Saleh insists Jets’ rebuild is different, ‘an actual plan’

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NEW YORK (AP) — There are three words New York Jets fans have grown weary of hearing from the team’s coaches and players:

Patience. Process. Progress.

To many, it’s all just wash, rinse, repeat.

Losing can harden even the most loyal of followers, who have grown calloused while waiting for another chance at a Super Bowl appearance. After all, 1969 is a long, long time ago. And this is a franchise that will likely miss the playoffs for the 11th straight season, the NFL’s longest active drought.

So when Robert Saleh talks about how things will flip in the Jets’ favor someday soon, it’s easy to brush off. But the coach believes this is truly different — and things will absolutely change for the better, even if that’s tough to see at 2-8.

“I respect the heck out of the urgency from the fans and the wanting to flip this thing, but in fairness, this is the first time this fanbase has experienced something like this,” Saleh said Monday. “Usually, it has been a quick fix followed by a scramble.”

General manager Joe Douglas has vowed to build success through the draft and free agency. And this is a rebuild in its infancy — even though the Jets went through one just four years ago when they went 5-11 and drafted Sam Darnold with similar hopes for the future.

That all backfired in a hurry.

The personnel in the front office is different now, and so is much of that on the field. It was another total reset and it starts with Douglas and Saleh, and goes to rookie quarterback Zach Wilson — and on from there.

“This is an actual plan,” Saleh insisted. “I feel like Joe is doing a phenomenal job with a really, really concise plan on how to build from the ground up. And there’s a lot of exciting pieces on this team that are hidden in these losses. But when you sit back and watch it from our perspective and (with) the combination of veterans and youth, it’s definitely going in the right direction.

“And eventually, while frustrating today, it’s going to be awesome when this thing gets flipped.”

The players are singing a similar refrain. And while they don’t accept a tough loss — filled with penalties, mistakes and missed opportunities — such as their 24-17 defeat against Miami on Sunday, they see positive signs.

At least that’s what they’re hanging on to as the losses pile up.

“Rome wasn’t built in one day and this thing isn’t going to get turned around in one day,” said right tackle Morgan Moses, before adding: “We have a lot of great players in this building.”

But sooner rather than later, they’ll have to prove that on the field. Or Jets fans will be covering their ears — and eyes — again in a few years.

WHAT’S WORKING

The offense still has issues, especially consistently producing in the red zone and converting scoring opportunities. But the Jets also have some legitimate playmakers. Rookie wide receiver Elijah Moore is a game-breaking-type weapon, and his role will only increase as Mike LaFleur’s offense solidifies. New York has visions of a Wilson-to-Moore combination causing opponents problems for years.

WHAT NEEDS HELP

The pass rush is almost nonexistent with just three sacks in the last three games. New York had only three pressures in the second half against Miami, and Tua Tagovailoa threw touchdown passes on two of them. There’s undeniable talent up front, particularly with Quinnen Williams and John Franklin-Myers, but the D-line needs to have more impact plays.

STOCK UP

Bryce Hall. The second-year cornerback has been improving each week. He was one of Pro Football Focus’ top-rated players at his position Sunday, when he allowed just four catches for 21 yards against the Dolphins. Hall, a fifth-rounder out of Virginia, is establishing himself as a foundation piece in Saleh’s defense.

STOCK DOWN

Matt Ammendola. The kicker’s job security seems tenuous at best after missing two field goals against Miami. He’s 11 of 16 on field goals, including 0 for 3 on kicks of 50 or more yards. Saleh said the Jets would evaluate the position, along with every other spot, over the next day.

INJURIES

Saleh said Wilson had a “very good” workout before the game and will be evaluated through Tuesday before the team makes a decision Wednesday whether he’ll start Sunday at Houston. ... Rookie RB Michael Carter, another bright spot, will be out two-to-three weeks with what Saleh said is a “mild” high ankle sprain. ... LB C.J. Mosley said he’s fine after leaving the game late to be evaluated for a head injury.

KEY NUMBER

141 — The number of yards receiving Moore had on eight catches against the Dolphins, the most by a Jets rookie since Rob Moore had 175 at New England in 1990.

NEXT STEPS

The Jets have to make a decision at quarterback and then plan for a “showdown” with the Texans, who are also 2-8. This could end up going a long way in determining which team picks No. 2, with winless Detroit the front-runner for No. 1 in the draft.

 

Tinstar

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We shall see if he’s right after this upcoming draft and free agency . I target Steeler WR James Washington in free agency and forget about WR in the draft . I also like the Arkansas center for our 2023 starter at the position. The big question is going to be acquiring a RT or RG for the future.
 

