A Quick 4 Round Jets Mock

[Sarge]

ROUND 1
OLB Vic Beasley Clemson
Fast rising up to top 5 on most draft boards, potentially elite edge rusher

ROUND 2
OT Jake Fisher Oregon
Developmental prospect with NFL frame who could eventually start at either OT spot

ROUND 3
RB TJ Yeldon Alabama
Poor man's Eddy Lacy - good all around back who can catch, run, and block

ROUND 4
WR Chris Conley Georgia
Freakish athlete who longterm upside

 

[jetfandreamer]

ROUND 1
OLB Vic Beasley Clemson
Fast rising up to top 5 on most draft boards, potentially elite edge rusher

ROUND 2
OT Jake Fisher Oregon
Developmental prospect with NFL frame who could eventually start at either OT spot

ROUND 3
RB TJ Yeldon Alabama
Poor man's Eddy Lacy - good all around back who can catch, run, and block

ROUND 4
WR Chris Conley Georgia
Freakish athlete who longterm upside

Absolutely love it Sarge....perfect mix and balance of needs...

 

[OCCH]

I'm admittedly not a CFB guy, but the more I read about Beasley the more he's the guy I want.

Other than that, I don't know the names, but I agree with the positions (unless Gurley somehow drops to our #2 -- then I'd flip-flop the middle two rounds) . . .

 

[Jet Setter]

Nice one, SGT.

All real needs and guys who should all be potentially available at the respective picks.

 

[JetScreamer]

Nice mock Sarge. As a Bama fan I really like Yeldon though he gained some weight and looked a step slower this year. I think he ran in the 4.52 range today at his Pro day. Good pass catcher out of the back field.

 

[TurboJet]

ROUND 1
OLB Vic Beasley Clemson
Fast rising up to top 5 on most draft boards, potentially elite edge rusher

ROUND 2
OT Jake Fisher Oregon
Developmental prospect with NFL frame who could eventually start at either OT spot

ROUND 3
RB TJ Yeldon Alabama
Poor man's Eddy Lacy - good all around back who can catch, run, and block

ROUND 4hWR Chris Conley Georgia
Freakish athlete who longterm upside

Good listing of picks Sarge.
I've liked Beasley for a while now; looks downright freakish .
I also like the O-lineman pick; need more youth to develop on the O-line.

 

[jets82]

I can definitely go with this. All needs we have to address as either immediate impact starters, especially LB and o-line or future starters. Although if Mariota is there at #6 are you saying the Jets still pick Beasley? Think it will VERY HARD for the Jets to not draft the QB then.

 

[Jet Setter]

Nice mock Sarge. As a Bama fan I really like Yeldon though he gained some weight and looked a step slower this year. I think he ran in the 4.52 range today at his Pro day. Good pass catcher out of the back field.

I love Yeldon and think he'll be a great pro. He's not screaming fast but has great hands, great vision and an ability to be the versatile load-carrier you want in your lead back. He's rugged enough to handle carries between the tackles. There aren't many possessing his skill set and physicality. I thought he was one of the best RB's on tape in the screen game...he can really catch the ball well. I have watched all the top prospects and I have him just slightly behind Gurley as he's not quite as fast. Of course this is before Gurley's ACL tear.

I don't think Ivory is in the team's plans and have posted on this site that I would not be surprised if he were traded. He has hands of stone and really doesn't complement what Gailey tries to run. Seeing the Jets trying to get Helu (after signing Powell) gives me more reason to believe this although I could be wrong. Time will tell.
Either way, I think they will seriously look at this strong RB draft class with so many needs having been filled in FA. Yeldon is at the top of my list but there are a bunch of good RB's to select from this year.

 

[Jet Setter]

I can definitely go with this. All needs we have to address as either immediate impact starters, especially LB and o-line or future starters. Although if Mariota is there at #6 are you saying the Jets still pick Beasley? Think it will VERY HARD for the Jets to not draft the QB then.

Absolutely. Look around and listen to the chatter. Many are adamant to pass on this kid who will take years to develop. Never having played under center, needing to learn footwork, never even led a huddle, hasn't played in a pro-style offense...he will be learning the game from scratch as Geno did. Your talking two years minimum of development. And what has he really shown? Aside from his ridiculously easy college offense? Have you seen him when defenses take away this gimmicky offense? He looks very average.
Heck, Geno also had great stats in college - threw for 42 TD's and 6 INT's but he wasn't ready for the pro-style offense either. He got thrown into the wolves and has at least learned game speed, drop-steps, minimal defense reading without showing a tendency to hide in the pocket. I'd say Geno is light years ahead of Mariota and no worse in talent outside of being a little slower.

I see about 50% still clinging to the thought that the Jets will certainly pick Mariota if available. I say the real likelihood is about 5%. Mariota is going to free-fall on draft day. He's not that good.

