Rams give Bradford permission to seek a trade

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I think they'll be looking for a bit more than a 5th. I'd give more, providing we made a commitment to upgrade the pass protection he'll require to stay healthy. Not sure we have the ingredients: Brick has lost a step, we need a new LG (Orlando Franklin?), and a good blocking TE. Then we have to hope the right side can hold, and with a new guy at RG (Aboushi most likely, not fantastic) and Giacomini, who did not distinguish himself last year. If Harvin is worth a 4th, I'd say Bradford is easily worth that too, but only if we can keep him upright. He's like Namath in his last 4-5 years in terms of mobility.

One plan would be to spend the #6 on a OL that can start at guard and groom to replace Brick eventually, sign Charles Clay to replace Cumberland, and sign Franklin or Iupati to play LG. Then use the 2nd rounder on the best WR on the board, the 3rd on whatever LB prospect can help us, and the 4th on Bradford. It's investing big time in the offense, but our offense needs some big time investment, not to mention some serious competition and better depth along the line. You could even try trading Geno for a 4th/5th round pick, since there are so few QBs to go around. Someone might bite, given his friendly rookie deal.
 
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Bradford is essentially in the same exact spot Sanchez was at this time last year. Overpaid, coming off an injury, middle of the pack QB. Nobody is going to trade for him. Teams will wait until he is released and then pick him up at a fraction of his current salary.. It makes no sense for anyone to give up something in a trade when they could just wait for him to be released.
 
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He's nothing like Sanchez, he's an established solid QB when healthy with a 2:1 TD to INT ratio despite playing Arizona, Seattle, and 9ers with no offensive skill positions and Brian S as OC. He's closer to Pennington than Sanchez.

In terms of contract situation, I felt the Rams were posturing earlier this week to get him to take a pay cut. If he can stay healthy, he's a franchise QB, he'll go for more than a 5th. There will be competition for his services from Houston, Cleveland, and Bills.

Now that he's officially available, he's the #1 QB on the market, imo. I think if the Bills get him they will challenge for the division. I think if we get him, we'll be in the playoff hunt.

Instead of comparing it to last years Sanchez situation, I think it's more like the Bree's situation in SD where they didn't trust him to stay healthy and moved on, but it was obvious he could play when healthy.
 
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roger said:
Bradford is essentially in the same exact spot Sanchez was at this time last year. Overpaid, coming off an injury, middle of the pack QB. Nobody is going to trade for him. Teams will wait until he is released and then pick him up at a fraction of his current salary.. It makes no sense for anyone to give up something in a trade when they could just wait for him to be released.
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That's a pretty harsh assessment of Bradford, especially comparing him to Sanchez, fer cryin' out loud. You're going to have scant company agreeing they are even remotely equivalent talent wise. Time will tell, but I also suspect you'll be proven wrong WRT your statement that no one will trade for Bradford, providing St Louis does make him available. One of the biggest mistakes fans make on this topic is the assumption that a player can easily be had once released. If Bradford were released, we and any other interested team would have to compete with each other for his services. The only way to secure such a player is to trade for them while they are under contract, and a 3rd day pick is a small price to pay for that.
 
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He's in the same spot as Sanchez was in terms of contract, injury, and everyone knowing that he's going to be cut.

No ones going to give up assets for him and pick up his contract when they could just wait and sign him as a FA. Teams will talk with him, but no one is going to trade for him. Once he's released there will probably be a fair amount of interest in him from the teams you mentioned, plus the Jets.
 
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GratefulJet said:
That's a pretty harsh assessment of Bradford, especially comparing him to Sanchez, fer cryin' out loud. You're going to have scant company agreeing they are even remotely equivalent talent wise. Time will tell, but I also suspect you'll be proven wrong WRT your statement that no one will trade for Bradford, providing St Louis does make him available. One of the biggest mistakes fans make on this topic is the assumption that a player can easily be had once released. If Bradford were released, we and any other interested team would have to compete with each other for his services. The only way to secure such a player is to trade for them while they are under contract, and a 3rd day pick is a small price to pay for that.
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Not true.

There is not going to be any bidding war for Sam Bradford. If you want him, wait a month or so and sign him on your terms.

Glad you're not running the franchise.
 
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I dont recall his contract, but I think it is big. No way I send even a 4th for him with that contract. I might take him and his contract if THEY give me a pick.

Once he is released, he would be an interesting free agent.
 
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Over his last 23 starts, he threw for 35 touchdowns and only 17 interceptions...I think he'll be more than "an interesting free agent," he'd be the best free agent QB since Peyton Manning. I'll be surprised/shocked if they cut him. But maybe.
 
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roger said:
Not true.

There is not going to be any bidding war for Sam Bradford. If you want him, wait a month or so and sign him on your terms.

Glad you're not running the franchise.
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LOL. In one post you say " Once he's released there will probably be a fair amount of interest in him from the teams you mentioned, plus the Jets" and 4 minutes later you say "There is not going to be any bidding war for Sam Bradford. If you want him, wait a month or so and sign him on your terms."

In other words, you're even trolling yourself. You probably need to find your way to the new Scout board, where being a low information, loudmouth d!ckhead is a membership requirement. Here's the link:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=65&f=1875&sto=pagestart

Have at it.
 
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GratefulJet said:
LOL. In one post you say " Once he's released there will probably be a fair amount of interest in him from the teams you mentioned, plus the Jets" and 4 minutes later you say "There is not going to be any bidding war for Sam Bradford. If you want him, wait a month or so and sign him on your terms."

