A Quick 4 Round Jets Mock

Sarge

Pro Bowl 1st Team
Jet Fanatics
I'd be okay with Gregory, Fowler, or Beasley at #6 in addition to Mariotta if he's there and the 2 WRS

Worst case scenario, having these 4 as your WR rotation:

Decker, Marshall, Kerley, Cooper
 

Pointdexter

Pro Bowl Alternate
Jet Fanatics
1 - Randy Gregory - OLB
2 - Todd Gurley - RB
3 - Cedrick Ogbuehi - OT
4 - Tyler Lockett - WR/KR

I would sign off on that right now, no question. I probably sub in Beasley for Gregory but that is nitpicking.

The big question mark is what do we do to address QB? Fitz and Geno aren't leading us where we want to go, ultimately. I think we have to bring in one of the big four rookies (Mariota, Petty, Hundley, Grayson). Have to.

Other than that, I would be giddy over this draft.
 

Pointdexter

Pro Bowl Alternate
Jet Fanatics
Who knows, the more I think about it, I might roll the dice on Mannion in the 5th round and take that bounty of peripheral talent you proposed and run.
 

hobson54

Transition Tagged
Jet Fanatics
I would sign off on that right now, no question. I probably sub in Beasley for Gregory but that is nitpicking.

The big question mark is what do we do to address QB? Fitz and Geno aren't leading us where we want to go, ultimately. I think we have to bring in one of the big four rookies (Mariota, Petty, Hundley, Grayson). Have to.

Other than that, I would be giddy over this draft.


well assuming mariota is off the board at #6 , i'm not so sure i'd take a QB over the other picks i made. i understand the need to find a franchise QB, but you can't force the pick. i can't say i know enough about the non-winston/mariota QBs in this draft, but it seems like non really project to great (or even quality) nfl starters. we have geno and fitz, so we don't need to force a QB pick. give them both a year in gailey's offense, and if geno doesn't step up, look for a QB next year and keep fitz around as a hold the fort guy. in the mean time, load up on weapons and bolster the o-line, making it easier for a QB down the road to step in (if geno flops again).
 

lounap23

Legend
Jet Fanatics
I do. Who's worthy of a pick this year? Have you watched the 2nd-tier and below of QB's in this draft class? It's dreadful. A wasted pick.

And why does nearly everyone want to bring in another young QB when you're trying to groom Geno? Isn't that counter-productive? Now half the reps are split thereby regressing development of either prospect?
I don't see the logic.


Have you watched the 2nd Tier QB's there are 3-4 guys that have the make up to be good NFL QB's with the right coaching and development time....

1. Garret Grayson
2. Sean Mannion
3. Bryce Petty
4. Shane Carden


When you don't have a franchise QB you draft a QB every year till you find one....
Just A Reminder:

Tom Brady 6th Rd and let me add a 6th rd Compensatory pick
Russell Wilson 3rd Rd
Tony Romo Undrafted
Dree Brees 2nd rd pick

Never know where they Franchise QB is gonna come from when you don't have one and when you don't have one you keep swinging in whatever RD....

List goes on
 

Green Jets & Ham

King Of All Draftniks
Jet Fanatics
I like it Sarge, but I think it would be Conoly in the 3rd and Yeldon in the 4th (nitpicking).

Its interesting that you have Fisher going so early in RD 2, most people don't, but I think you might be onto something there, Fisher is a lot better than his consensus projections are indicating and I can see him going higher than expected.
 

Pointdexter

Pro Bowl Alternate
Jet Fanatics
Hobson,

I agree that we shouldn't take a QB at 6 unless it's Mariota. After that though I think it will be important to take one of the other 3. Have to roll the dice in round 2 or 3. (although i do think Gurley would be too good to pass up in round 2 if there).

I just don't think we can afford to say "wait til next year" any longer for our QB development.
 
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Jet Setter

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Have you watched the 2nd Tier QB's there are 3-4 guys that have the make up to be good NFL QB's with the right coaching and development time....

1. Garret Grayson
2. Sean Mannion
3. Bryce Petty
4. Shane Carden


When you don't have a franchise QB you draft a QB every year till you find one....
Just A Reminder:

Tom Brady 6th Rd and let me add a 6th rd Compensatory pick
Russell Wilson 3rd Rd
Tony Romo Undrafted
Dree Brees 2nd rd pick

Never know where they Franchise QB is gonna come from when you don't have one and when you don't have one you keep swinging in whatever RD....

List goes on

Yeah, I have. And translating Petty into the pros is very similar to Mariota. Live arm but such a project playing at Baylor. Mannion can sling it but mostly to the other teams. Grayson is considered the best of these guys and I thought he was just dreadful much of the time. And I wouldn't take on Carden as an UDFA. That's just me.
I can understand the desire to take on one of these guys as projects but with limited picks and a young guy in place, I wouldn't do it. TBaum subscribed to your thinking but I don't. To gamble for the sake of gambling....no. If there's a prospect you feel strongly about, yes. I don't like this crop.
 

jets82

Curious George
Jet Fanatics
It's just my opinion, nothing more. I would encourage you not to be swayed but what I say or anyone else for that matter. Take a look at the game film yourself and draw your own conclusions. www.draftbreakdown.com shows full games of all prospects play by play and it gives you a better idea of the prospect's game overall.
After watching all the top pass rush prospects, I liked Odighizuwa as much as I did the top prospects in Gregory, Fowler and Beasley. At the same time, I found Shane Ray to be choppy, one-directional with lateral movement lacking. I think he has attained his sacks from his overall strength and pursuit. His strength may not overwhelm pro OT's and I think his limited athleticism will keep him from being a high sack guy. Just my opinion.
And I formed my opinions on watching the QB's as well - all of them. I encourage you to do the same. You'll probably have differing conclusions from mine, or not.

