Maybe its me, but our pick should be easy

[JetsMakeMeCry]

Not sure if you guys/gals agree, but to me there seems to be 6 elite prospects in this draft (in no order): Winston, mariota, Williams, white, cooper, fowler. Being at #6 is a great spot. Assuming we don't trade out, one of these guys has to be there. The jets must draft the BPA at 6 and we should simply take whomever is left out of these 6. Anybody have any thoughts/comments?

 

[Superman55]

You'd draft Williams DT at #6 ?

 

[JetsMakeMeCry]

You'd draft Williams DT at [URL=http://nyjetsfanatics.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=6]#6 [/URL] ?

Up until this week my answer would have been no. But I realized we're picking #6 . We can't afford to mess this up. Missing in top 10 sets franchises back several years. I will spare all the instances in our history when we passed on a superior talent. I don't want to see it again. You can't go by need in top 6.

Williams is considered the top prospect in this draft. What's the worst that can happen if we draft him? We have a killer dline for the next few years? We have potential trade chips in the future? Or we should take a lesser prospect and wonder 3 years from now why we took a solid starter instead of a perennial all pro?

 

[Superman55]

Up until this week my answer would have been no. But I realized we're picking #6 . We can't afford to mess this up. Missing in top 10 sets franchises back several years. I will spare all the instances in our history when we passed on a superior talent. I don't want to see it again. You can't go by need in top 6.

Williams is considered the top prospect in this draft. What's the worst that can happen if we draft him? We have a killer dline for the next few years? We have potential trade chips in the future? Or we should take a lesser prospect and wonder 3 years from now why we took a solid starter instead of a perennial all pro?

Whats the worst that can happen? We no longer need to resign Wilkerson...so we dont. That's the worst that can happen.

 

[JetsMakeMeCry]

Whats the worst that can happen? We no longer need to resign Wilkerson...so we dont. That's the worst that can happen.

You really think we would not resign mo because we just drafted a rookie? If you said later on we may have a decision between Sheldon and Williams I'd agree. But is that such a terrible thing? U could trade one for a high pick or other players. This is how you sustain success. You don't force a pass rusher like Vic “vernon gholston" beasely, watch him bust and have nothing 3 years later. If there us a sure bet left on the board, you take the sure bet. In my estimation there are 6 elite guys. Take one of them and move on.

 

[sg3]

I'd have Beasley in the top 6 and White at 7.

To answer Super Dave's question, there is zero chance of Williams being there at 6 but of course you'd grab him

 

[JetsMakeMeCry]

I'd have Beasley in the top 6 and White at 7.

To answer Super Dave's question, there is zero chance of Williams being there at 6 but of course you'd grab him

We can argue top 6 but Mac said we're going BPA and I hope he sticks to that. Beasely to me is fake. He magically gains 20lbs of muscle right before the combine? Give me a break...

 

[Superman55]

You really think we would not resign mo because we just drafted a rookie? If you said later on we may have a decision between Sheldon and Williams I'd agree. But is that such a terrible thing? U could trade one for a high pick or other players. This is how you sustain success. You don't force a pass rusher like Vic “vernon gholston" beasely, watch him bust and have nothing 3 years later. If there us a sure bet left on the board, you take the sure bet. In my estimation there are 6 elite guys. Take one of them and move on.

You use the # 6 pick to not fill any holes on your team and it eventually causes you to lose a 25-26 year old pro bowl talent at the same position for no reason other than you wasted a pick for surplus? Yes, I'd consider that "so terrible."

Richardson and Williams would be on rookie deals...it would make more sense to let Wilkerson walk.


Don't listen to Skeet Gulper 3.

 

[cysporsche]

Just because we draft a player like Williams, does not mean that we still can't trade him later in the draft.

I also doubt Williams will be there @ 6, but what about this crazy idea I got crucified for on our old Scout board ? I think we all agree that Sheldon Richardson DL 6'3"/294 is the most gifted athlete on our team, but "if" we drafted Williams, ask Richardson to drop 10-15 pounds and let him be our stud OLB. I think with his speed, hip movement, and LB like mobility, slide Sheldon to OLB. Coples is a better DT/DE than LB anyway. Just a crazy thought, but.....

Go Jets...Cyborg

 

[JetsMakeMeCry]

You use the # 6 pick to not fill any holes on your team and it eventually causes you to lose a 25-26 year old pro bowl talent at the same position for no reason other than you wasted a pick for surplus? Yes, I'd consider that "so terrible."

Richardson and Williams would be on rookie deals...it would make more sense to let Wilkerson walk.


Don't listen to Skeet Gulper 3.

Can't get onboard with drafting a lesser prospect at 6 to fill a need. In every other round I'm fine with it, but not at 6.

