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ucrenegade
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1. bucs
2.titans
3.raiders
4.redskins
5. jags
6. jets
can't even get a top 5 player.
2.titans
3.raiders
4.redskins
5. jags
6. jets
can't even get a top 5 player.
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ucrenegade
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stupid me didn't take into account teams resting players for playoffs
new draft order
1. bucs
2. titans
3. jags
4. jets
5. raiders
6 redskins
how much will it take to go from 4-1 or 4-2?
new draft order
1. bucs
2. titans
3. jags
4. jets
5. raiders
6 redskins
how much will it take to go from 4-1 or 4-2?
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ucrenegade
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mariotta and winston are still in play
folllow me here
current draft order
1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 2-12 (.479 SOS) pack and saints pretty much a lock for number 1 2-14
2. Tennessee Titans: 2-12 (.491 SOS) jags can be beat and a rested colts team could put titans 4-12
3. Jacksonville Jaguars: 2-12 (.509 SOS) titans and texans they could lose 2-14
4. Oakland Raiders: 2-12 (.585 SOS) bills this is a L but they can beat a rested group of broncos 3-13
5. Washington: 3-11 (.495 SOS) eagles loss and rested cowboys 4-12
6. New York Jets: 3-11 (.550 SOS) pats a L and dolphins prob playing for a spot in playoffs another L 3-13
that would change order to
1. bucs- need qb
2. jags- don't need qb
3. jets - need qb
4. raiders- don't need qb
5. titans- need qb
6. redskins- need qb
if cowboys don't rest their players against the skins
then it will be
1. bucs- need qb
2. jags- don't need qb
3. redskins- need qb
4. jets- need qb
5. raiders- don't need qb
6. titans- need qb
we really need to hope a few teams rest their starters but both qb's are still technically in play prob more winston than mariotta.
folllow me here
current draft order
1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 2-12 (.479 SOS) pack and saints pretty much a lock for number 1 2-14
2. Tennessee Titans: 2-12 (.491 SOS) jags can be beat and a rested colts team could put titans 4-12
3. Jacksonville Jaguars: 2-12 (.509 SOS) titans and texans they could lose 2-14
4. Oakland Raiders: 2-12 (.585 SOS) bills this is a L but they can beat a rested group of broncos 3-13
5. Washington: 3-11 (.495 SOS) eagles loss and rested cowboys 4-12
6. New York Jets: 3-11 (.550 SOS) pats a L and dolphins prob playing for a spot in playoffs another L 3-13
that would change order to
1. bucs- need qb
2. jags- don't need qb
3. jets - need qb
4. raiders- don't need qb
5. titans- need qb
6. redskins- need qb
if cowboys don't rest their players against the skins
then it will be
1. bucs- need qb
2. jags- don't need qb
3. redskins- need qb
4. jets- need qb
5. raiders- don't need qb
6. titans- need qb
we really need to hope a few teams rest their starters but both qb's are still technically in play prob more winston than mariotta.
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flgreen
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It is possible the Jets wind up with #4 but I think it's a long shot.
Bucs----Packers and NO Saints could be beatable, but I doubt it
Titian's------Jax and Colts
Raiders----Bills and Denver. Not winning either
Redskins----Eagles and the Cowboys Nope
Jax--------Titians, Texans
Jets have NE and Miami. They will be slaughtered by NE. The Fish on this closing week is a Jets win. After yesterday's crushing loss to the Pats the Fish are going to pack it in. Jets win another ugly game, and everyone is jumping up and down about how Smith has won 2 out of three, and is great. LOL
Actually at 4 a very good player should still be available, maybe even Winston, depending what happens with Oregon, who IMO is a much better team then FSU. I guess there is still hope, but having the Fish in week 17 sucks
Bucs----Packers and NO Saints could be beatable, but I doubt it
Titian's------Jax and Colts
Raiders----Bills and Denver. Not winning either
Redskins----Eagles and the Cowboys Nope
Jax--------Titians, Texans
Jets have NE and Miami. They will be slaughtered by NE. The Fish on this closing week is a Jets win. After yesterday's crushing loss to the Pats the Fish are going to pack it in. Jets win another ugly game, and everyone is jumping up and down about how Smith has won 2 out of three, and is great. LOL
Actually at 4 a very good player should still be available, maybe even Winston, depending what happens with Oregon, who IMO is a much better team then FSU. I guess there is still hope, but having the Fish in week 17 sucks
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flgreen
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Good job. I wish I had seen this before I replied to your other thread. Yeah it's possible, but.............................................
