The Parcells Interview (audio)

[Jet Setter]

We'll see, we had two bottom 5 (by PFT ranking) pass blocking olinemen last year in Colon and Gia and dopes like Sudfeld actually on the field in key moments losing jump balls at 6'7 to 5'10 DBs...

You also have to factor in Sanchez came from Carroll's pro style (but very simplified) offense (Carroll's offense is still a handful of plays, that INT in the super bowl was the 7th time he had called that exact play in the game...) vs Geno coming from the spread offense almost no one runs in the NFL. You also have to factor Geno needing to learn NFL footwork, terminology, and how to read defenses and look off defenders vs Sanchez who took snaps under center and only needed the mental part of the game, not the physical learning corve of a pro style offense as well as the mental parts...

Sanchez was far more NFL ready coming out of USC than Geno (or Mariota for that matter) was coming from WVU. one thing I will warn is Mariota has every wart Geno had coming out of wvu and I feel will be a bust if asked to start and learn day 1, because he'll need time to learn also...just like Geno...and 2 years wont be enough for Mariota if he isnt learning and just working on playing...

We're calling Geno a bust after 2 years, if we start Mariota day 1, I feel we will also be calling him a bust after 2 years, because that's the windows QB seem to have these days...2 seasons...

I agree Sanchez had all the advantages and when they let loose of his leash he inexplicably started throwing to the other team. He was a very poor decision maker. He had the tools and Rex took his time with Mark. He didn't have it. And Geno may not either but who would know? He's had no one to throw to.

 

[Superman55]

I agree Sanchez had all the advantages and when they let loose of his leash he inexplicably started throwing to the other team. He was a very poor decision maker. He had the tools and Rex took his time with Mark. He didn't have it. And Geno may not either but who would know? He's had no one to throw to.

If by no one you mean David Nelson and Stephen Hill...dont let any Geno haters think they're no ones...lets keep it our secret...some people think they were good enough to win with...probably the same people till this day wish they knew how Idzik's plan would have worked out. My point is, if they're not smart enough to figure out Geno has been playing with community college talent, selected by a complete idiot GM, then ignorance and bliss and let them stay in their state of euphoria.

This is my state of euphoria

 

[jets82]

Alright people, there you have it from the horses mouth. A NFL GREAT HOF HC in Parcells, a coach that took our team from 1-15 to the AFC championship in just two years (I believe). A coach that won two titles with the Giants and took the Patriots to a SB and made them relevant. A HC that helped put Dallas back on the map also and he is saying Geno can be a very good QB. BELIEVE IT NOW???

I am very doubtful I will admit and ready to write Geno off but very hopeful at the same time that Geno can be what Parcells says he can be. Can't anyone dispute that Geno was thrown into the fire not being ready for it and not having a team that could hold him down and help him in his development on the field. This is exactly what Parcells is saying Geno didn't have but has now. His previous HC, OC and GM were IDIOTS and left him to die out there pretty much.

Geno now has a new regime that knows what their doing and is very active in building a team around him. Perfect timing this is his third year and this is when most QBs have adjusted to the NFL game and are ready to go. So to all the people out there that are done with Geno, including me (for whatever reason) he is getting a vote of confidence from a HOF HC and the very same HC that got us one game from a SB. If he can give Geno a vote of confidence and another chance, then I think we can also!

 

[jets82]

If by no one you mean David Nelson and Stephen Hill...dont let any Geno haters think they're no ones...lets keep it our secret...some people think they were good enough to win with...probably the same people till this day wish they knew how Idzik's plan would have worked out. My point is, if they're not smart enough to figure out Geno has been playing with community college talent, selected by a complete idiot GM, then ignorance and bliss and let them stay in their state of euphoria.

This is my state of euphoria

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College community players, that is VERY FUNNY but very true. LMAO!

