5 Greatest NFL Coaches post 1980?

Sarge

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Only counting coaches whose 1st game as an NFL head coach came after Jan 1, 1980
 
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Mainejet

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Did Walsh and/or Parcells get their HC chances after January 1, 1980? Because if they did then there are certainly two of your best.

Shanahan, Holmgren, Johnson would be my others........
 

Fudbutter

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I know you all hate him but Belichick has 4 championships and a .729 winning pct over the past 15 years and has to be #1

Joe Gibbs and Parcells are obvious other ones, but what about Tom Coughlin, George Seifert or Mike Shanahan?

Still, none of them are Paul Brown or Vince Lombardi
 
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ucrenegade

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I know you all hate him but Belichick has 4 championships and a .729 winning pct over the past 15 years and has to be #1

Joe Gibbs and Parcells are obvious other ones, but what about Tom Coughlin, George Seifert or Mike Shanahan?

Still, none of them are Paul Brown or Vince Lombardi

They didn't say best cheating coaches or you would be right on belliboy
 

Savage69

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I know you all hate him but Belichick has 4 championships and a .729 winning pct over the past 15 years and has to be #1

Joe Gibbs and Parcells are obvious other ones, but what about Tom Coughlin, George Seifert or Mike Shanahan?

Still, none of them are Paul Brown or Vince Lombardi

As long as you leave out his 1 winning season out of 5 with the Browns..
 

Fudbutter

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As long as you leave out his 1 winning season out of 5 with the Browns..

Even with Browns, still in top ten in all time winning pct for coaches 10 seasons or more and 2nd to Dungy for 10 seasons after 1980.

I am not a fan of this guy, after all he did abandon us, just acknowledging results

Funny but Dungy has not been mentioned above. Should consider him too, no?
 

HYATT™

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Even with Browns, still in top ten in all time winning pct for coaches 10 seasons or more and 2nd to Dungy for 10 seasons after 1980.

I am not a fan of this guy, after all he did abandon us, just acknowledging results

Funny but Dungy has not been mentioned above. Should consider him too, no?
No.
Dungy was an innovator on defense, (Trampa 2), but he couldn't get it done with a loaded team in Trampa, (Chucky upped his wins total by 3 games & won the SB in his first year, after taking over for Dungy in 2002), and inherited a pretty decent team built by Jim Mora in Indy prior to Dungy taking it over in '02 - and it STILL took him Middle Manning AND 5 years to finally win the big one.

Dungy was too soft of a HC and not a good enough offensive tactician to be considered as a great HC.

HYATT™ believes a dozen candidates should be considered;
1.) Belicheat - obviously the best HC since Lombardi by a country mile.

2.) Bill Parcells - (2 different teams to 3 Super Bowls and a 3rd to an AFCC game.)

3.) Joe Gibbs - 4 Super Bowls and 3 Lombardis is more than enough to get you on the list, especially when you collected the hardware with 3 different QBs & made it to an NFCC game with a 4th - in just a dozen years.

4.) Mike Holgren - (2 different teams to 3 Super Bowls - and Hasselbeck offsets the Favre argument.)

5.) Marv Levy - took the Jills to 4 CONSECUTIVE Super Bowls. HYATT™ doesn't even care that they lost all 4, Marv didn't PLAY in them and lose them.

6.) Dan Reeves - though HYATT™ personally disliked the HC, there's no denying he took 2 different teams to 4 Super Bowls over his career - ATL in just his 2nd season there.

7a.) Bill "the Chin" Cowher - 2 Super Bowls a decade apart and SIX AFCC games over 15 years is nothing to sneeze at. A lot of HCs have done a lot less and still been highly regarded & they didn't have to contend with 5 different QBs to get it done either.

7b.) Tom Coughlin - has earned a spot as well, with 2 AFCC games in JAX and a pair of Lombardis in NY, over 2 decades.

9.) Mike Shanahan - Hella run between a pair of SB titles in Denver and a title as OC in SF, but best of all was when he ordered Elvis Grbac to throw a football at OAK owner "Dead Al" Davis' head in 1994 after a contentious and often times heated battle with Davis stemming from when he was HC there from '88-'89.
In his dotage Shanahan took to reading his own press clippings too much and started believing he was an infallible assessor of washed up NFL talent.

10.) John Harbaugh - should be already in consideration after what he's done in just 7 years in BAL. 9+3 points is the difference between his having won a Super Bowl and been in 2 more AFCC games and having been in all 3 Super Bowls in '08, '11, & '12.
Brother Jim Harbaugh wasn't exactly chopped liver in SF for the past 4 seasons either - the first three ending in the NFCC game or a Super Bowl. Too bad his NFL HC career came to such an abrupt end.

