With less than a week to go, its time to update my mock draft

[Green Jets & Ham]

HERE WE GO

1. BUCS - Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State
   
   

   I'm convinced the Bucs will take him #1, and equally convinced they'll regret it.

2. TITANS - Leonard Williams, DL, USC
   
   

   For the right price this pick could be dealt, but I can't see anyone paying the price it would cost to move all the way up to #2, so the Titans roll with Mettenberger and take the consensus best player in the draft.

3. JAGUARS - Dante Fowler, DE/OLB, Florida
   
   

   This kid is thick, explosive and mean, a violent football player, just the way I like my pass rushers.

4. RAIDERS - Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama
   
   

   Cooper or White is splitting hairs and both guys look like elite #1 WR's too me, so you can't lose either way, but I give a slight nod to Cooper.

5. REDSKINS - Kevin White, WR, West Virginia
   
   

   WR is not a need and I suspect they will try to trade the pick to someone who wants to leap the Jets for Mariota, but if they can't find a deal worth making and they have to keep the pick, IMO it would be foolish to pass on White.

6. JETS - Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon
   
   

   If someone leaps the Jets for Mariota and Kevin White slides to them here, I repeat what I said for Washington, its not a primary need following the addition of Marshall, but it would be foolish to pass on White here. But if there are no trades in the TOP 5 and the board falls this way, Mariota is a lock to the Jets.

7. BEARS - Danny Shelton, NT, Washington
   
   

   They need to put some monsters back in 'Monsters of the Midway', and this kid looks like a damn Sasquatch.

8. FALCONS - Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia
   
   

   Gurley looked like the second coming of Adrian Peterson before he hurt his knee, but ACL's are not what they used to be. Once upon a time elbow injuries in baseball and ACL's in football were career threatening injuries, but nowadays, with the advancements in medicine and rehab, you fix these guys up and they are just like new, sometimes better than new. That said, Gurley is said to be flying up the board and making a late push for the TOP 10.

9. GIANTS - La'el Collins, T/G, LSU
   
   

   Eli has gotten clobbered the past two years and their playoff hopes have gone down with him. If they don't do something to fix that, and fast, they are going to waste the remainder of his prime. I like Collins more than Scherff in this spot because I think he's a better LT prospect, and if that doesn't workout, worse case scenario you have a perennial all-pro Guard.

10. RAMS - DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville
    
    

    Rams try to give Nick Foles something they never gave Sam Bradford, a legit #1 Receiver.

11. VIKINGS - Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State
    
    

    A 36 year old Terence Newman is not the answer. Waynes would give them terrific length and speed opposite Xavier Rhodes.

12. BROWNS - Breshad Perriman, WR, Central Florida
    
    

    They added some pieces at WR, but none of them would scare anyone and they still need a #1 WR. Perriman has the size and speed to be that guy.

13. SAINTS - Vic Beasley, OLB, Clemson
    
    

    They will most likely take the highest rated edge rusher in this spot, and Beasley is that guy by default with Gregory's multiple failed drug tests and if you believe the reports that Ray might need foot surgery.

14. DOLPHINS - Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin
    
    

    Lamar Miller is just an ordinary RB. Gordon, on the other hand, has everything it takes to be an elite feature back. Finally the RB's get some love in the draft, and for good reason, these two (Gurley & Gordon) are special.

15. 49ERS - Brandon Scherff, OG, Iowa
    
    

    Scherff is the highest rated available player on my board at a position that can use an upgrade for the 49ers. Looks a lot like Zack Martin too me.

16. TEXANS - Alvin Dupree, OLB, Kentucky
    
    

    Mercilus is just an ordinary player who doesn't sack the QB nearly enough. If Clowney bounces back and gets healthy, he and Dupree could terrorize QB's off the edges, particularly with Watt drawing so much attention.

17. CHARGERS - Randy Gregory, DE/OLB, Nebraska
    
    

    Gregory and Ray appear to be sliding for different reasons, multiple failed drug tests (weed) for Gregory and possible foot surgery looming for Ray, but at this point the possible reward starts to outweigh the risk.

18. CHIEFS - Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami
    
    

    KC needs an upgrade at RT and this kid is a beast. He's a plug & play RT and a massive upgrade from day one, with all-pro potential at the position.

19. BROWNS - Shane Ray, OLB, Missouri
    
    

    The Browns are not winning the Super Bowl this year and probably not making the playoffs either, so for them its about building for the future and Ray offers legit TOP 10 value here. Even if foot surgery is required and his rookie season takes a hit, its still a smart pick over the long haul.

20. EAGLES - Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford
    
    

    The draft community doesn't love him, but TFY is hearing he won't get past the Rams at #10. I think that would be too high and I'll believe it when I see it, but he plays a premium position (LT) and he would be good value for the Eagles here.

