Shady McCoy traded to Buffalo

[Football51]

You're right, last year we were the only team with money to spend and...we crapped the bed (one of the only teams with $55 mill to spend anyway).

Hopefully this regime facing everyone with cap room fairs better.

Didn't the Raiders & Bucs have more cap space last year? Aren't they both drafting ahead of us this year? Amount spent doesn't equal success. The Giants spent over $100 mil in contracts last year and barely finished with a better record than us and that is with a future HOF Qb.

 

[Football51]

Gregg Rosenthal @greggrosenthal · 33m33 minutes ago

19 players had 250 touches last season. LeSean McCoy had the fewest yards-per-touch of any of them.

 

[jets82]

Maybe due to Parcel's bias but McCoy is more talented than Curtis was. He's closer to Marshall Faulk, who was also more talented than Curts, even if Parcels would have played Curtis over Faulk.

Faulk was better then Martin and McCoy maybe also because of their catching ability that was displayed consistently and their running style. Which was totally different them Martin's. Martin was more a a one cut power back that had good hands also but wasn't used to catch like Faulk or McCoy was. its a personally choice really and I guess I'm being biased. I loved Martin, he was favorite Jet of all time beside Al Toon so I will believe Martin was one of the best of all time always. Besides, Martin is the 4th highest RB in rushing yards in history I believe. He was no slouch and if Faulk or McCoy are better then him, it ain't by much!

 

[ucrenegade]

Faulk was better then Martin and McCoy maybe also because of their catching ability that was displayed consistently and their running style. Which was totally different them Martin's. Martin was more a a one cut power back that had good hands also but wasn't used to catch like Faulk or McCoy was. its a personally choice really and I guess I'm being biased. I loved Martin, he was favorite Jet of all time beside Al Toon so I will believe Martin was one of the best of all time always. Besides, Martin is the 4th highest RB in rushing yards in history I believe. He was no slouch and if Faulk or McCoy are better then him, it ain't by much!

uh oh wait till savage see's this lol

 

[jets82]

And that's the only reason first 6 years the compiler was under 4 ypc 3 times.. He needed many more carries to do what McCoy did with much less.. McCoy's 6 years he was never under 4.1 (his rookie year) and over 5 ypc twice.. Plus he's also a excellent receiver..

The same message applies to you as the above response to the posters that feels the way you do about Martin. Martin is a all-time great and if Faulk or McCoy are better then him, it ain't by much. Martin's running style was totally different to Faulk and McCoy and he was excellent at catching the ball but he wasn't used in that way much. I will go with Martin anyway over with over Faulk and McCoy but thats my personal bias. Doesn't make it right or wrong.

 

[OCCH]

....raise them to mediocrity?

The Bills were 9-7 last year and just added one of the top 3 RBs in all of football...

I was referring to all the praise Miami received for their "stellar" offseason a few years ago that ultimately didn't materialize into anything near what they hoped.

If you think this puts Buffalo over the top, so be it. Personally I'll wait until it manifests itself on the field . . .

 

[jets82]

uh oh wait till savage see's this lol

I don't care who sees it and how they feel about it. Its my personal opinion and bias (I will admit) and we all have them. Curtis is a HOFer and a top 10 RB of all time. So like I said, if Faulk and McCoy are better it ain't by much and I would have chosen Martin.

 

[ucrenegade]

I don't care who sees it and how they feel about it. Its my personal opinion and bias (I will admit) and we all have them. Curtis is a HOFer and a top 10 RB of all time. So like I said, if Faulk and McCoy are better it ain't by much and I would have chosen Martin.

it was sarcasm

 

[jets82]

it was sarcasm

I got ya! Sorry but I get a bit sensitive when people want to discredit or I take it that people want to discredit all time Jets greats. We don't have many of them and Martin is one of the Jets greats and best players of all time period.

 

[HYATT™]

They did? News to me. Orton was rated 19th in the league, behind guys like Mark Sanchez and Jay Cutler last year (yes, with as bad as Jay was, he was better than Orton); as in, if they sign Sanchez, it will be an upgrade to Orton.

Not sure it is a blind leap to say that they may have a better QB situation in 2015 and McCoy...

