Is Perriman the new top dog at WR?

Superman55

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
Well, despite all the doubters...just like with Moncreif last year...I still really want the kid and think he's going to be a star his second season in the league (just like Moncreif is about to be...if that 60 yard TD catch to put a nail in the Broncos coffin at Mile High wasnt enough)...this guy is in that mold. Is he raw? Yes...so was this kid Josh Gordon heading into the supplemental draft. There's a lot more Moncreif and Josh Gordon in Perriman than Stephen Hill. Hill only caught like 29 passes his entire college career after playing soccer his entire life. Perriman is the son of an NFL wr that played football his entire life. Put him with Decker and Marshall and mold him into a star...well, someone else has that idea too...

Lions bring Breshad Perriman in for a pre-draft visit

Posted by Darin Gantt on April 1, 2015, 11:01 AM EDT
Breshad Perriman
AP
The Lions have perhaps the game’s best big target at wide receiver.

Now they’re taking a look at a guy who could knock the top out of any defense to make even more room for him.

According to Tim Twentyman of the team’s official website, the Lions have Central Florida wideout Breshad Perriman in for a pre-draft visit today.

Perriman would be intriguing to Lions fans anyway, since his father Brett played for them from 1991-96.

But the younger version caught everyone’s eye at his pro day, when he ran his 40-yard dashes in blazing times, with the slowest a 4.27.

“I kind of expected to run that fast,” Perriman said.

His speed is even more tantalizing considering he’s 6-foot-3 and 215 pounds. And the Lions have bigger needs than another wideout with the 23rd pick in the draft.

But the idea of putting another big-time weapon alongside Calvin Johnson’s an intriguing notion, especially considering the raw ability Perriman has shown.
 

Superman55

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
I still think the Jets are most likely to trade down...and man if we trade down and get this kid I will be very excited. :)



Breshad Perriman visiting with the Jets today

Posted by Darin Gantt on April 20, 2015, 9:10 AM EDT
Breshad Perriman, Jhavon Williams
AP
The Jets are continuing their perpetual search for offensive weapons by taking a look at one of the fastest guys on the board.

Central Florida wide receiver Breshad Perriman is visiting the Jets today, a league source tells PFT.

Perriman’s not the polished receiver some of the other top prospects this year might be, but he has the kind of top-end speed to make him attractive to many. Putting up a reported 4.19-second 40 at his pro day, along with his 20.9-yard per reception average is going to make him a hot property.

Whether it’s enough to justify the sixth pick is doubtful, but if he falls to the late first or early second round in a deep receiver group, there would be plenty of teams trying to get into position to take him.

He’s also worked out for or visited the Panthers, Bears, Lions, Steelers and Eagles recently.
 

Superman55

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
Breshad Perriman’s tour takes him to Miami

Posted by Mike Florio on April 22, 2015, 8:31 AM EDT
Perriman
Getty Images
Eventually, it’ll be easier to list the teams that haven’t shown interest in receiver Breshad Perriman.

This week alone, Perriman has gone from the Jets on Monday to the Titans on Tuesday to, per a league source, the Dolphins on Wednesday.

Perriman, the son of 10-year NFL receiver Brett Perriman, has drawn interest from the Panthers, Bears, Lions, Steelers, Eagles, and Ravens, among others.

At six feet, three inches, Perriman ran a blazing, sub-4.3-second 40-yard-dash at his Pro Day workout, which at a minimum has prompted plenty of teams to clamor to find out more about him.

You can find out more about him by clicking here, selecting the “Big Name Guest” option, and scrolling down to hear Perriman’s recent appearance on PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio.
 

Pointdexter

Pro Bowl Alternate
Jet Fanatics
An interesting prospect. His natural gate is not as smooth as the other big WR's in the draft. Devante Parker is so smooth with his stride. Green-Beckham is a long strider but looks more smooth as well. Perriman is a bit choppier with his steps, which I wonder if it makes him play slower than his workout times.

Above average body control and high points it well. Seems to have a nice natural feel. The comparisons of him to Stephen Hill couldn't be more off base.

Bottom line: I don't like him before the 2nd round. He has nice potential but doesn't play quite as big or fast as his measurements. I have him behind Cooper, White, Parker, & Green-Beckham. I might prefer Jalen Strong too but I definitely like Perriman's big play ability better, which is probably a better fit for the Jets right now.
 

Superman55

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
An interesting prospect. His natural gate is not as smooth as the other big WR's in the draft. Devante Parker is so smooth with his stride. Green-Beckham is a long strider but looks more smooth as well. Perriman is a bit choppier with his steps, which I wonder if it makes him play slower than his workout times.

Above average body control and high points it well. Seems to have a nice natural feel. The comparisons of him to Stephen Hill couldn't be more off base.

Bottom line: I don't like him before the 2nd round. He has nice potential but doesn't play quite as big or fast as his measurements. I have him behind Cooper, White, Parker, & Green-Beckham. I might prefer Jalen Strong too but I definitely like Perriman's big play ability better, which is probably a better fit for the Jets right now.

