tried to walk away. Since you've been here, the discussion has gotten more interesting so the admins appreciate that. We actually spoke about that yesterday in our private chat. LOL.

Having said that, I doubt he's lying. If anything he misinterpreted your post. Lying is a strong accusation. This is a forum, not a court case so he has no reason to lie but I do see how a mistake could be made, especially when we glimpse through everything quickly in this day and age.

In your first post you wrote that your first choices to fill our vacant first CB would be Maxwell and Jackson. Can that not be misconstrued that you prefer them over Revis? I think so....

Maybe I'm wrong here and I shouldn't have gotten involved but calling someone a liar is a strong accusation. I don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable.

Anyways, there's a problem with Spammers signing onto this board, trying to figure out a way to prevent that! So that's why I am signed into this account and not my own. Crazy stuff, in the last few days I have deleted over 100 accounts.

- Elias

Well, he's claiming I said something that I didn't. I've asked him to clarify so let's see.
 
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