21. BENGALS - Eddie Goldman, NT, Florida State
    
    

    I think Goldman is one of the most underrated players in the draft. I look at this kid and I see a young Vince Wilfork.

22. STEELERS - Marcus Peters, CB, Washington
    
    

    So long as Peters gets with a coach he wouldn't dare test, he has a chance to be a Pro Bowl caliber Corner. He won't test Mike Tomlin, not if he has even one functional brain-cell in his head.

23. LIONS - Malcom Brown, DT, Texas
    
    

    With Ngata and Brown inside, and Ansah outside, they are right back to having a D-line worth envying. Brown is a perfect compliment to Ngata who is more of a run stuffer, while Brown gives you a real inside pass rush.

24. CARDINALS - Byron Jones, CB, UConn
    
    

    Jones lit up the combines and forced people to go back and watch his tape, and when they did they saw a damn good player too. He and Pat Peterson would be an extremely talented duo, and both have terrific size.

25. PANTHERS - D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida
    
    

    Humphries projects to LT where the Panthers desperately need an upgrade.

26. RAVENS - Arik Armstead, DL, Oregon
    
    

    Trading Ngata left room for an upgrade on the D-line and Armstead fits what the Ravens like to do on defense with their multiple fronts. He can play DE in the 3-4 or move inside in the 4-3.

27. COWBOYS - Kevin Johnson, CB, Wake Forest
    
    

    Close call between KJ and Eric Rowe. I give a slight nod to Johnson.

28. BRONCOS - Cameron Erving, C/G, Florida State
    
    

    At Peyton's age and with his recent history of injuries, pass protection is of paramount importance. Denver needs help at RT, G and C, and Erving would give them a terrific young player at Center or either Guard.

29. COLTS - Landon Collins, S, Alabama
    
    

    Safety and O-line are probably their two biggest needs, but when you have a crack at the first Safety off the board verses the sixth OL, and the Safety is a consensus 1st RD Pick, its probably wise to take the Safety.

30. PACKERS - Eric Rowe, CB, Utah
    
    

    Rowe is one of the most underrated players in this draft, a big CB with terrific coverage and ball skills, and he's real fast too. I had a hard time deciding between Rowe and Johnson for the Cowboys, but this one was easy.

31. SAINTS - Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State
    
    

    Brees was none too happy about the Saints trading away his stud TE and Go-to-Guy in Jimmy Graham, and he said as much, so they better do something early to get him another big target he can rely on.

32. PATRIOTS - Jordan Phillips, NT, Oklahoma
    
    

    Phillips is raw, declaring as a redshirt Sophomore, but you can't teach this kind of size and strength and this kid has enormous potential.

JETS (RD 2 Options)

Donovan Smith, OT, Penn State
Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon
Laken Tomlinson, OG, Duke
Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia
Danielle Hunter, OLB, LSU
Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State
Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami
Nelson Agholor, WR, USC
Tevin Coleman, RB, Indiana

 

[Texjet]

So what are we giving up to trade to the 4th pick in your scenario? Would think our second round pick in 2015 would be part of the deal, no?

 

[nycdan]

That move up I could support. Fairly inexpensive and gets the guy they want.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

I posted the value chart price in the Raiders comments at 6

If we use the chart, we would give the Raiders our 3, and they would give us back a 5

That said, we'll probably have to settle for a 6 or 7

 

[raideraholic]

I posted the value chart price in the Raiders comments at 6

If we use the chart, we would give the Raiders our 3, and they would give us back a 5

That said, we'll probably have to settle for a 6 or 7

JMO you can throw the draft chart out when it involves a Qb( there will be a lot of teams competing to acquire- more expensive to get). IF the Raiders trade the fourth pick , for a third rounder, they aren't given anything back.

You have to be careful what you hear now(smokescreen) but there is a Lot of chatter Raiders have an interest in Alvin Dupree.( would jump out of the window if he's picked without trading back). If the Raiders make that Jets trade , I could see them making a trade with Miami.( Kevin White). More acceptable to take Dupree at that point.

I'm hoping both Qb's go 1 and 2 in the draft. Than Raiders are guarantee to get one of these players L Williams, Dante Fowler, Vic Beasley, Amari Cooper.( minus whoever the Jaguars draft)

 

[Seaver41]

i would then turn around and deal Mariota to SD for Rivers+.....getting a REAL QB

 

[sg3]

i would then turn around and deal Mariota to SD for Rivers+.....getting a REAL QB

Welcome to the board Tom.

But I respectfully disagree 1000 % with that idea.

I guess, in 1983, I'd also be against drafting Elway and trading him to the Packers for Bart Starr or some other 35 year old too, and unlike Rivers, Starr actually won stuff

 

[Sarge]

It's plausible. I still think someone is going to have to get to 2 to draft Mariotta

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Please don't let this happen!!