 

[jets82]

Absolutely. Look around and listen to the chatter. Many are adamant to pass on this kid who will take years to develop. Never having played under center, needing to learn footwork, never even led a huddle, hasn't played in a pro-style offense...he will be learning the game from scratch as Geno did. Your talking two years minimum of development. And what has he really shown? Aside from his ridiculously easy college offense? Have you seen him when defenses take away this gimmicky offense? He looks very average.
Heck, Geno also had great stats in college - threw for 42 TD's and 6 INT's but he wasn't ready for the pro-style offense either. He got thrown into the wolves and has at least learned game speed, drop-steps, minimal defense reading without showing a tendency to hide in the pocket. I'd say Geno is light years ahead of Mariota and no worse in talent outside of being a little slower.

I see about 50% still clinging to the thought that the Jets will certainly pick Mariota if available. I say the real likelihood is about 5%. Mariota is going to free-fall on draft day. He's not that good.

Seems to me like your holding out a little faith in Geno or at least some hope that he has finally developed and ready to be a true QB in his third year. Not only are you saying we shouldn't draft Mariota regardless but I don't see you having us draft any QB period in the first 4 rounds. If that's the case I believe all the top 5-6 QBs will be drafted by then. So come round five what QB will be left to draft and will they have a chance in hell of beating out Geno or Fitzgerald?

Listen I get it, the QB poll is very weak beside Winston (obviously) and Mariota (arguably) but I thought we all or majority of us have given up on Geno and had no choice but to draft Mariota or one of the QBs ranked in the top 5-6 before round 4. According to what your saying, you don't think so and seems you think were OK with Geno for at least one more year. Am I correct in my thinking here?

 

[Jet Setter]

Seems to me like your holding out a little faith in Geno or at least some hope that he has finally developed and ready to be a true QB in his third year. Not only are you saying we shouldn't draft Mariota regardless but I don't see you having us draft any QB period in the first 4 rounds. If that's the case I believe all the top 5-6 QBs will be drafted by then. So come round five what QB will be left to draft and will they have a chance in hell of beating out Geno or Fitzgerald?

Listen I get it, the QB poll is very weak beside Winston (obviously) and Mariota (arguably) but I thought we all or majority of us have given up on Geno and had no choice but to draft Mariota or one of the QBs ranked in the top 5-6 before round 4. According to what your saying, you don't think so and seems you think were OK with Geno for at least one more year. Am I correct in my thinking here?

First of all, I wouldn't draft a single QB this year. I think it's a dreadful QB class and I don't like a single one outside of Winston.
There were times I've been frustrated with Geno but no one can deny a few things. He HAS shown an ability to play well at this level and he has had very little support in development of his skills.
Couple that with the cold fact that no QB's are available and you really have no choice but to go in this direction. Build the team into the best it can be and give yourself the best chance to better develop Geno. If it doesn't work, continue looking next year.

I think game management with a balanced offense trumps these top-flight QB's who predictably pass 35-40 times a game every time when it comes to the playoffs. I don't think Russell Wilson or Joe Flacco do anything that special except manage the game well and make a few plays when needed. They don't get in the way of the team concept. I'm certain they can mold Geno into such a comparable QB. It may be his ceiling but that can be plenty. Minimize mistakes, know the offense well with help from Fitz with better preparation, and lean on the other facets of the team. This defense is going to be lights out. The offense is already far more balanced and the spread offense should suit Geno's skillset well. Until a better QB option comes along, this is what we have. Continue building all positions in the meantime with better talent and backups to boot.

 

[jets82]

Wow, I hate to agree with you but I guess I have to. Don't know anything about any of the other QBs except Winston and Mariota. Winston is a no drainer he's ready day one. Mariota I was very skeptical about but my frustration with Geno I was willing to draft Mariota and move on. At least put Mariota and Geno in competition and see what happens. What I'm really pissed at is the phila trade falling through with Foles and the multiple draft picks.

Anyway, so here we are stuck with Geno and only can hope he has developed enough to help this team. We all can see if this team keeps building the way they are in FA, plus you add in the draft picks they will be ready to make the playoffs this year. Only question is can the QB hold his own and not mess it up? Guess well see because Geno scares the shit out of me. I'm very hopeful he is ready and your right, he has shown flashes but shown more flashes if the negative also. I'm just hoping he steps up because I want Fitzgerald being that insurance policy just in case and not what were depending on period.

 

[Jet Setter]

Wow, I hate to agree with you but I guess I have to. Don't know anything about any of the other QBs except Winston and Mariota. Winston is a no drainer he's ready day one. Mariota I was very skeptical about but my frustration with Geno I was willing to draft Mariota and move on. At least put Mariota and Geno in competition and see what happens. What I'm really pissed at is the phila trade falling through with Foles and the multiple draft picks.