 

[Mainejet]

Sounded to me like Parcells feels Geno wasn't coached well, wasn't put in a system for him to be successful and wasn't given the right weapons..... Let's For those that said Parcells would have tossed Geno out of he was the coach and as a commentator he is being nice. Nobody turned the ball over more than Vinny Testaverde back in the day and look what he did under Parcells. And let's not forget what Parcells did with Ray Lucas...and remember he signed and developed Tony Romo and undrafted Free agent!! If you guys don't think Geno was A) thrown in to so (Thanks Idzik) and B) developed poorly, just like Sanchez ( Thanks Rex) and I like Rex a lot, you are kidding yourself... The Kid has talent he has shown in the last 4 games of his 1st 2 years that he can play in this league... We need a coach that can develop a QB. Can Bowles do it... IDK but he can't be worse than Rex. I think Gailey can and if Bowles learned anything from Parcells and Arians and Reid.. he will be able to do it.

NONSENSE. That's not what he was saying. What he was saying was that he had a poor supporting cast around in regards to talent. The OL was shaky at best. We had horrid skill position players. The defense would get torched regularly over the top because we had no secondary. The coaching was there. Hell, between Rex Ryan and Marty Mornhinwheg, they had a great cast.

What led to Rex's demise was being purely too agreeable. He would NEVER dare question the actions of John Idzik. He viewed it as though this was his GM, his teammate, and he wasn't going to question him. He was trying to accommodate Woody Johnson's selection to be GM.

The only thing is, the GM SUCKED. Woody Johnson SUCKED for selecting him. And JI went on to cripple this f*cking team. He absolutely squandered 13 picks for crying out loud and left the cupboard absolutely BARE in regards to talent. JI, due to his incompetence, screwed his HC despite his HC being such a team guy.

Then to add insult to injury, Woody Johnson steps in and says, "Wait a minute this team sucks! Who is responsible? It CANNOT be me?! After all, I am the owner! So I am going to fire all of them! That way I can BLAME all of them for my stupidity.

What a place 1 Jets Health must be????:smiley-angry021:

 

[Superman55]

NONSENSE. That's not what he was saying. What he was saying was that he had a poor supporting cast around in regards to talent. The OL was shaky at best. We had horrid skill position players. The defense would get torched regularly over the top because we had no secondary. The coaching was there. Hell, between Rex Ryan and Marty Mornhinwheg, they had a great cast.

What led to Rex's demise was being purely too agreeable. He would NEVER dare question the actions of John Idzik. He viewed it as though this was his GM, his teammate, and he wasn't going to question him. He was trying to accommodate Woody Johnson's selection to be GM.

The only thing is, the GM SUCKED. Woody Johnson SUCKED for selecting him. And JI went on to cripple this f*cking team. He absolutely squandered 13 picks for crying out loud and left the cupboard absolutely BARE in regards to talent. JI, due to his incompetence, screwed his HC despite his HC being such a team guy.

Then to add insult to injury, Woody Johnson steps in and says, "Wait a minute this team sucks! Who is responsible? It CANNOT be me?! After all, I am the owner! So I am going to fire all of them! That way I can BLAME all of them for my stupidity.

What a place 1 Jets Health must be????:smiley-angry021:

100% correct. Rex made is own fair share of mistakes; I mena seriously, his team WAS NEVER ready to play after the bye week, was completely undisciplined, and didnt step up to the challenge too many times in my eyes...so it was okay to see him go, IMO; however, i seriously think with the secondary we have now, last year's team would have won 8-9 games...but idzik didnt get him the horses. rex asked for horses and received snails.

...and idzik had 20 draft picks and 55 mill in cap room when the cap was MUCH smaller...and used those resources to create a 4 win team...he was the worst hire we've had since Kotite...worse than Bradway...that's saying something.

 

[jets82]

NONSENSE. That's not what he was saying. What he was saying was that he had a poor supporting cast around in regards to talent. The OL was shaky at best. We had horrid skill position players. The defense would get torched regularly over the top because we had no secondary. The coaching was there. Hell, between Rex Ryan and Marty Mornhinwheg, they had a great cast.

What led to Rex's demise was being purely too agreeable. He would NEVER dare question the actions of John Idzik. He viewed it as though this was his GM, his teammate, and he wasn't going to question him. He was trying to accommodate Woody Johnson's selection to be GM.

The only thing is, the GM SUCKED. Woody Johnson SUCKED for selecting him. And JI went on to cripple this f*cking team. He absolutely squandered 13 picks for crying out loud and left the cupboard absolutely BARE in regards to talent. JI, due to his incompetence, screwed his HC despite his HC being such a team guy.

