Zach Sudfeld Giving Back

[jetfandreamer]

Great article on the kid from Randy Lange..he might be a bubble guy for Jets, but he is a great guy. I talked to him briefly at training camp last year and he was as engaging a kid you would ever meet. Had a smile for everyone, and I kidded him by saying it will be "the year of Zach" he laughed and he fist pumped me and said he liked it. IN a league where you see all the problems and chaos of guys, its good to see this, as well as I know many others doing great things, and under the radar for the most part.

http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/art...f-Africa/ea4bff01-2d21-4e14-9d97-7a14f3a715ac

 

[Superman55]

I just wished he wasn't a 6'7 players that plays like he's 6'0. I'm sick of seeing him be out jumped and muscled by 5'10 CBS that cost us key road games...yes, still bitter Tramon Williams punked him to cost us the game at GB...

He may be a nice guy, but he and Cumberland can both go, IMO.

 

[AFA2017]

I just wished he wasn't a 6'7 players that plays like he's 6'0. I'm sick of seeing him be out jumped and muscled by 5'10 CBS that cost us key road games...yes, still bitter Tramon Williams punked him to cost us the game at GB...

He may be a nice guy, but he and Cumberland can both go, IMO.

Maybe with a Coach like Bowles he can light a fire under his azz!

 

[Superman55]

If you're a professional that needs a fire lit under your ass, especially wheb you are a #3 TE trying to stay on the roster, I don't need ya...it's the same issue Ghokston had. People thought Ryan would light a fire under him, but if at this level you need someone else to put the fire in your belly to be great, then you're in the wrong league, IMO. The privilege to be on an NFL field should be inspiration enough.

 

[AFA2017]

If you're a professional that needs a fire lit under your ass, especially wheb you are a #3 TE trying to stay on the roster, I don't need ya...it's the same issue Ghokston had. People thought Ryan would light a fire under him, but if at this level you need someone else to put the fire in your belly to be great, then you're in the wrong league, IMO. The privilege to be on an NFL field should be inspiration enough.

The difference is that Rex treated you like a "Good Ole Boy". Bowles is "Show me what you got, don't let the door hit you on the azz on your way out"!

 

[flgreen]

Zack is one of the players I'm hoping will have a breakout season this year. He has all the physical skills to be a great TE. When he came to the Jets he was very raw, and a major project. It's possible that with other good receiving options around him, this might be the year the light goes on. Having a decent QB might help of course

 

[Superman55]

The difference is that Rex treated you like a "Good Ole Boy". Bowles is "Show me what you got, don't let the door hit you on the azz on your way out"!

Well, the last 2 season sudfeld has been one of Ryans good Ole boys despite shriveLing up like a little bitch every time a big moment is presented to him. I dont know if Bowles and Gaily have the recipe to solve little bitch disease, but I hope so...because at 6'7 255, the last thing you should look like on the football field is a little bitch. To your point, hopefully they have the cure.

 

[jetfandreamer]

Well, the last 2 season sudfeld has been one of Ryans good Ole boys despite shriveLing up like a little bitch every time a big moment is presented to him. I dont know if Bowles and Gaily have the recipe to solve little bitch disease, but I hope so...because at 6'7 255, the last thing you should look like on the football field is a little bitch. To your point, hopefully they have the cure.

I think Sudfeld is definitely on the roster bubble and has to show something..that being said..he screwed up one play last year that was huge..the aforementioned Green Bay play..and yes..he should have at the very least broke it up, but to blame that game just on him, which some people do is assinine....there was 12 men on field with Harris' interception, the lack of pass defense on 80 yarder to Jordy..the timeout negating a tying TD and even the conservative mindet of Rex at the end of the first half to sit on the ball...

THAT PLAY good breakdown

http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/9/17/6279619/geno-smiths-interception-a-closer-look

The problem with this play is Geno probably should have hit Sudfeld the sideline 2 secs sooner..he was wide open

 

[Superman55]

Funny, a few years ago people blamed "the drop" by Stephen hill for our loss at New England. We're there other plays in that game would would have sealed the victory? Sure. But the drop was fairly critical.

Sudfeld is 6'7 and was out jumped by a 31 year old 5'10 CB...it may not have single handedly lost the game, but it was fairly pathetic and sealed the loss...because his QB trusted his big ass vs a little guy...but he couldn't handle it and showed he shouldn't be trusted. He'll get another shot, lucky him, but not because of anything he's done historically to prove he deserves a shot, IMO.

 

[jetfandreamer]

Forget about the play to simplify it..the main crux of the thread is that he is a good guy, doing good things in a time where the NFL needs more stories like this....

 

[Superman55]

Forget about the play to simplify it..the main crux of the thread is that he is a good guy, doing good things in a time where the NFL needs more stories like this....

from all accounts, Not too many people do more charity work and is nicer than Tim Tebow...I still don't want him on our team. It's hard for me to separate the good guy story from the football side on a NFL chat board.

To your point, it's is nice he's a good guy.

 

[jetfandreamer]

from all accounts, Not too many people do more charity work and is nicer than Tim Tebow...I still don't want him on our team. It's hard for me to separate the good guy story from the football side on a NFL chat board.

To your point, it's is nice he's a good guy.

I just mentioned because it was a recent article and a Jet until cut....and if anyone doesnt like the premise of the thread

A) dont respond to it

B) not meaning anyone in particular..dont be a hypocrite the other way and debate if a guy is a good fit or not for the Jets because he has had legal issues...if hes good for the Jets..what anyone does off the field doesnt matter....because if the Jets traded for Adrian Peterson tomorrow..you would have all the "holier than thou people" coming on saying its a disgrace etc, when he could clearly make the team better..

