Coples impressing so far

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This season is a big one for Quinton Coples, the Jets' rush outside linebacker, Darryl Slater of NJ.com reports.

Yes, the Jets have picked up the fifth-year option in his rookie contract, which means they can retain him for 2016 — if they want to.

The Jets don't have to make a decision about Coples' 2016 contract status until next March.

At least one person in the Jets' organization likes what he's seen from Coples so far. That would be the Jets' new outside linebackers coach, Mark Collins.

"He plays with very good violence," Collins said. "He can set the edge in the run. He can finish plays in the run game. He can push the pocket. He can affect the quarterback. It doesn't mean he's always going to sack the quarterback, but he can affect the quarterback. I definitely think his arrow is pointing up."

It sounds like head coach Todd Bowles and Collins envision Coples doing a bunch more pass rushing, and less coverage — especially compared to what he did last year.

"If you're just looking at it from a common sense [standpoint], you've got a 280-pound guy, so naturally, you want him to rush the passer versus drop into coverage," Collins said. "Obviously, for him, you want him rushing the passer more than you want him dropping into coverage. But in the same sense, we're demanding, and we want him to be able to do both."

Through three seasons, Coples has accumulated modest sack numbers — 5½ as a rookie, 4½ in 2013, and 6½ last season. Still, when Collins examined Coples' film, the coach wasn't discouraged by the lack of sacks.

"I think in a lot of ways, numbers sometimes can be overrated," Collins said. "He does a lot of things. He may not have great sack production, but he does a lot of other things very well. I know he has aspirations to change that production, and I have full confidence that he will. But I think there are a lot of things that he does well."
 

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I like Coples and do think he makes an impact on the field. Let's hope Bowles creates some plays that utilize him.

I was beyond irritated last year when I was watching Coples bump Calvin Johnson at the line.
 

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I like Coples and do think he makes an impact on the field. Let's hope Bowles creates some plays that utilize him.

I was beyond irritated last year when I was watching Coples bump Calvin Johnson at the line.

When Q was a rookie he had Revis playing CB for just 2 games before he was hurt and never played another snap for the Jets till this coming season.. Revis and crew will not only help Coples this year but the whole front 7.. I seem to recall Coples led the Jets in QB hurries last year with a bit extra time they could be sacks..
 

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I have a good feeling about Coples this year. I still feel he was better suited to play on the dline but I get the move. There's no space for him.
 

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Consistency seems to be the issue with Coples. He makes plays sporadically throughout games, but disappears for long periods. I prefer him on the line, too, but it's a numbers game. Too many guys already there, and a bigger need at OLB.
 

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If he lost some more weight and dropped about 20 pounds, he would probably be a very effective pass rusher and coverage OLB. At 260 lbs, he can most likely be a very effective backer in all aspects of the game.
 
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I like Coples alot, and think he is going to have a breakout year in Bowles "Big Nickle" D. Coples biggest problem is the Jets have been using him in pass coverage on 3rd down. Waste of talent for a 6'5" 280# pass rusher to be in coverage on pass rushing downs.

Jets haven't had any one else to cover TE's in the past. I'm hoping Pryor will be the perfect fit as the "Big Nickle" and free Coples up to rush the passer. if Pryor can do it, I'm looking for big years out of both of them. Wouldn't be surprised to see Coples get 12-14 sacks this year.
 

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Antonio Allen can cover TEs. Hopefully he's back in that role


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I like Coples alot, and think he is going to have a breakout year in Bowles "Big Nickle" D. Coples biggest problem is the Jets have been using him in pass coverage on 3rd down. Waste of talent for a 6'5" 280# pass rusher to be in coverage on pass rushing downs.

Jets haven't had any one else to cover TE's in the past. I'm hoping Pryor will be the perfect fit as the "Big Nickle" and free Coples up to rush the passer. if Pryor can do it, I'm looking for big years out of both of them. Wouldn't be surprised to see Coples get 12-14 sacks this year.
it truly is exciting to envision how epic this defense can/will be!!

