The Walking Dead "Them" Episode Discussion (Spoilers)

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SPOILER ALERT! If you haven't watched tonight's episode of The Walking Dead, don't read any further!

"Them" was a much more slow-paced and kind of depressing episode then we've seen in a long time. Most of the characters are still reeling from the loss of Beth and Tyresse but they are also trying to survive despite a lack of food and water and the rising Georgia temperatures. At one point, the group looks so depleted, they almost resemble the dead. I think this image was perfectly captured in Rick's "we are the walking dead" speech, which is one of his most famous lines from the comics.

I really liked the juxtaposition between Maggie and Sasha's grief. The former seemed like she had no more will to fight while the latter was so angry, all she wanted to do was fight. Their grief was perfectly entwined with the religious themes present within this episode. Father Gabriel tried his best to console Maggie but she stated she had given up faith.

This made me question the role faith has on this show. Does having faith help in situations like the zombie apocalypse or make things worse? I think the show does a good job at showing the benefits and pitfalls of having faith. Moral characters often die BUT when our group of survivors needed water -- it rained; when they needed food -- there were the dogs (which is an image I want to forever erase from my mind); and when they needed shelter -- there was the barn.

AND then there was Aaron, the newest cast member and "stranger danger" that our group encountered. I read the comics so I know who he is and let's just say that things are going to get worse before they get better.

Thoughts on "Them"?
 

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for the first time in five & a half seasons our "survivors" are losing the war of attrition.. this episode did a really good job of showing us that things simply have to get better or people are going to start cracking under the endless dispair..

maggie, sasha & daryl all were believable in how they were dealing with their grief.. rick & michonne did their parts well trying to hold things together..

all & all i enjoyed "them.." it made the "walker apocalypse" feel real to me.. oh & i know just enough about the comics to know rick was about to tell the group, "we are the walking dead.." i thought that was pretty powerful stuff..
 

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for the first time in five & a half seasons our "survivors" are losing the war of attrition.. this episode did a really good job of showing us that things simply have to get better or people are going to start cracking under the endless dispair..

maggie, sasha & daryl all were believable in how they were dealing with their grief.. rick & michonne did their parts well trying to hold things together..

all & all i enjoyed "them.." it made the "walker apocalypse" feel real to me.. oh & i know just enough about the comics to know rick was about to tell the group, "we are the walking dead.." i thought that was pretty powerful stuff..

I completely agree with you. For the first time, I felt like I was with them. I felt really depressed and I wanted to give up. A lot of people don't like episodes like these but I think these are the best ones for character development and it really is what the show is about.

What do you think about Aaron? "Stranger Danger?" or someone they can trust?
 

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I completely agree with you. For the first time, I felt like I was with them. I felt really depressed and I wanted to give up. A lot of people don't like episodes like these but I think these are the best ones for character development and it really is what the show is about.

What do you think about Aaron? "Stranger Danger?" or someone they can trust?
he reminded me of gareth.. he also was way to neat & clean to be someone's foot soldier.. yeah, i don't trust him at all.. but LOLz why should i at this point.. fear the living..
 

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he reminded me of gareth.. he also was way to neat & clean to be someone's foot soldier.. yeah, i don't trust him at all.. but LOLz why should i at this point.. fear the living..

I actually think he might be good. I mean, it would be bad writing if every new character they encounter was a cannibal or downright evil, right?
 

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I actually think he might be good. I mean, it would be bad writing if every new character they encounter was a cannibal or downright evil, right?
i suppose the law of averages says "someone" they meet going foward will be who they claim to be.. but i still not close to trusting gabriel, so...
 

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The Walking Dead "Them" Episode Discussion (Spoilers)

The Walking Dead "Them" Episode Discussion (Spoilers)

i suppose the law of averages says "someone" they meet going foward will be who they claim to be.. but i still not close to trusting gabriel, so...

Yea they need to reveal more of his backstory. For a man of the cloth he seems to be the most untrustworthy.