Your Stephen Hill reference and bottom line are spot on...but I really like Perriman's long term potential.

One thing I am having a hard time with is Jalen Strong. I like him a lot, but i do feel his ceiling isn't what some of the other guys are; however, I feel he is a "lock" to be an Alshon Jeffery type, which makes saying he doesnt have their ceiling sound crazy when I think he's almost a lock to be Alshon Jeffery...most people would jump at that skill set in 2 seconds.

Im not sure if you agree with the Jeffery comparison, but the kid is so strong and violent with his hands and uses his body so well, he's a 80-90 catch a year guy staring you in the face for an automatic 8 yards when you need it and redzone nightmare...I dont feel he is a second rd talent...but feel fringe rd 1 is where he goes and he ends up being a #1 .
 

Pointdexter

Pro Bowl Alternate
Jet Fanatics
The Alshon comparison is spot-on. He doesn't need to separate because he will box you out for the reception. Just uses his body to shield the defender and snatches everything with his hands, very similar to Alshon.

My only problem with Strong is this is very similar to what we already have with Marshall and Decker.
 

Superman55

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
The Alshon comparison is spot-on. He doesn't need to separate because he will box you out for the reception. Just uses his body to shield the defender and snatches everything with his hands, very similar to Alshon.

My only problem with Strong is this is very similar to what we already have with Marshall and Decker.

Agreed. Was pleasantly surprised by his 4.44 40 at the combine though...a very good time for a "slow" prospect like him. I wont pretend he plays at that speed, as you've already pointed out. I just think whatever team gets him will be very happy, but agree he isn't exactly a fit here.

His damn hands are bear traps and he watches every ball all the way into his hands...and already has an NFL body...amazing prospect, IMO.

 

OCCH

Pro Bowl 1st Team
Jet Fanatics
The Alshon comparison is spot-on. He doesn't need to separate because he will box you out for the reception. Just uses his body to shield the defender and snatches everything with his hands, very similar to Alshon.

My only problem with Strong is this is very similar to what we already have with Marshall and Decker.

I understand the need for "diversity" among the WR corp, but is it really such a bad thing to have "another Marshall/Decker" who's pretty much a Jeffrey clone?

A vertical threat is supposed to stretch the defense, but that wouldn't seem to be as important if you're loaded with guys who will make the catch whether they're "open" or not. Plus, isn't is MUCH easier to grab a speedster in the later rounds than a technically sound one? (Even if the guy can't catch a cold, the defense still has to account for him)

Again, I'm FAR from a CFB guy. But from what I read/hear I'm most sold on Cooper and Strong because they seem to have the best fundamentals, and I'll value that over physical attributes any day . . .
 

Pointdexter

Pro Bowl Alternate
Jet Fanatics
Nope, not bad at all. You're right that a good football player is a good football player, period. That is the most important thing. My only preference is that we find a good football player that adds another dimension to the offense, if possible.

Not an awful thing at all if we add someone like Strong, though. He can play.
 

Superman55

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
Nope, not bad at all. You're right that a good football player is a good football player, period. That is the most important thing. My only preference is that we find a good football player that adds another dimension to the offense, if possible.

Not an awful thing at all if we add someone like Strong, though. He can play.

Watch the video I posted of Strong...as Point pointed out, he's a polished product. He's been a top WR in college the past 2 seasons. The past 2 seasons he has 160 rec, 2400 yards, and 17 TDs...he is with Cooper in terms of the least learning curve.
 

cysporsche

Pro Bowl 1st Team
Jet Fanatics
Coach O'Leary UCF was just interviewed on Sirius NFL, and he said Breshad Perriman's 6'2"/214 numbers are not as high as they should be, because he was playing with a freshman QB who was not very accurate passer. He's still not cracking my top 3 WR's (Cooper, White & Parker).

Go Jets...Cyborg
 

Superman55

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
Coach O'Leary UCF was just interviewed on Sirius NFL, and he said Breshad Perriman's 6'2"/214 numbers are not as high as they should be, because he was playing with a freshman QB who was not very accurate passer. He's still not cracking my top 3 WR's (Cooper, White & Parker).

Go Jets...Cyborg

My list is:

Cooper
White
Perriman
Strong
Dorsett
 

OCCH

Pro Bowl 1st Team
Jet Fanatics
My list is:

Cooper
White
Perriman
Strong
Dorsett

For some reason I thought you liked White over Cooper.

I can't speak from a knowledgeable viewpoint, but from a fan who has been reading this stuff for months, here's my list in order of "excitement" about grabbing a WR early:

1) Cooper in the 1st
2) Strong in the 2nd
3) White in the 1st
4) Agholor in the 2nd
5) Dorsett/Perriman in the 2nd

(Couldn't list Parker anywhere because I don't want him at 6 and there's NO way he's making it to 37)

Please -- disagree! Everything you guys say just gives me more to look forward to a week from now. (I mean c'mon, even your turds know more than those TV guys, right?:smiley-dance017:)
 

Superman55

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
why you so down on parker? i thought he was consensus top 3...top 4 at worst?