I mean if coples becomes a 12 to 14 sack kinda guy all bets are off!!

with decent QB play we are a dangerous playoff team, IMHO..
 
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This is really a make or break year for Coples. He's been at OLB long enough that he should pick it up and run with it at this point. I actually like his sacks numbers so far in his career. For him to become the real thing he'll need to get his sack numbers up, but given the position change, he has done well. The Jets CS just needs to hear his name called a lot more often for superlative play.
 

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With Coples, I am going to have to see it to believe it. He has a questionable motor and when he does get a pass rush, he always seems to be a step late. If he is not going to give 100% effort, then I don't care what scheme he is in, if he plays standing up or with his hand in the dirt, he is likely to disappoint.

If the new Staff can get through to him and he can give 100% effort on every play, I still think he can be something special. Would be great for this defense if he finally gets it this year.

I am skeptical.
 

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With Coples, I am going to have to see it to believe it. He has a questionable motor and when he does get a pass rush, he always seems to be a step late. If he is not going to give 100% effort, then I don't care what scheme he is in, if he plays standing up or with his hand in the dirt, he is likely to disappoint.

If the new Staff can get through to him and he can give 100% effort on every play, I still think he can be something special. Would be great for this defense if he finally gets it this year.

I am skeptical.
if couples can be a charles haley type in bowles' balls to the wall defensive style this can/will be epic!!
 
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With Coples, I am going to have to see it to believe it. He has a questionable motor and when he does get a pass rush, he always seems to be a step late. If he is not going to give 100% effort, then I don't care what scheme he is in, if he plays standing up or with his hand in the dirt, he is likely to disappoint.

If the new Staff can get through to him and he can give 100% effort on every play, I still think he can be something special. Would be great for this defense if he finally gets it this year.

I am skeptical.

As are many others. But once again, for a guy that was a DE his rookie year then switched to OLB the last two years and having to learn the position, 5.5, 4.5, and 6.5 are respectable sack numbers.

And for me (and I would advise you do the same), at this point if Coples has not shown a consistent motor, then that is what he'll always be. He's been in the league for 3 seasons and we know he's not ever going to be Julius Peppers. He's going to be another, say, Bryan Thomas?

He's just not as good as all of these scouting reports claimed. But still he can be a very important cog in our defensive scheme.
 
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With Coples, I am going to have to see it to believe it. He has a questionable motor and when he does get a pass rush, he always seems to be a step late. If he is not going to give 100% effort, then I don't care what scheme he is in, if he plays standing up or with his hand in the dirt, he is likely to disappoint.

If the new Staff can get through to him and he can give 100% effort on every play, I still think he can be something special. Would be great for this defense if he finally gets it this year.

I am skeptical.

Besides you, I have read others questioning Coples motor. I have to disagree. I have seen him chase players from side line to side line. Fight OT's off, and string running plays out. He has been a force in holding the point.

When he was moved to outside LB'er, he seemed confused, and hesitant. I think a lot of people interpreted that as no effort. He just didn't know what his role was.

Thought he had a monster year last year. Was very near the top of the NFL in QB hits and hurries. Think he had 28. When you consider he was only rushing the passer on 50% of passing downs that's pretty impressive.

Coples frequently got QB's running, or stepping up to avoid him, right into another DL. The Jets secondary was so bad last year that the hurries didn't turn into picks, and according to PFF opposing QB's were getting the ball out faster against the Jets' secondary then any other team in the league. The CB's they had just couldn't play man coverage, which is what the D was playing. TE's killed us in very quick shots over the middle, that turned into 10-15 yard gains . It's hard to finish a sack when the ball is out in 2 seconds.

That won't be the situation this year. If things go as expected, the Jets will have a much better secondary, a lot of those QB hit's and hurries will be sacks, or even better picks. I think Coples gets it, he just needs, as you said another second to close the deal. He'll get it this year. I don't think he'll be dropping in coverage half the time in Bowles D. He'll be pinning his ears back and going after the passer.