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jetgreen13

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Yea they need to reveal more of his backstory. For a man of the cloth he seems to be the most untrustworthy.

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completely agree.. BTW, i definitely liked "them" over "what happened & what's going on.."

you??
 

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completely agree.. BTW, i definitely liked "them" over "what happened & what's going on.."

you??

I liked both of them equally but for different reasons. I liked how they handled death in "what happened & what's going on" with the flashbacks and I like "them" for its depictions of grief and the struggle for survival


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I liked both of them equally but for different reasons. I liked how they handled death in "what happened & what's going on" with the flashbacks and I like "them" for its depictions of grief and the struggle for survival


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i felt "what happened & what's going on" was more interesting in theory then the finished product.. plus no way ty wouldn't have hullucinated about his deceased girlfriend karen..
 

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i felt "what happened & what's going on" was more interesting in theory then the finished product.. plus no way ty wouldn't have hullucinated about his deceased girlfriend karen..

Yea they should have included Karen in the flashbacks. That was a major fail. Karen was the main reason why Tyresse went down the path he did with Carol during the last season.


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Yea they should have included Karen in the flashbacks. That was a major fail. Karen was the main reason why Tyresse went down the path he did with Carol during the last season.


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epic fail..
 

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Aaron looks to be in pretty good shape(clean, healthy looking) compared to Rick and company. Anyone else think he's trying to set up the group? Also, what happened to Rick's friend(Morgan) that we saw at the church at the mid season finale?
 

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Aaron looks to be in pretty good shape(clean, healthy looking) compared to Rick and company. Anyone else think he's trying to set up the group? Also, what happened to Rick's friend(Morgan) that we saw at the church at the mid season finale?
mild spoiler alert..

i did find out aaron is in fact part of the comic book universe.. as far as the comics goes he's a scout for a large group/community.. i stopped there because i didn't want to learn to much about him.. not a fan of spoilers myself..

thanks for not letting on about aaron [MENTION=116]TeachDown[/MENTION].. we may need some kind of TV series/comic books system for the walking dead threads going foward..
 

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mild spoiler alert..

i did find out aaron is in fact part of the comic book universe.. as far as the comics goes he's a scout for a large group/community.. i stopped there because i didn't want to learn to much about him.. not a fan of spoilers myself..

thanks for not letting on about aaron @TeachDown.. we may need some kind of TV series/comic books system for the walking dead threads going foward..




Thanks for the info. I like to be surprised as well and haven't read the comics.
 

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I found that the writers of the show try to mix it up by not always following the comic books.

Having said that, I think Aaron won't stray that much from the comic book in my opinion because like I said in an earlier post it would be bad writing if they go the "stranger danger" route; we've been there, done that.

As for Morgan, I thought that maybe he was connected to Aaron but I'm starting to think that the writers are holding him back for something much bigger for the long run.

Needless to say, I can't wait for the next episode!


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jetgreen13

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I found that the writers of the show try to mix it up by not always following the comic books.

Having said that, I think Aaron won't stray that much from the comic book in my opinion because like I said in an earlier post it would be bad writing if they go the "stranger danger" route; we've been there, done that.

As for Morgan, I thought that maybe he was connected to Aaron but I'm starting to think that the writers are holding him back for something much bigger for the long run.

Needless to say, I can't wait for the next episode!


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i believe the introduction of aaron & all that comes with him should be a very interesting plot twist..

episode 11, "the distance.."
 
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this is a test of the spoiler system, this is only a test....

everybody dies

okay so the way it works is if you are starting a thread you will see a small button that looks like this...spoiler16.gif

hit that button and you will see this the word spoiler twice and it will be bracketed [like this] just type your spoiler in between the two bracketed spoilers and you will be all set. it will appear as a black block that you can read when you hover over it. I looked at a ton of others but all seemed kind of buggy while this one is simple and will work. try it

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