Then to add insult to injury, Woody Johnson steps in and says, "Wait a minute this team sucks! Who is responsible? It CANNOT be me?! After all, I am the owner! So I am going to fire all of them! That way I can BLAME all of them for my stupidity.

What a place 1 Jets Health must be????:smiley-angry021:

Really, are you serious? Unless I'm reading this wrong are you saying this isn't Rex fault but all on Idzik and Woody? Lets not forget about the 4 years prior to Idzik being here Rex and Woody destroyed the team. Idzik is totally to blame I will agree but he was only here two years. Rex is just as guilty if not even more, he was here 6 years and 4 years without Idzik. Are you telling me the team was solid before Idzik got here? PLEASE tell me your not saying that! They both deserved to go and I'm HAPPY AS HELL THEY ARE GONE!

 

[Superman55]

Really, are you serious? Unless I'm reading this wrong are you saying this isn't Rex fault but all on Idzik and Woody? Lets not forget about the 4 years prior to Idzik being here Rex and Woody destroyed the team. Idzik is totally to blame I will agree but he was only here two years. Rex is just as guilty if not even more, he was here 6 years and 4 years without Idzik. Are you telling me the team was solid before Idzik got here? PLEASE tell me your not saying that! They both deserved to go and I'm HAPPY AS HELL THEY ARE GONE!

those two things are not tied together.

First off, to answer the first question, " Are you telling me the team was solid before Idzik got here?"

I would say the answer to that is yes and we were 1 QB short of being special. before Idzik we still had Revis, Cro, Holmes, Keller, Wilkerson, Harrison, harris, Coples, Pace, and Kerley and just put LT to pasture at RB. We needed a #2 WR, and a #1 QB and #1 RB, and some oline help and this team was cooking when the keys were handed to Idzik. We had won 9, 10, 8 and then 6 games...but had a solid foundation, IMO.

I also will always laugh when people say "but idzik got us out of cap hell." Wow, he cut Sanchez, Holmes, and traded Revis and cut Cro...any idiot could have done that...and an idiot did it. Why do you find that impressive? get rid of talent and dont replace it...not a hard way to cut costs...

As for the second part of what you said, "They both deserved to go and I'm HAPPY AS HELL THEY ARE GONE!" This is also 100% true, though I believe rex may be a successful HC someplace else, Idzik will never be a successful GM or even get a shot again he failed so bad here. Rex was a piss poor evaluator of his team and players and is too undisciplined as a person to lead a disciplined team. I do think he's an amazing d-minded coach, and I think he will continue to be successful basedon being the best at what he does...coach D...but he also deserved to go.

But not getting a #2 WR, or any CBs, during his time here when they kept being shoved in his face with people saying, "Hey John, you boob, you need one of these," and him thinking Stephen Hill and Dimitri Patterson were NFL relaible, starting caliber players, led to his own demise.

If he actually attended free agent visits to meet players when they came to visit the Jets, maybe we would have landed 1-2 pieces that would have saved him and rex, but he doomed them both, and they both are on to new ventures...good for them, but especially good for us. We needed a flush and got one.

 

[Mainejet]

Really, are you serious? Unless I'm reading this wrong are you saying this isn't Rex fault but all on Idzik and Woody? Lets not forget about the 4 years prior to Idzik being here Rex and Woody destroyed the team. Idzik is totally to blame I will agree but he was only here two years. Rex is just as guilty if not even more, he was here 6 years and 4 years without Idzik. Are you telling me the team was solid before Idzik got here? PLEASE tell me your not saying that! They both deserved to go and I'm HAPPY AS HELL THEY ARE GONE!

WHHHHAAAAAT?! Oh, OK, so before John Idzik there was no GM, right? Or maybe Rex and Woody collectively acted as the GM?

MIKE TANNENBAUM was the GM here before John Idzik and he was also FIRED for a reason. He ALSO left the cupboard bare in regards to talent. Cut Faneca, Allowed Woody to retire with no viable replacement for him, Signed Tim F*CKING Tebow, Resigned Mark F*CKING Sanchez to a contract. Let Braylon Edwards walk. Even worse he drafted players like Vlad Ducasse, Joe McKnight, Vernon Gholston, Stephen Hill, Anthony Schlegel among others.