Im not down on him, I just like those guys better. I dont have anything "poor" to say about him. He's a clean route runner, but not the deep threat Perriman is, will become, and doesnt have the hands Strong has...but I am seriously splitting hairs here.

I think Cooper can be Reggie Wayne,
I think White can be Andre Johnson,
Greg Cossell calls Perriman a Julio Jones type prospect, for what's that worth
Strong I compare to Alshon Jeffrey
Dorsett I think can be Jeremy Maclin/Djax/SMoss

Parker I also like, but he reminds me of Hopkins WR Texans (remember him at Clemson). I think he's going to be very good, a 1st rd talent, but some of the other WRs have a higher ceiling...he'd probably be #6 on my list.
 

Superman55

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
For some reason I thought you liked White over Cooper.

I can't speak from a knowledgeable viewpoint, but from a fan who has been reading this stuff for months, here's my list in order of "excitement" about grabbing a WR early:

1) Cooper in the 1st
2) Strong in the 2nd
3) White in the 1st
4) Agholor in the 2nd
5) Dorsett/Perriman in the 2nd

(Couldn't list Parker anywhere because I don't want him at 6 and there's NO way he's making it to 37)

Please -- disagree! Everything you guys say just gives me more to look forward to a week from now. (I mean c'mon, even your turds know more than those TV guys, right?:smiley-dance017:)

Well, I do like White a hair more than Cooper, but I think Cooper is more of a sure thing and has less bust potential. Cooper is 6'1, 210, and 20 years old...but 4.4ish 40 (doesnt play as fast as he times). But despite everyone knowing he was a monster, he still shredded SEC defenses weekly, and despite not having 4.3 speed, ran his routes so good it looked like he did.

White is 6'2, 220, 4.29/4.30 40, 40+ vertical, and caught 110 balls last year alone...so he can catch too. He isn't as good a route runner, because he comes from the spread, but the ceiling on him is huge.

I'd love either prospect. Essentially you're asking, do you want a prospect more like Reggie Wayne or Andre Johnson? of course, we have no idea if either will become that good, but if you knew the two ceilings were Wayne and Johnson, which do you prefer? I prefer Johnson because of his redzone effectiveness vs the smaller WR and the elite deep speed (Wayne never had elite speed either)...but if you told me we drafted the next Reggie Wayne in Cooper...id do back flips.

I love how Cooper is built, he has a great lower body, for a guy only 6'1, 210 is a great weight...solid like Boldin. If he can strengthen his upper body to get off the jam, Cooper may be very special.

I also like White pairing with two other big WRs to perfect his craft with Marshall and Decker. Its a 1a and 1b situation, IMO.
 

OCCH

Pro Bowl 1st Team
Jet Fanatics
Well, I do like White a hair more than Cooper, but I think Cooper is more of a sure thing and has less bust potential. Cooper is 6'1, 210, and 20 years old...but 4.4ish 40 (doesnt play as fast as he times). But despite everyone knowing he was a monster, he still shredded SEC defenses weekly, and despite not having 4.3 speed, ran his routes so good it looked like he did.

White is 6'2, 220, 4.29/4.30 40, 40+ vertical, and caught 110 balls last year alone...so he can catch too. He isn't as good a route runner, because he comes from the spread, but the ceiling on him is huge.

I'd love either prospect. Essentially you're asking, do you want a prospect more like Reggie Wayne or Andre Johnson? of course, we have no idea if either will become that good, but if you knew the two ceilings were Wayne and Johnson, which do you prefer? I prefer Johnson because of his redzone effectiveness vs the smaller WR and the elite deep speed (Wayne never had elite speed either)...but if you told me we drafted the next Reggie Wayne in Cooper...id do back flips.

I love how Cooper is built, he has a great lower body, for a guy only 6'1, 210 is a great weight...solid like Boldin. If he can strengthen his upper body to get off the jam, Cooper may be very special.

I also like White pairing with two other big WRs to perfect his craft with Marshall and Decker. Its a 1a and 1b situation, IMO.

You're not concerned White has a smaller sample size of success? (It doesn't appear ANYONE is, but it definitely plays a role in my mind, especially at 6) . . .
 

Superman55

Franchise Tagged
Jet Fanatics
You're not concerned White has a smaller sample size of success? (It doesn't appear ANYONE is, but it definitely plays a role in my mind, especially at 6) . . .

I cant punish a kid for needing to go to a smaller school to build up his GPA and make the transition to division 1.

He had to go to Lackawanna college for 2 years before transferring to WVU. His first year at WVU, he started their last 5 games...and had 35 rec, 500 yards, and 5 TDs in those games...not bad. Then he came back and caught another 100 balls.

Everyones path to success is different, but he wouldnt have made it at WVU without going to Scranton, PA first.
 
Top