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ucrenegade
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with our qb options we have now mariotta and winston should be picked first for the jets no matter if we are drafting 3rd, 8th, or 22nd that is how bad geno is.
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flgreen
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OK
Even though I can't see the Titan's team the Jets beat yesterday winning 2 more games. Same thing with the Redskins. No way the Raiders are beating Denver. But I'll play.
I think both of the QB's in this draft have a high upside. IMO Winston has a better chance to be an NFL player. Mariota is going to go early. Either by trade, very possible, or some one takes him at 1 or 2.
IMO Oregon is a much better balanced team then FSU. Georgia Tech's running game shredded FSU's defense. They are really going to struggle against Mariota, and the Ducks, which is going to put a lot of pressure on Winston. It is very possible he has a rare off game here as he did against Florida.
If that happens, coupled with his off field issues, he is likely to fall a bit, and still be there at 6. That is if the Jets lose to Miami. Got my doubts about that
Even though I can't see the Titan's team the Jets beat yesterday winning 2 more games. Same thing with the Redskins. No way the Raiders are beating Denver. But I'll play.
I think both of the QB's in this draft have a high upside. IMO Winston has a better chance to be an NFL player. Mariota is going to go early. Either by trade, very possible, or some one takes him at 1 or 2.
IMO Oregon is a much better balanced team then FSU. Georgia Tech's running game shredded FSU's defense. They are really going to struggle against Mariota, and the Ducks, which is going to put a lot of pressure on Winston. It is very possible he has a rare off game here as he did against Florida.
If that happens, coupled with his off field issues, he is likely to fall a bit, and still be there at 6. That is if the Jets lose to Miami. Got my doubts about that
Where did you think Geno,Bridgewater or Manziel was going to go in their Draft?? And tell the truth..LOL
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ucrenegade
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this is predicated on teams resting their players in the last game of the season
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flgreen
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Honestly I saw Smith play several times at WV, including the Pinstripe Bowl. Thought he sucked. Didn't like Manziel either. Just didn't think he could bring his act to the NFL. Plus he has a rep of not taking coaching well. Wasn't surprised he slid. Bridgewater i was surprised about. Thought he was a pretty good player
So my point is just because fans think a certain player will go number 1 it doesn't mean the people that are responsible for the draft do..
I agree we are desperate for a QB but that doesn't mean we should panick or take one for the sake of taking one. We need to do our homework on these guys or we could set things back another 2 or 3 years again.
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flgreen
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Oh I agree 100%. Particularly in the NE where college football is not a big deal. Most NYC fans haven't seen these guys play at all. They depend strictly on what the Mel Kiper's of the world think.
Certainly not an expert by any stretch, but I gamble on college football, and watch a ton of games. I've at least seen most of them play a few times. Some alot, like Winston I've seen play 16 times.
Doesn't mean I know how he is going to do in the NFL, but at least I have my own opinion. For what it's worth, IMO both these guys have flaws. Mariota very talented in a lot of area's but I'm concerned about him 1) because he runs alot, injury. 2) The offense he plays out of. Big time transition. Has a major upside, but a lot of work is in front of him before he hits his upside. Got to stop running as much if he wants to stay healthy.
IMO Winston has bad foot work. Often throws off his back foot overestimating his arm strength, and tries to put the ball in places it doesn't fit. Has a gun slinger mentality. He also is huge, very strong, and doesn't lose his cool with a lot of pressure on him. He has had a high ankle sprain all season, it has affected his play, but he continues to over come all the pressure that's been on him this year.
Think he has a huge upside. As i said this is just my opinion
Last year both the Texans,Jags and Browns needed QB's picking 1st,3rd and 8th. Houston took Clowney, Jags took Bortles and Browns took a DB with their first picks..
Winston is very talented but NY could be a bad influence on him. I think Mariota is a better QB presently and will do well in the NFL. I would love to see the Jets get Cooper. Their need for a receiver is great and I think that Geno will be back fighting to be the starter against a good young vet QB. Cooper, Decker, Harvin, Kerley, Amaro can certainly be a force. The key of course will be the OL. Brady would not be the Brady we know with a weak OL. No QB can pass when they are on their back or running for their life. Winston is a turnover machine in the Sanchez/ Geno vein. If Cooper is there I'd love to see him as a Jet.
Yes, but I think the consensus is these two are better prospects than last years crop. But Winston could drop
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