11.) Andy Reid - 4 CONSECUTIVE NFCC games and a losing effort in a Super Bowl in PHI, coupled with a return to the playoffs in KC as a rookie HC there, (barely missed making it a 2-fer last season), Reid's story still has chapters to be written.

12.) Marty Shottenheimer - 3 teams, (CLE, KC, & SD), and 2 decades of being the most cursed HC in NFL history, and STILL Martyball managed to compile a (200-126-1) record in regular season play and 3 AFC Championship games with 2 different teams. If it wasn't for the curse and a (5-13) playoff record, Marty would be a LOT higher up on this list.
 

Savage69

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Even with Browns, still in top ten in all time winning pct for coaches 10 seasons or more and 2nd to Dungy for 10 seasons after 1980.

I am not a fan of this guy, after all he did abandon us, just acknowledging results

Funny but Dungy has not been mentioned above. Should consider him too, no?

Yes BB has done well with a HOF QB plus a little cheating here and there.. Of course George Seifert did well with the 49'ers when he had Montana and Young.. Without them he was 16-32 in 3 years and canned as HC of the Panthers.. Dungy needed a HOF QB to win also.. Parcells won without HOF QB's..
 
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ucrenegade

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HYATT™;35290 said:
No.
Dungy was an innovator on defense, (Trampa 2), but he couldn't get it done with a loaded team in Trampa, (Chucky upped his wins total by 3 games & won the SB in his first year, after taking over for Dungy in 2002), and inherited a pretty decent team built by Jim Mora in Indy prior to Dungy taking it over in '02 - and it STILL took him Middle Manning AND 5 years to finally win the big one.

Dungy was too soft of a HC and not a good enough offensive tactician to be considered as a great HC.

HYATT™ believes a dozen candidates should be considered;
1.) Belicheat - obviously the best HC since Lombardi by a country mile.

2.) Bill Parcells - (2 different teams to 3 Super Bowls and a 3rd to an AFCC game.)

3.) Joe Gibbs - 4 Super Bowls and 3 Lombardis is more than enough to get you on the list, especially when you collected the hardware with 3 different QBs & made it to an NFCC game with a 4th - in just a dozen years.

4.) Mike Holgren - (2 different teams to 3 Super Bowls - and Hasselbeck offsets the Favre argument.)

5.) Marv Levy - took the Jills to 4 CONSECUTIVE Super Bowls. HYATT™ doesn't even care that they lost all 4, Marv didn't PLAY in them and lose them.

6.) Dan Reeves - though HYATT™ personally disliked the HC, there's no denying he took 2 different teams to 4 Super Bowls over his career - ATL in just his 2nd season there.

7a.) Bill "the Chin" Cowher - 2 Super Bowls a decade apart and SIX AFCC games over 15 years is nothing to sneeze at. A lot of HCs have done a lot less and still been highly regarded & they didn't have to contend with 5 different QBs to get it done either.

7b.) Tom Coughlin - has earned a spot as well, with 2 AFCC games in JAX and a pair of Lombardis in NY, over 2 decades.

9.) Mike Shanahan - Hella run between a pair of SB titles in Denver and a title as OC in SF, but best of all was when he ordered Elvis Grbac to throw a football at OAK owner "Dead Al" Davis' head in 1994 after a contentious and often times heated battle with Davis stemming from when he was HC there from '88-'89.
In his dotage Shanahan took to reading his own press clippings too much and started believing he was an infallible assessor of washed up NFL talent.

10.) John Harbaugh - should be already in consideration after what he's done in just 7 years in BAL. 9+3 points is the difference between his having won a Super Bowl and been in 2 more AFCC games and having been in all 3 Super Bowls in '08, '11, & '12.
Brother Jim Harbaugh wasn't exactly chopped liver in SF for the past 4 seasons either - the first three ending in the NFCC game or a Super Bowl. Too bad his NFL HC career came to such an abrupt end.

11.) Andy Reid - 4 CONSECUTIVE NFCC games and a losing effort in a Super Bowl in PHI, coupled with a return to the playoffs in KC as a rookie HC there, (barely missed making it a 2-fer last season), Reid's story still has chapters to be written.

12.) Marty Shottenheimer - 3 teams, (CLE, KC, & SD), and 2 decades of being the most cursed HC in NFL history, and STILL Martyball managed to compile a (200-126-1) record in regular season play and 3 AFC Championship games with 2 different teams. If it wasn't for the curse and a (5-13) playoff record, Marty would be a LOT higher up on this list.

Any one who is named belicheat does not being in the conversation
 
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