In seeing this last year, I felt that Beckham was far and away the best prospect at WR. I think the tape is very telling. He had the best combination of route running and suddenness with an uncanny ability to high-point the ball. Great athleticism and hops and always was around the ball.
I love Amari Cooper at WR but not White. I love Winston but not Mariota.
But I digress. Take a look when you get a chance.
TRUST ME, I wasn't taking your word or anyone else's on this board as the final say or in swaying me but I'm not a college guy so I don't know enough of any of these kids. I've watched Mariota and Winston a few times and I can see Winston is the shit. Mariota worries me but I can see if he's put in the right situation that gives him time to develop whether that's on or off the field, he can develop to being a excellent QB. Geno on the other hand didn't have that time to develop nor did he have a team that could help him develop on the field. So I'm willing to give Geno one more year to show me something good and consistent under this new regime that has a clue and with players that can truly help him. Who knows, he may turn out to be the answer to our question here! Those other QBs I never watched period so it was impossible for me to comment on any of this. Thanks for the link and I will definitely take a look.
 

atmorrisjr

Day 1 Prospect
Jet Fanatics
ROUND 1
OLB Vic Beasley Clemson
Fast rising up to top 5 on most draft boards, potentially elite edge rusher

ROUND 2
OT Jake Fisher Oregon
Developmental prospect with NFL frame who could eventually start at either OT spot

ROUND 3
RB TJ Yeldon Alabama
Poor man's Eddy Lacy - good all around back who can catch, run, and block

ROUND 4
WR Chris Conley Georgia
Freakish athlete who longterm upside

This would not break my heart.....and that would be a NEW feeling...
 

lounap23

Legend
Jet Fanatics
Yeah, I have. And translating Petty into the pros is very similar to Mariota. Live arm but such a project playing at Baylor. Mannion can sling it but mostly to the other teams. Grayson is considered the best of these guys and I thought he was just dreadful much of the time. And I wouldn't take on Carden as an UDFA. That's just me.
I can understand the desire to take on one of these guys as projects but with limited picks and a young guy in place, I wouldn't do it. TBaum subscribed to your thinking but I don't. To gamble for the sake of gambling....no. If there's a prospect you feel strongly about, yes. I don't like this crop.

No question all of these guys are developmental guys.... I think we are young enough everywhere that using one of our 6 picks (1,2,3,4, 7, 7) not that limited... on a QB isn't gonna hurt... We need depth at OLB and OL.. and we need a QB.. Personally If I am drafting our 6 picks would go like this:

1st rd (if Mariota is gone)Pass rusher Gregson or Fowler (If Mariota is there trade down and get more picks)
2nd rd - WR Philip Dorest need some speed there
3rd Rd - QB Bryce Petty, Carden, Sean Mannion or Grayson.. whichever one is there. I think they all have the makeup to develop into an NFL QB over 2 years
4th Rd - G Josue Matias Fl St
7th Rd - OT Corey Robinson South Carolina
7th Rd - OT Terry Poole - San Diego St

I watch a lot of College football LOL Oh and your comment on Carden.. I think your way off... I love that kid... I do see him dropping to 4th or 5th rd. But this kid has all the moxie of a winning QB.. Live arm, good pocket presence.. His mechanics need a lil work but I feel like this kid is gonna be the steal of the draft.. JMHO!!
 
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Mainejet

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I hate it for the simple fact there's no QB. QB is the root cause of ALL of the ills with this offense. In a QB driven league, if you do not have one, you do not have a season.

I would replace Vic Beasley for Marcus Mariota or a trade down into the 2nd round and grabbing a QB at the end of the 1st, early 2nd round, Using the extra picks to grab other needs like more OL help or a LB.
 

cysporsche

Pro Bowl 1st Team
Jet Fanatics
6) Amari Cooper WR 6'1"/210 - Tide. Here's a chance to get a young fast clean kid, no trouble gym rat type. Marshall is no spring chicken. Julio Jones Jr..

37) Eli Harold OLB 6'4"/240 - UVA. He's a hair below Fowler & Gregory, but just as good as Beasley in the ACC, plus Virginia runs a 3-4 D.

70) Cody Prewitt FS 6'2"/215 - Ole Miss. One of the best FS in College football. If we sign Cromartie as a FS then draft my boy from W-F Kevin White CB.

101) Nate Orchard DE/OLB/ILB 6'3"/252 - Utah. This kid will replace Harris next year. We need versatile LB's with speed & bulk.

5) Traded Brandon Marshall

6) Traded for Percy Harvin

7A (198) Ali Marpet G 6'4"/315 - Hobart. Small College animal. He beat up the big boys in bowl game.

7B (199) Justin Manton P 6'3"/198 - Louisiana-Monroe. It might be time for a new punter

Go Jets...Cyborg
 
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