 

[HYATT™]

Unless Trampa isn't the least bit interested in drafting Winston, the team in the cat bird seat this year is TEN.

Market Value is determined, in large part, by scarcity.
At #1, there are 2 QB options, Winston & Mariota, which means the 1st team up gets to choose & is guaranteed to get one or the other.
Trade partners can play Trampa off against TEN to get a better value.

The SECOND team up is then in a position of selling their pick for the rarest commodity in the draft and the ONLY one left that guarantees the other one of the 2 rarest players in this draft - a PERCEIVED franchise QB.

If TEN trades back, they'll get more than Trampa ever would have for their #1 pick, unless a team is so desperate, (description of Trampa to a "T"), they'd trade their entire draft to get at Winston in that #1 spot.
If the TEN pick is for Winston, because Trampa decides Mariota is their guy, they may get offers of as much as THREE first round picks for the #2 spot.
Winston, baggage and all, is still a better QB prospect to run a Pro Set NFL offense than RG-III was in 2012 - and RG-III cost Washington that much and an additional 2nd rounder, to move from #6 to the #2 spot in 2012.

St.Louis Rd 1-#2 (2,600 points) sent to the 'skins for;

[2012] WAS Rd 1-#6 (1,600 points)
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[2012] WAS Rd 2-#39 (510 points)
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[2013] Rd 1-#22, ("future-valued" as #32 in the first round of 2013) (590 points)
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[2014] Rd 1-#2, ("future-valued" at #32 in the first round of 2014) (590 points)

TOTAL cost to Washington = (3,290 points), which reflects the scarcity value of the #2 pick of the ONLY viable franchise QB left in the draft at that point, once Luck was off the board.
(Tannehill went at #8 & was a grossly overvalued pick by MIA at that point.)

290 points (292 points is equivalent to Rd 2-#61) MORE than the #1 pick, (3,000 points), was worth on the trade charts before Indy removed Luck.
Slob fans may have debated whether Luck or RG-III was the better QB that year, but actual draft analysts all knew it was no contest at all - and yet RG-III ended up being worth more than Luck, in costs to WAS.
What WAS gambled on and lost, was that Indy would go for RG-III and Luck would fall to Washington at #2.
Such is the harrow of trading to the #2 spot BEFORE the actual draft day and the #1 pick is done.

St. Louis made out like bandits, trading #6 back yet again to #14 with DAL with DAL's Rd 2 pick thrown in for good measure - garnering an eventual 7 picks from the pair of WAS Rd 1 picks & the WAS Rd 2 pick.

Ultimately St.L ended up with 5 DECENT picks in the top 3 rounds, in 2012 & 10 picks overall.

#14-DT-Michael Brockers
their own #33-WR Brian Quick
#39 CB Janoris Jenkins
#65-CB Trumaine Johnson

In 2013 they finished with just 7 picks, none after Rd 5.
#8-WR Tavon Austin
#30-LB Alec Ogletree
#71-Safty T.J. McDonald
#92-WR Steadman Bailey
their own #113-OG Barrett Jones
their own #149-CB Brandon McGee
#160-RB Zak Stacy

In 2014 the Rams eventually selected 11 more players, (3 Compensatory Picks), in part a result of their machinations stemming from that 2012 blockbuster RG-III trade - including an extra Rd 1 pick.
#2-OT Greg Robinson
their own #13-DT Aaron Donald
#41-Safety Lamarcus Joiner (cost St.L #44 +#153 to move up)

Beyond the actual draft trade point chart, it is evident that trades of this magnitude have repercussions for YEARS to come.

 

[jets82]

I'm so burned out with this mock draft and draft speculation period. I'm even more done with the QB talk or debate, lol. I'll just say I trust in the GM and HC to pick the best player whether they trade up, trade down or stay put. J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets

 

[Football51]

I'm so burned out with this mock draft and draft speculation period. I'm even more done with the QB talk or debate, lol. I'll just say I trust in the GM and HC to pick the best player whether they trade up, trade down or stay put. J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets

It feels like it takes forever for the draft to get here, then, it's over in the blink of an eye.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

It feels like it takes forever for the draft to get here, then, it's over in the blink of an eye.

The draft should be no later than the first weekend in April, maybe even the last week in March. These last few weeks are total overkill. Totally unnecessary. The GM's boards were set weeks ago.

 

[HYATT™]

The draft should be no later than the first weekend in April, maybe even the last week in March. These last few weeks are total overkill. Totally unnecessary. The GM's boards were set weeks ago.

Not necessarily.
Winston had 2 more rape accusers jump on the BIG CASH-IN bandwagon just this week, though there were intimations it MIGHT be coming a couple weeks ago.