Orton has never been a "statistically good" QB, (rankings-wise), but he has an undeniable will to win that rises above his less-than-mediocre stats sheets.
On some pretty bad teams over the past decade he's still managed to have more wins than losses as a starter in 6 of 10 seasons, & has a winning overall career record.
I don't know of a lot of rubber band armed QBs on bad teams who can make that claim of distinction.
Pennington, maybe, who, incidentally, had a very similar career & stats across the board, on some horrendous Jets & Phish teams.
It's been HYATT™'s considered opinion that Lovie made a mistake in going away from (10-5) rookie Orton in favor of Sexy Rexy Grossman in 2006.
If Lovie had stuck with Orton, maybe the CHI team would have won that Super Bowl against Middle Manning.
Don't be so quick to sell short what Orton brought to BUF's table last season.

 

[Superman55]

Orton has never been a "statistically good" QB, (rankings-wise), but he has an undeniable will to win that rises above his less-than-mediocre stats sheets.
On some pretty bad teams over the past decade he's still managed to have more wins than losses as a starter in 6 of 10 seasons, & has a winning overall career record.
I don't know of a lot of rubber band armed QBs on bad teams who can make that claim of distinction.
Pennington, maybe, who, incidentally, had a very similar career & stats across the board, on some horrendous Jets & Phish teams.
It's been HYATT™'s considered opinion that Lovie made a mistake in going away from (10-5) rookie Orton in favor of Sexy Rexy Grossman in 2006.
If Lovie had stuck with Orton, maybe the CHI team would have won that Super Bowl against Middle Manning.
Don't be so quick to sell short what Orton brought to BUF's table last season.

I'm sure he was a stabilizing factor was felt beyond his stats. What do you think of replacing Orton with your boy Cassell?

 

[sg3]

Strangely I am in agreement with the H Man


Orton was good enough to kick the living crap out of the Circus Clown and his Pop's vaunted defense TWICE last season, once at MetLife and then again after not being able to practice due to weather in the mistake by the Lake.

I have a really strong feeling that Cassel running Rex's offense this season may not have similar results

 

[Football51]

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet · 2m2 minutes ago

Interested to learn trading #Bills LB Kiko Alonso was one of the first things Rex Ryan wanted to do when hired. Perhaps not a scheme fit

 

[Savage69]

The same message applies to you as the above response to the posters that feels the way you do about Martin. Martin is a all-time great and if Faulk or McCoy are better then him, it ain't by much. Martin's running style was totally different to Faulk and McCoy and he was excellent at catching the ball but he wasn't used in that way much. I will go with Martin anyway over with over Faulk and McCoy but thats my personal bias. Doesn't make it right or wrong.

And I have no problem with that at all.. Vinny has more td's and passing yardage then Montana I know some that consider him the best Jet QB ever.. I have no problem with them either..

 

[Elias]

Strangely I am in agreement with the H Man


Orton was good enough to kick the living crap out of the Circus Clown and his Pop's vaunted defense TWICE last season, once at MetLife and then again after not being able to practice due to weather in the mistake by the Lake.

I have a really strong feeling that Cassel running Rex's offense this season may not have similar results

This in itself is a miracle

 

[sg3]

What can I say, Elias

You and NYJF are Miracle Workers

 

[ucrenegade]

all i have to say is one thing i do worry about is mccoy is made for the wildcat so we need some fast lb's which is why we should let harris go to buffalo and sign acho and draft dupree.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

all i have to say is one thing i do worry about is mccoy is made for the wildcat so we need some fast lb's which is why we should let harris go to buffalo and sign acho and draft dupree.

Who cares?? McCoy has two good years left in him and we won't be good for at least 2 years.

 

[SackExchange]

I don't necessarily agree with that. The Jets are forced to spend money this offseason. They have a ton of cap room, and because they didn't spend last year, they are obliged under the CBA to spend at least 89% of the cap this upcoming season.

If they land a mediocre QB starter, someone who can stabilize the position, and then spend to upgrade G, WR, and CB, perhaps a few other positions, they can at least be relevant, mediocre, this season. I don't think being "good" is too far off.

 

[Jet Setter]

I don't necessarily agree with that. The Jets are forced to spend money this offseason. They have a ton of cap room, and because they didn't spend last year, they are obliged under the CBA to spend at least 89% of the cap this upcoming season.

If they land a mediocre QB starter, someone who can stabilize the position, and then spend to upgrade G, WR, and CB, perhaps a few other positions, they can at least be relevant, mediocre, this season. I don't think being "good" is too far off.

Actually, that 89% pertains to this year and next. They don't have to spend it all this year. This is why I think of the new regime approaching this thing as a 2-year build. For example, if they don't see a FS they like in FA or the draft this year, evaluate who you have and wait until next year.