Anyway, so here we are stuck with Geno and only can hope he has developed enough to help this team. We all can see if this team keeps building the way they are in FA, plus you add in the draft picks they will be ready to make the playoffs this year. Only question is can the QB hold his own and not mess it up? Guess well see because Geno scares the shit out of me. I'm very hopeful he is ready and your right, he has shown flashes but shown more flashes if the negative also. I'm just hoping he steps up because I want Fitzgerald being that insurance policy just in case and not what were depending on period.

It's just my opinion, nothing more. I would encourage you not to be swayed but what I say or anyone else for that matter. Take a look at the game film yourself and draw your own conclusions. www.draftbreakdown.com shows full games of all prospects play by play and it gives you a better idea of the prospect's game overall.
After watching all the top pass rush prospects, I liked Odighizuwa as much as I did the top prospects in Gregory, Fowler and Beasley. At the same time, I found Shane Ray to be choppy, one-directional with lateral movement lacking. I think he has attained his sacks from his overall strength and pursuit. His strength may not overwhelm pro OT's and I think his limited athleticism will keep him from being a high sack guy. Just my opinion.
And I formed my opinions on watching the QB's as well - all of them. I encourage you to do the same. You'll probably have differing conclusions from mine, or not.

In seeing this last year, I felt that Beckham was far and away the best prospect at WR. I think the tape is very telling. He had the best combination of route running and suddenness with an uncanny ability to high-point the ball. Great athleticism and hops and always was around the ball.
I love Amari Cooper at WR but not White. I love Winston but not Mariota.
But I digress. Take a look when you get a chance.

 

[NickSINYC]

ROUND 1
OLB Vic Beasley Clemson
Fast rising up to top 5 on most draft boards, potentially elite edge rusher

ROUND 2
OT Jake Fisher Oregon
Developmental prospect with NFL frame who could eventually start at either OT spot

ROUND 3
RB TJ Yeldon Alabama
Poor man's Eddy Lacy - good all around back who can catch, run, and block

ROUND 4
WR Chris Conley Georgia
Freakish athlete who longterm upside

I have no argument with any of the players chosen my problem is I just don't see our new GM not taking a shot at a QB somewhere in the top 4 picks.

 

[Jet Setter]

I have no argument with any of the players chosen my problem is I just don't see our new GM not taking a shot at a QB somewhere in the top 4 picks.

I do. Who's worthy of a pick this year? Have you watched the 2nd-tier and below of QB's in this draft class? It's dreadful. A wasted pick.

And why does nearly everyone want to bring in another young QB when you're trying to groom Geno? Isn't that counter-productive? Now half the reps are split thereby regressing development of either prospect?
I don't see the logic.

 

[NickSINYC]

I do. Who's worthy of a pick this year? Have you watched the 2nd-tier and below of QB's in this draft class? It's dreadful. A wasted pick.

And why does nearly everyone want to bring in another young QB when you're trying to groom Geno? Isn't that counter-productive? Now half the reps are split thereby regressing development of either prospect?
I don't see the logic.

I think Petty, Mannion and Bennett are worth a flyer in the right spot.

I think Fitz is the day one stater and Geno will be learning from the sideline so no I do not think it is counter productive to have another young QB also learning while he sits. It doubles are chances of hitting on one of them.

 

[nycdan]

I do. Who's worthy of a pick this year? Have you watched the 2nd-tier and below of QB's in this draft class? It's dreadful. A wasted pick.

And why does nearly everyone want to bring in another young QB when you're trying to groom Geno? Isn't that counter-productive? Now half the reps are split thereby regressing development of either prospect?
I don't see the logic.

I'm not trying to groom Geno. After two years of piss poor play with at most a handful of exceptions, I'm looking for his replacement. He gets to compete this pre-season and maybe grab the job with both hands, but 'grooming' implies he's the guy and I don't think he's earned that.

 

[hobson54]

1 - Randy Gregory - OLB
2 - Todd Gurley - RB
3 - Cedrick Ogbuehi - OT
4 - Tyler Lockett - WR/KR

 

[Jet Setter]

I'm not trying to groom Geno. After two years of piss poor play with at most a handful of exceptions, I'm looking for his replacement. He gets to compete this pre-season and maybe grab the job with both hands, but 'grooming' implies he's the guy and I don't think he's earned that.

I can understand this angle.

 

[Jet Setter]

1 - Randy Gregory - OLB
2 - Todd Gurley - RB
3 - Cedrick Ogbuehi - OT
4 - Tyler Lockett - WR/KR

I like it a lot. Could very well happen although I don't see Lockett getting to the 4th. It would be a coup to get Ogbuehi but I think they pass and get the weapons that are needed this year so I'm going a little different:

1. Vic Beasley - OLB
2. Phillip Dorsett - WR
3. TJ Yeldon - RB
4. Ben Heeney - ILB