He completely screwed this team and he got fired for a reason. And just for your information.... It's the GM that acquires players and drafts them, NOT the HC.

Rex coached the team he was given, and he was NEVER given anything better than sh*t from 2011 on.

 

[Superman55]

WHHHHAAAAAT?! Oh, OK, so before John Idzik there was no GM, right? Or maybe Rex and Woody collectively acted as the GM?

MIKE TANNENBAUM was the GM here before John Idzik and he was also FIRED for a reason. He ALSO left the cupboard bare in regards to talent. Cut Faneca, Allowed Woody to retire with no viable replacement for him, Signed Tim F*CKING Tebow, Resigned Mark F*CKING Sanchez to a contract. Let Braylon Edwards walk. Even worse he drafted players like Vlad Ducasse, Joe McKnight, Vernon Gholston, Stephen Hill, Anthony Schlegel among others.

He completely screwed this team and he got fired for a reason. And just for your information.... It's the GM that acquires players and drafts them, NOT the HC.

Rex coached the team he was given, and he was NEVER given anything better than sh*t from 2011 on.

Hard to agree the cupboards were bare when Mike T drafted Revis, Wilkerson, Kerley, Mangold, Brick, Keller, Harris, Davis, and brought in Holmes and Cromartie...I feel mac came into a much tougher situation than idzik; who again, simply cleared cap space by cutting sanchez, Holmes, and Cro and trading Revis...

 

[Mainejet]

Hard to agree the cupboards were bare when Mike T drafted Revis, Wilkerson, Kerley, Mangold, Brick, Keller, Harris, Davis, and brought in Holmes and Cromartie...I feel mac came into a much tougher situation than idzik; who again, simply cleared cap space by cutting sanchez, Holmes, and Cro and trading Revis...

OK, so point out all of the studs this team had on offense in 2011? 2012? 2013? 2014?

 

[rxd]

Mr T really slipped at the end of his run but Idziot was just freaking horrible. Rex had no chance with the team Idziot put together. I wish him luck, except when he plays the Jets...

 

[jets82]

those two things are not tied together.

First off, to answer the first question, " Are you telling me the team was solid before Idzik got here?"

I would say the answer to that is yes and we were 1 QB short of being special. before Idzik we still had Revis, Cro, Holmes, Keller, Wilkerson, Harrison, harris, Coples, Pace, and Kerley and just put LT to pasture at RB. We needed a #2 WR, and a #1 QB and #1 RB, and some oline help and this team was cooking when the keys were handed to Idzik. We had won 9, 10, 8 and then 6 games...but had a solid foundation, IMO.

I also will always laugh when people say "but idzik got us out of cap hell." Wow, he cut Sanchez, Holmes, and traded Revis and cut Cro...any idiot could have done that...and an idiot did it. Why do you find that impressive? get rid of talent and dont replace it...not a hard way to cut costs...

As for the second part of what you said, "They both deserved to go and I'm HAPPY AS HELL THEY ARE GONE!" This is also 100% true, though I believe rex may be a successful HC someplace else, Idzik will never be a successful GM or even get a shot again he failed so bad here. Rex was a piss poor evaluator of his team and players and is too undisciplined as a person to lead a disciplined team. I do think he's an amazing d-minded coach, and I think he will continue to be successful basedon being the best at what he does...coach D...but he also deserved to go.

But not getting a #2 WR, or any CBs, during his time here when they kept being shoved in his face with people saying, "Hey John, you boob, you need one of these," and him thinking Stephen Hill and Dimitri Patterson were NFL relaible, starting caliber players, led to his own demise.

If he actually attended free agent visits to meet players when they came to visit the Jets, maybe we would have landed 1-2 pieces that would have saved him and rex, but he doomed them both, and they both are on to new ventures...good for them, but especially good for us. We needed a flush and got one.

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Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Before Idzik got here Rex and Tanny killed this team with the additions and subtractions they made. Losing two straight seasons wasn't the issues. It was the way they shreaded this team that was the issue. Getting rid if key players and replacing them with garbage like Holmes, Plax and Mason for example.