 

[Superman55]

Can't get onboard with drafting a lesser prospect at 6 to fill a need. In every other round I'm fine with it, but not at 6.

then we should trade the pick, IMO. We have Sheldon, Harrison, and Wilkerson (and Coples). How many years do we spend a rd 1 pick on dline? Say we draft Williams...next year if the best player when our pick comes up if the BPA is a dline men, do we draft one again every year till BPA isn't dline? When do you stop when 3 of the last 4 years we've gone dline? Taking Williams would be 4 of the last 5 years we've taken dline...doesn't make much sense when you only play 3 dlinemen...

 

[OCCH]

then we should trade the pick, IMO. We have Sheldon, Harrison, and Wilkerson (and Coples). How many years do we spend a rd 1 pick on dline? Say we draft Williams...next year if the best player when our pick comes up if the BPA is a dline men, do we draft one again every year till BPA isn't dline? When do you stop when 3 of the last 4 years we've gone dline? Taking Williams would be 4 of the last 5 years we've taken dline...doesn't make much sense when you only play 3 dlinemen...

The only thing I'd say is many (most?) are referring to Williams as the best player in the entire draft -- that's not someone you get a shot at unless you're perennially losing, in which case the talent on the roster isn't getting the job done and needs to be upgraded anyway.

I agree when the talent is remotely comparable, let need "break the tie". But if there's that big a difference, BPA wins.

I almost hope Williams IS there, just so we could see how it all played out . . .

 

[sg3]

then we should trade the pick, IMO. We have Sheldon, Harrison, and Wilkerson (and Coples). How many years do we spend a rd 1 pick on dline? Say we draft Williams...next year if the best player when our pick comes up if the BPA is a dline men, do we draft one again every year till BPA isn't dline? When do you stop when 3 of the last 4 years we've gone dline? Taking Williams would be 4 of the last 5 years we've taken dline...doesn't make much sense when you only play 3 dlinemen...

Fortunately, Maccagnan will probably not be consulting with Dave on this matter. Advice from Cysporche would be fine with, though

 

[BlindsideD'Brick]

1. Williams won't be there.

2. If by some miracle he was, a d-line needy team would trade up with us for him, OR we take him and trade him later in the round. It's been done before.

3. The #6 pick is more about BPA than need. Drafting Williams wouldn't be a bad move. It would give the Jets the hands down, best defensive line in the NFL.

With that said, I think our d-line already kicks butt. So it's technically not a "need" pick and wouldn't be the best case scenario.

 

[hokiejetfan92]

1. Williams won't be there.

2. If by some miracle he was, a d-line needy team would trade up with us for him, OR we take him and trade him later in the round. It's been done before.

3. The #6 pick is more about BPA than need. Drafting Williams wouldn't be a bad move. It would give the Jets the hands down, best defensive line in the NFL.

With that said, I think our d-line already kicks butt. So it's technically not a "need" pick and wouldn't be the best case scenario.

If those six guys are the only ones that we can pick from, worst case scenario is that williams slides to us. Hopefully we could trade down. But McGAY has Gurley going to us now in his latest mock which i think is pretty stupid but whatever

 

[Sarge]

It's easy for Maccagnan. He knows his Top 6 and is chilling out right about niw. It's hard for the rest of us because we have to guess who the Jets top 6 are.

I would assume it's Winston, Mariotta, Williams, and Fowler Top 4, but are 5-6 Cooper, White, Scherrf, Beasley, Gurley, others? We don't know.

 

[JetsMakeMeCry]

then we should trade the pick, IMO. We have Sheldon, Harrison, and Wilkerson (and Coples). How many years do we spend a rd 1 pick on dline? Say we draft Williams...next year if the best player when our pick comes up if the BPA is a dline men, do we draft one again every year till BPA isn't dline? When do you stop when 3 of the last 4 years we've gone dline? Taking Williams would be 4 of the last 5 years we've taken dline...doesn't make much sense when you only play 3 dlinemen...

Totally okay with trading down. I don't predict trades though so I left that option out. Would love to pick up an extra first next year...

 

[Seaver41]

Perfect draft for me.....albeit a hair unrealistic...would be to see Mariota still there at #6 ......and then have SD come trade us Rivers to draft him. No draftee can do more for the Jets than a premium veteran QB. Like I said, chances are vastly against it, but that's my idea of an easy pick.

 

[ucrenegade]

i am starting to really hope we don't pick a wr at 6 I think we can get a good one that fits gailey offense at 37

 

[Football51]

Perfect draft for me.....albeit a hair unrealistic...would be to see Mariota still there at #6 ......and then have SD come trade us Rivers to draft him. No draftee can do more for the Jets than a premium veteran QB. Like I said, chances are vastly against it, but that's my idea of an easy pick.

Seaver......... from Scout? Finally......... welcome aboard. If it's not you, welcome anyway