Players that you want no part of come draft day

[Pointdexter]

Mine:

QB's: Hundley and Brandon Bridge (I like my QB's with accuracy and pocket awareness)

WR's: Devin Funchess, Sammy Coates (Funchess gets no separation and Coates is a better athlete than WR)

LB: Dante Fowler (As big of a "me" player as you get. Will be a headache)

OL: Sherff (highly overrated. Cam Erving is twice the prospect)

CB: Byron Jones (his ascension is crazy. He's an injured CB coming from UCONN. Not worth day one consideration)


*Philip Dorsett should not go before round 3 because of his size. Anything before that and I am not on board with it.

*I'm very leery of Devin Smith also. I don't think he's polished.

 

[Old#15]

Mariota. May be the right guy in the long term, but the wrong situation in that we don't have the surrounding pieces or patience to let him sit and develop properly.

 

[sg3]

Mariota. May be the right guy in the long term, but the wrong situation in that we don't have the surrounding pieces or patience to let him sit and develop properly.

Respectfully disagree

Elite QBs rare as hens teeth in the draft and, mark my words, Mariota will be an Elite NFL QB as early as 2015 If available at 6, Jets need to break ankles rushing his card up to the commissioner at the podium in Chicagoland

Passing him up would be right up there with passing up Dan Marino in 1983, especially for a team saddled with the Geno Albatross around their neck as we speak

 

[NickSINYC]

Mariota. May be the right guy in the long term, but the wrong situation in that we don't have the surrounding pieces or patience to let him sit and develop properly.

I respect your opinion a lot but it's long term solutions we should be looking for not short IMO

 

[Pointdexter]

Mariota. May be the right guy in the long term, but the wrong situation in that we don't have the surrounding pieces or patience to let him sit and develop properly.

I respectfully disagree as well.

Jaws was just on Mike and Mike. Said Mariota might be the most humble and hard working guy in the draft. NY'ers will love him because of that. Also said that here is a 6'4 guy who runs a 4.5 forty and displayed great accuracy at the combine. He's smart so there's no reason to think he can't pick up a pro scheme. I think if we surround him with Spiller, Decker, Ivory, Powell, Amaro, and someone like Perriman, that is a good supporting cast. His wheels will erase a lot of our deficiencies in pass pro.

He's not perfect but I think those are tools you gamble on.

 

[NickSINYC]

I respectfully disagree as well.

Jaws was just on Mike and Mike. Said Mariota might be the most humble and hard working guy in the draft. NY'ers will love him because of that. Also said that here is a 6'4 guy who runs a 4.5 forty and displayed great accuracy at the combine. He's smart so there's no reason to think he can't pick up a pro scheme. I think if we surround him with Spiller, Decker, Ivory, Powell, Amaro, and someone like Perriman, that is a good supporting cast. His wheels will erase a lot of our deficiencies in pass pro.

He's not perfect but I think those are tools you gamble on.

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If he is sitting there and the Eagles don't blow us away with a trade including Foles you have to draft Mariota.

 

[Old#15]

I respect your opinion a lot but it's long term solutions we should be looking for not short IMO

I just think that if you put him into a situation where he plays right away, you run the risk of ruining the kid. My big concern with Mariota is not so much his long term value, but whether we as a football community (fanbase, press and ownership) have the patience necessary for the raw young QB that he is.

 

[sg3]

With all due respect for Mr Jaworski, I remember well him saying that the Jets had the steal of the draft with Kellen Clemons.

Hopefully, 1) he is righter this time, 2) the Duck is there at 6 and 3) Big Macc grabs him for the Jets

 

[Pointdexter]

I don't think Jets fans will ever let him live that one down. No one is 100% in predictions. Jaws always comes off as very insightful and knowledgeable when he breaks down QB's. At least to me, he does.

 

[NickSINYC]

I just think that if you put him into a situation where he plays right away, you run the risk of ruining the kid. My big concern with Mariota is not so much his long term value, but whether we as a football commu
nity (fanbase, press and ownership) have the patience necessary for the raw young QB that he is.

We have a new regime . I have faith they will do the right thing. Forget the media and the fan base. Have faith in Bowles

 

[Superman55]

This is a tough question because my answer usually depends on where a player is drafted...as an example I want no part of Beckham at 6, I do like him at 42. Ray is becoming s guy I don't want unless we trade back first. I think he isn't a top 3 OLB any more with this stacked class. I don't want any TEs in the first 3 rounds.

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

Todd Gurley and Melvin Gordon.

No first round RB's. Not sure I even want one in the second round.