In other words, you're even trolling yourself. You probably need to find your way to the new Scout board, where being a low information, loudmouth d!ckhead is a membership requirement. Here's the link:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=65&f=1875&sto=pagestart

Have at it.
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There's a difference between interest and a bidding war, Chumley.

Someone will pick him up. He'll be paid just like any other middle of the pack QB. Hell pick the team he thinks he has the best chance of getting the starting job and sign a short term deal with them. Money will not be the determining factor.

If he determines the Rams are the best situation for him, he'll take a paycut and stay there. He's going to get middle of the pack QB money, exactly where guys like he and Sanchez belong.

And, no ones trading for him. At least no one smart.
 
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GratefulJet said:
LOL. In one post you say " Once he's released there will probably be a fair amount of interest in him from the teams you mentioned, plus the Jets" and 4 minutes later you say "There is not going to be any bidding war for Sam Bradford. If you want him, wait a month or so and sign him on your terms."

In other words, you're even trolling yourself. You probably need to find your way to the new Scout board, where being a low information, loudmouth d!ckhead is a membership requirement. Here's the link:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=65&f=1875&sto=pagestart

Have at it.
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:) I've noticed a lot of people who contradict themselves on this site. It's one thing to say I like Mariota, but I'd also like Foles at QB, that's cool; but its another thing to say I want a rookie QB so hopefully we trade for Foles. I see that crap on this board a ton and all I can do is laugh.

There's all kinds out there. :popcorn:
 
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roger said:
There's a difference between interest and a bidding war, Chumley.

Someone will pick him up. He'll be paid just like any other middle of the pack QB. Hell pick the team he thinks he has the best chance of getting the starting job and sign a short term deal with them. Money will not be the determining factor.

If he determines the Rams are the best situation for him, he'll take a paycut and stay there. He's going to get middle of the pack QB money, exactly where guys like he and Sanchez belong.

And, no ones trading for him. At least no one smart.
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Don't mess with this guy! He knows the future!

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Are you referring to me?

I haven't contradicted myself at all. No ones trading for Sam Bradford. I'm not sure why that's so difficult to understand.
 
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All this fighting may be a moot point but let's get on point to discussing the topic rather than poking at each other unnecessarily. The Rams GM shot down the report. Please see below per rotoworld. Having said that, I do believe he has an insane contract that will not make him worth a trade. Only way he sticks around on any team is if he has a restructured deal. Bradford has two things going against him. Contract and injury history. Doubt he will command much interest via a trade higher than a fourth in my opinion.

Rams GM Les Snead shot down a report that said Sam Bradford has permission to seek a trade, saying "deleting" Bradford from the roster is "not the answer."
Prior to Snead taking the podium at the NFL Combine, CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reported the Rams gave Bradford's agent permission to seek a trade. When asked about the report, Snead basically said Bradford will be coming to camp with the Rams, though he did mention the two sides have started talks about possibly restructuring Bradford's contract. Unless the Rams can land either Marcus Mariota or Jameis Winston (unlikely), Bradford is their best option. Feb 18 - 2:54 PM
 
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Elias said:
If there is a deal I hope it's contingent in restructuring.
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Hmmm, Tannehill is about to be making $15 mill per year...you think Bradford should restructure $13 mill? Im not sure his agent will feel the same way. Bradford is a more established QB than Tannehill, IMO.

In 2013, the last season Bradford played, he got knocked out week 7, he had 14 TDs and 4 INTs at the time... He's a top 8-12 QB in the NFL when he's playing. Not sure Dalton, kaepernick and tannehill making $15-16 mill perseason as the 15-25th best QBs gives much hope for Bradford coming much down. Maybe down to $10 mill for a season, but he'd likely set that up so he can walk after 1 year without being franchised.
 
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Elias said:
All this fighting may be a moot point but let's get on point to discussing the topic rather than poking at each other unnecessarily. The Rams GM shot down the report. Please see below per rotoworld. Having said that, I do believe he has an insane contract that will not make him worth a trade. Only way he sticks around on any team is if he has a restructured deal. Bradford has two things going against him. Contract and injury history. Doubt he will command much interest via a trade higher than a fourth in my opinion.

Rams GM Les Snead shot down a report that said Sam Bradford has permission to seek a trade, saying "deleting" Bradford from the roster is "not the answer."
Prior to Snead taking the podium at the NFL Combine, CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reported the Rams gave Bradford's agent permission to seek a trade. When asked about the report, Snead basically said Bradford will be coming to camp with the Rams, though he did mention the two sides have started talks about possibly restructuring Bradford's contract. Unless the Rams can land either Marcus Mariota or Jameis Winston (unlikely), Bradford is their best option. Feb 18 - 2:54 PM
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More fairly stated, he has one thing going against him: injury history. If he's healthy, his contract is reasonable. He's a borderline elite QB when healthy, with a lot of upside.
 
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Superman55 said:
Hmmm, Tannehill is about to be making $15 mill per year...you think Bradford should restructure $13 mill? Im not sure his agent will feel the same way. Bradford is a more established QB than Tannehill, IMO.

In 2013, the last season Bradford played, he got knocked out week 7, he had 14 TDs and 4 INTs at the time... He's a top 8-12 QB in the NFL when he's playing. Not sure Dalton, kaepernick and tannehill making $15-16 mill perseason as the 15-25th best QBs gives much hope for Bradford coming much down. Maybe down to $10 mill for a season, but he'd likely set that up so he can walk after 1 year without being franchised.
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He's coming off two major injuries. I'm always weary of injury prone people but you make a good case and he will prob stay at $13m.
 
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