Then you have the fact that Rex was loved by Tanny and Woody at that time and gave him whatever he wanted. Now when Idzik got here it seemed to be different and it was the Idzik and Woody show. So Idzik did his part in ruining this team but Rex is just as guilty and I wanted him fired when Tanny was but that's just me, I guess.

 

[jets82]

WHHHHAAAAAT?! Oh, OK, so before John Idzik there was no GM, right? Or maybe Rex and Woody collectively acted as the GM?

MIKE TANNENBAUM was the GM here before John Idzik and he was also FIRED for a reason. He ALSO left the cupboard bare in regards to talent. Cut Faneca, Allowed Woody to retire with no viable replacement for him, Signed Tim F*CKING Tebow, Resigned Mark F*CKING Sanchez to a contract. Let Braylon Edwards walk. Even worse he drafted players like Vlad Ducasse, Joe McKnight, Vernon Gholston, Stephen Hill, Anthony Schlegel among others.

He completely screwed this team and he got fired for a reason. And just for your information.... It's the GM that acquires players and drafts them, NOT the HC.

Rex coached the team he was given, and he was NEVER given anything better than sh*t from 2011 on.

I have the same response for you as I gave the other poster 55. Rex had all the leverage with Tanny before Idzik got here, so those moves are on him just as much as they are on Tanny. Rex should have been fired when Tanny was.

 

[Superman55]

Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Before Idzik got here Rex and Tanny killed this team with the additions and subtractions they made. Losing two straight seasons wasn't the issues. It was the way they shreaded this team that was the issue. Getting rid if key players and replacing them with garbage like Holmes, Plax and Mason for example.

Then you have the fact that Rex was loved by Tanny and Woody at that time and gave him whatever he wanted. Now when Idzik got here it seemed to be different and it was the Idzik and Woody show. So Idzik did his part in ruining this team but Rex is just as guilty and I wanted him fired when Tanny was but that's just me, I guess.

Did the jets have2 losing seasons in a row?

 

[Superman55]

I have the same response for you as I gave the other poster 55. Rex had all the leverage with Tanny before Idzik got here, so those moves are on him just as much as they are in Tanny. Rex should have been fired when Tanny was.

When he had one of the best coaching record in jets history? Okay.

 

[jets82]

Did the jets have2 losing seasons in a row?

They had four losing seasons in a row. Let's go through it:

- year one they went 9-7 with a gimmie game from Indy that got them in the playoffs and lost in the AFC championship game. Under Rex and Tanny.
- year two they went 11-5 and lost in the AFC championship game. Under Rex and Tanny.
- year three they didn't make the playoffs and went 8-8 (I believe). Not a losing season as for as record you may argue but no playoffs. Under Rex and Tanny.
- year four they went 6-10 (I believed) and no playoffs. Under Rex and Tanny and Tanny gets fired. Sadly Rex doesn't as well
- year five they went 6-10 again (I believe) and didn't make the playoffs. Under Rex and Idzik.
- year six (this year) they went 4-12 and obviously didn't make the playoffs. Under Rex and Idzik and Rex and Idzik get fired. Thank God!

Anymore questions?

 

[jets82]

When he had one of the best coaching record in jets history? Okay.

What best coaching record in history. Two winning seasons and two losing seasons. That didn't amount to best coaching record and losing those two seasons wasn't the issues. It was how he and Tanny gutted this team with their dumbass moves. That was the issue!

 

[lounap23]

Year 5 Rex and Idzik went 8-8

 

[Superman55]

What best coaching record in history. Two winning seasons and two losing seasons. That didn't amount to best coaching record and losing those two seasons wasn't the issues. It was how he and Tanny gutted this team with their dumbass moves. That was the issue!

In six years as HC, Rex only had 2 losing seAsons. Show me a jets HC that never had 2 losing seasons in a row Nd a 4-2 play-off record. Here's a hint, you won't find one. Rex one of the best HCs the jets have ever had. Careful, your bias is showing. I don't even like Rex, but the jets haven't had many successful HCs, and none as successful as Rex in the last 46 years. Like it or not.