 

[hobson54]

this may be odd coming from a michigan homer, but i'm gonna say devin funchess. the player i saw last year was lazy, ran terrible routes, dropped a bunch of balls, and didn't give it all his effort. he's being way over-hyped in this draft and is a tweener - to slow to be a top WR, not physical enough to play TE. maybe he will be successful as a hybrid TE/WR, but i think he will get over-drafted and don't want another michigan bust on the jets.

of course, he will probably go to the pats and become the next aaron hernandez (minus the whole murder thing)... :smiley-angry046:

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

I just think that if you put him into a situation where he plays right away, you run the risk of ruining the kid. My big concern with Mariota is not so much his long term value, but whether we as a football community (fanbase, press and ownership) have the patience necessary for the raw young QB that he is.

You are correct. Much of the fanbase and NY media will be unreasonable in their impatience waiting for Mariota to develop.

With that said, I agree with Nick: unless someone blows us away with a trade offer, and assuming Mariota slips to us, you've gotta take the QB. Too much potential reward. A potentially franchise altering pick. It remains to be seen if Macc and Co. see him that way.

 

[eaglenj]

Mariota. May be the right guy in the long term, but the wrong situation in that we don't have the surrounding pieces or patience to let him sit and develop properly.

I disagree as well with respect to the talent around him.

We had a very bad combination last year offensively with our HC, OC, and QB.

Our HC had no clue about offense and developed an organizational philosophy (either on purpose or as a result of his actions) where the offense was considered secondary.

Our OC was married to his scheme, which is EXTREMELY complicated for any QB, let alone a spread QB like Geno.

Our QB, not only needed time to develop, but was forced to take on the entire playbook of a complicated, timing based offense that truly takes 3-5 years to master.

On top of all that, our HC/OC continued to play people like jeff cumberland who showed that on a week-to-week basis that they were incapable of being + NFL starters.

Chan is going to simplify things for whoever the QB is, whether Geno or Mariota. We are going to emphasize discipline and hard work in the classroom and this team is going to be a lot more prepared then any of Rex's previous groups.

Ivory, Decker, Amaro, Kerley (who is better then what he showed in 2014 - he lost a close personal friend during the season and apparently it really affected him) and some FA signing is enough to get mariota or geno into a position to be productive.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

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If he is sitting there and the Eagles don't blow us away with a trade including Foles you have to draft Mariota.

If he is there then you take him if no trade is available involving a QB. I kinda hope he is gone only because I don't think he is close to a sure thing. All I hear is how hard it is to go from spread to pro style. I don't want another RG3 situation and I don't think the fans with me included have the patience to wait for him to develop.

 

[jetfandreamer]

Mine:

QB's: Hundley and Brandon Bridge (I like my QB's with accuracy and pocket awareness)

WR's: Devin Funchess, Sammy Coates (Funchess gets no separation and Coates is a better athlete than WR)

LB: Dante Fowler (As big of a "me" player as you get. Will be a headache)

OL: Sherff (highly overrated. Cam Erving is twice the prospect)

CB: Byron Jones (his ascension is crazy. He's an injured CB coming from UCONN. Not worth day one consideration)


*Philip Dorsett should not go before round 3 because of his size. Anything before that and I am not on board with it.

*I'm very leery of Devin Smith also. I don't think he's polished.

I am a little leery of Gregory..he put on weight because it was the combine , but he looks very thin and looks like big OT can swallow him up....he reminds me of AARON MAYBIN a little

 

[Pointdexter]

I am a little leery of Gregory..he put on weight because it was the combine , but he looks very thin and looks like big OT can swallow him up....he reminds me of AARON MAYBIN a little

I agree with this. Gregory makes me nervous too. I think there is both superstar and bust potential with him. I would much rather have Beasley, Ray, or Dupree. I think all three are safer choices with nearly the same upside.

 

[OCCH]

If he is there then you take him if no trade is available involving a QB. I kinda hope he is gone only because I don't think he is close to a sure thing. All I hear is how hard it is to go from spread to pro style. I don't want another RG3 situation and I don't think the fans with me included have the patience to wait for him to develop.

I would actually sign up for an RGIII clone in a heartbeat. The guy lit the league on fire, then suffered injuries. While I don't agree with drafting injury prone players (hated the Milliner pick from day one), I also don't think you base your decision on POTENTIAL injury.

Half the battle is showing you CAN do it -- RGIII did, Geno/Mark did not. Once you show you CAN, then it's on you to maintain/grow. Give me a guy who can do the former and I'll trust the football gods for the rest . . .

 

[Superman55]

I agree with this. Gregory makes me nervous too. I think there is both superstar and bust potential with him. I would much rather have Beasley, Ray, or Dupree. I think all three are safer choices with nearly the same upside.

Dont you think Ray has similar red flags to gregory? I would think your order would be something more like Beasely, Dupree, and Ray.

I really like gregory, but I also really like Fowler, Dupree, and Beasely. I honestly just wnt whichever one Bowles and his staff want the most from that list. They're all so close in talent its hard for me to stand behind one of these OLBs in the draft when 4 of them will likely be studs, you know?