 

[flgreen]

Well, the last 2 season sudfeld has been one of Ryans good Ole boys despite shriveLing up like a little bitch every time a big moment is presented to him. I dont know if Bowles and Gaily have the recipe to solve little bitch disease, but I hope so...because at 6'7 255, the last thing you should look like on the football field is a little bitch. To your point, hopefully they have the cure.

A 6' 7" 250# athlete , who plays in one of the most violent games since the Roman arena, and has achieved the status of being among less then 1,700 players who were on NFL rosters last year with literally millions of young men dreaming of achieving that. And you choose to brand him a "little bitch" from an anonymous spot on the internet.

Interesting

 

[Superman55]

I just mentioned because it was a recent article and a Jet until cut....and if anyone doesnt like the premise of the thread

A) dont respond to it

B) not meaning anyone in particular..dont be a hypocrite the other way and debate if a guy is a good fit or not for the Jets because he has had legal issues...if hes good for the Jets..what anyone does off the field doesnt matter....because if the Jets traded for Adrian Peterson tomorrow..you would have all the "holier than thou people" coming on saying its a disgrace etc, when he could clearly make the team better..

My friend, the thread is titled Zachary sudfeld, I know you want to focus on the good guy story, but I think it's fair, as a public forum, for others to discuss other aspects of Zachary sudfeld other than the good guy story.

I apologize if you disagree, but I think all Zachary sudfeld is on topic in the thread. I think if you wish to ignore non good guy conversations, that is fair.

 

[jetfandreamer]

My friend, the thread is titled Zachary sudfeld, I know you want to focus on the good guy story, but I think it's fair, as a public forum, for others to discuss other aspects of Zachary sudfeld other than the good guy story.

I apologize if you disagree, but I think all Zachary sudfeld is on topic in the thread. I think if you wish to ignore non good guy conversations, that is fair.

Then I should have titled it differently.....we all know hes a marginal player with great size and he is on the bubble at best

 

[Football51]

Then I should have titled it differently.....we all know hes a marginal player with great size and he is on the bubble at best

Done and done

 

[Superman55]

Then I should have titled it differently.....we all know hes a marginal player with great size and he is on the bubble at best

Well, I actually think Sudfeld is the most talented TE on our roster, by far; however, like many players under the Ryan regime, he's not mentally prepared/sharp.

I think you could say the same for Geno, Pryor, Milliner, Winters, and Amaro...and Hill, Sanchez, Ducass, Keller, and Wilson before them.

I hope the new coaching staff can get these guys mentally prepared to match their physical gifts.

I know everything I said above is off topic based on the new title, so I'm glad he also sings in his church choir, gives military military personnel high-fives when he passes them while grocery shopping, and gives homeless people change when he passes them on the street. I'll continue to apologize for caring more about what our player do on the field than off it.

 

[Jet Setter]

from all accounts, Not too many people do more charity work and is nicer than Tim Tebow...I still don't want him on our team. It's hard for me to separate the good guy story from the football side on a NFL chat board.

To your point, it's is nice he's a good guy.

Yeah but 55, he's a good guy. You can't cut him....

This kind of emotional struggle is found in all aspects of life. People are almost programmed to overlook any faults if they think someone's a "good guy". I've seen this on other boards with regard to Willie Colon who was a penalty machine and missed blocks everywhere yet posters (fans) would defend him to the end blaming everyone except him for any issues and pointing out what a "good guy" he was. "He's GREAT for the locker room". Okay. On the flip side, everyone except myself was not judging Revis for being a good business man. Everyone despised him for being "greedy".

This goes on in the professional world as well as studies have shown for decades that being a popular person counts at least as much if not more than your skills. This kind of mentality makes businesses and teams weaker and is why fans can't understand the so-called "cruelty" of such popular players being forced out.

This is what you're up against here 55. How dare you not gloss over Sudfeld's shortcomings and point out his deficiencies. You're not human!
We're seeing the same rhetoric being ratcheted up for Wilk. We did to a large degree for Rex, didn't we? I did. I love the guy and wanted badly for him to succeed here. In the end, Woody had to let him go. It was the right decision. Difficult but correct.

All that said, I think you are obsessing too much on one or two plays for him. Just the same, I don't think his chances are good to make this team, nor Cumberland's after this season. I think the Jets will get a TE who can actually block and then flash receiving skills. There are a few in this draft - watch for our 4th rounder here.

 

[Jet Setter]

Great article on the kid from Randy Lange..he might be a bubble guy for Jets, but he is a great guy. I talked to him briefly at training camp last year and he was as engaging a kid you would ever meet. Had a smile for everyone, and I kidded him by saying it will be "the year of Zach" he laughed and he fist pumped me and said he liked it. IN a league where you see all the problems and chaos of guys, its good to see this, as well as I know many others doing great things, and under the radar for the most part.

http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/art...f-Africa/ea4bff01-2d21-4e14-9d97-7a14f3a715ac

Refreshing to see someone giving back to others. In a world of unspeakable greed, this feels good.

Did you know that the top 1% of wealth will soon own as much as the remaining 99%? See the article here:

http://www.ibtimes.com/richest-1-will-have-more-wealth-remaining-99-2016-oxfam-study-1787200

Just something to think about. That's incredible greed. But keep in mind that much of that wealth also creates a lot of jobs and opportunities but then again, much of it is pure gluttony. You can only hope more Sudfeld's exist among that 1%. There's no better feeling than doing something nice and helpful for others.

 

[maxmet]

It is possible to be a nice guy, generous, a good citizen and also pancake linebackers when blocking for the run and use one's height and bulk to catch passes against guys who are way smaller. Possible.