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We shall see if he’s right after this upcoming draft and free agency . I target Steeler WR James Washington in free agency and forget about WR in the draft . I also like the Arkansas center for our 2023 starter at the position. The big question is going to be acquiring a RT or RG for the future.
I tend to be a glass half-full guy, and am positive about the direction of the team. I listened to Saleh when he said that this wasn't going to be a abrupt turnaround, I see Joe D stockpiling quality players via the draft and stockpiling future picks as well. I had/have no great expectations for this season or even the next, just glimpses of what can be. We've seen some real reason for optimism on offense with our recent draft class. The defense not so much, but there are some cornerstones there that will be supplemented in the next offseason or two. I suspect that we will see flashes from the defense next year like we've seen from the offense this year. I understand people's frustration, but I'm not there yet, even remotely so. This is why you don't see me posting on game day or Monday about this one sucks or that one sucks. I'm already studying the college player draft pool in anticipation of another haul of roster building. With all of that in mind, I'm going to let this one play out.
 
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Tinstar

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I tend to be a glass half-full guy, and am positive about the direction of the team. I listened to Saleh when he said that this wasn't going to be a abrupt turnaround, I see Joe D stockpiling quality players via the draft and stockpiling future picks as well. I had/have no great expectations for this season or even the next, just glimpses of what can be. We've seen some real reason for optimism on offense with our recent draft class. The defense not so much, but there are some cornerstones there that will be supplemented in the next offseason or two. I suspect that we will see flashes from the defense next year like we've seen from the offense this year. I understand people's frustration, but I'm not there yet, even remotely so. This is why you don't me posting on game day or Monday about this one sucks or that one sucks. I'm already studying the college player draft pool in anticipation of another haul of roster building. With all of that in mind, I'm going to let this one play out.
Smart move . These guys appear to have a plan and the GM has done a solid job thus far.
 

hatnlvr

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We shall see. We can only be patient, and he has said all the right things. Next few drafts and free agency, they will be more aggressive with acquiring "their types of players", so how that develops and how the teams grows together will be the final determining factor of this regime.
 

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from what I hear what is going on in Florham Park they do have the right idea...

but like @hatnlvr said they are going to have to draft and sign their type of players to execute this new idea...

some players here, don't or can't perform certain techniques not because they can not eventually but now they are out of sorts to this style...
 

cheaterhater

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thing is it has to happen fast enough that certain players who will demand big bucks are still on their rookie contracts. if we end uo.with good players, some of them.will have to get paid. If we are already winning at this point, they will want.to stay and.hopefully play a little cheaper to stay here but if we still stink then no one will want to stay unless they are getting over paid

I personally believe there is a.plan and it is a good one. does that mean it will work? it works a lot better if you have some wins to prove it can work

it's a whole lot easier to believe.in Santa if you've heard his sleigh bells on Christmas Eve. We haven't heard a whole lot of sleigh bells so far
 

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My big concern is hitting on our 1st, 2nd and 3rd Rd picks in the Draft. Right now Becton and Mims are iffy picks. Free Agency has been so-so on the OL with Van Roten being a disaster. We also got hit by the injury bug. I truly believe after next years Draft and one season under Saleh, the Jets will make big strides towards a winning season. I hope!
 

Bigmoe

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it's a whole lot easier to believe.in Santa if you've heard his sleigh bells on Christmas Eve.

In the words of Dean Martin
“ I don’t care who you are fat man - get those reindeers off my roof “
Yes he said reindeers not reindeer

blah blah blah
Heard it all before coach
Fool me once
Shame on you
Fool me twice
Shame on me

@cheaterhater
You do know who Dino was ?
JK
 
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Seaver41

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Am I seeing doubters loosening up? Climb aboard - it's gonna be a long, bumpy, glorious ride -something never done before by the Jets.
 

cheaterhater

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In the words of Dean Martin
“ I don’t care who you are fat man - get those reindeers off my roof “
Yes he said reindeers not reindeer

blah blah blah
Heard it all before coach
Fool me once
Shame on you
Fool me twice
Shame on me

@cheaterhater
You do know who Dino was ?
JK
Freds dinosaur. I have his Christmas music
 

gastineau

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Finally some of you notice what Ive been saying about getting a Good Vet Center that can lead the Offensive line pointing out blitzes telling QB and telling linemen who to watch. WR, Center are a must next year and like a proven vet at both. Rest use Draft picks finding 2 pass rushers to smash divisions QBs like they did to our guy. Pats QB gets smashed and he will go back wards for sure. He is a babied QB on Pats and nit close to top 2 QB drafted in talent. But building confidence is what Panties have done.
 

jets82

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I’m with the regime and Zach and this team 100 percent. Now next year I better truly start seeing some positive changes or my eyebrow will be raised. By year three if it’s not coming along I might be ready at that point to jump ship. Hopefully it doesn’t come to this.
 

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I’m with the regime and Zach and this team 100 percent. Now next year I better truly start seeing some positive changes or my eyebrow will be raised. By year three if it’s not coming along I might be ready at that point to jump ship. Hopefully it doesn’t come to this.
We have no choice lol
 
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