But the proof is in the pudding. I'm going with 12-14 sacks
 

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Coples impressing so far

Besides you, I have read others questioning Coples motor. I have to disagree. I have seen him chase players from side line to side line. Fight OT's off, and string running plays out. He has been a force in holding the point.

When he was moved to outside LB'er, he seemed confused, and hesitant. I think a lot of people interpreted that as no effort. He just didn't know what his role was.

Thought he had a monster year last year. Was very near the top of the NFL in QB hits and hurries. Think he had 28. When you consider he was only rushing the passer on 50% of passing downs that's pretty impressive.

Coples frequently got QB's running, or stepping up to avoid him, right into another DL. The Jets secondary was so bad last year that the hurries didn't turn into picks, and according to PFF opposing QB's were getting the ball out faster against the Jets' secondary then any other team in the league. The CB's they had just couldn't play man coverage, which is what the D was playing. TE's killed us in very quick shots over the middle, that turned into 10-15 yard gains . It's hard to finish a sack when the ball is out in 2 seconds.

That won't be the situation this year. If things go as expected, the Jets will have a much better secondary, a lot of those QB hit's and hurries will be sacks, or even better picks. I think Coples gets it, he just needs, as you said another second to close the deal. He'll get it this year. I don't think he'll be dropping in coverage half the time in Bowles D. He'll be pinning his ears back and going after the passer.

But the proof is in the pudding. I'm going with 12-14 sacks

Someone wrote " no consistent motor" in the media a long time ago and the repeaters followed suit


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I love this quote

"If you're just looking at it from a common sense [standpoint], you've got a 280-pound guy, so naturally, you want him to rush the passer versus drop into coverage," Collins said.
 

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Someone wrote " no consistent motor" in the media a long time ago and the repeaters followed suit


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I think that was his rap coming out of college so it started a while ago.
 

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Besides you, I have read others questioning Coples motor. I have to disagree. I have seen him chase players from side line to side line. Fight OT's off, and string running plays out. He has been a force in holding the point.

When he was moved to outside LB'er, he seemed confused, and hesitant. I think a lot of people interpreted that as no effort. He just didn't know what his role was.

Thought he had a monster year last year. Was very near the top of the NFL in QB hits and hurries. Think he had 28. When you consider he was only rushing the passer on 50% of passing downs that's pretty impressive.

Coples frequently got QB's running, or stepping up to avoid him, right into another DL. The Jets secondary was so bad last year that the hurries didn't turn into picks, and according to PFF opposing QB's were getting the ball out faster against the Jets' secondary then any other team in the league. The CB's they had just couldn't play man coverage, which is what the D was playing. TE's killed us in very quick shots over the middle, that turned into 10-15 yard gains . It's hard to finish a sack when the ball is out in 2 seconds.

That won't be the situation this year. If things go as expected, the Jets will have a much better secondary, a lot of those QB hit's and hurries will be sacks, or even better picks. I think Coples gets it, he just needs, as you said another second to close the deal. He'll get it this year. I don't think he'll be dropping in coverage half the time in Bowles D. He'll be pinning his ears back and going after the passer.

But the proof is in the pudding. I'm going with 12-14 sacks

I hope you are right -- and as long as he is a Jet, I will be rooting for him. But some of what you have pointed out is why he is so frustrating to me. Maybe I am being too hard on him and it is the inconsistency from moving to a new position that he is not really comfortable with, but he has had huge games. He was a beast in 2013 against New Orleans, was constantly in Roethlisberger's face during the win over Pitt this year and he looked good at the end of the season when he filled in for Mo on the D Line.

But he has also disappeared for stretches and been invisible in certain games -- especially in the first half of this past season. Admittedly, I may be projecting the often heard criticisms of his motor to assume that is why he has been so inconsistent, but when a guy like Joe Klecko says he appears to take plays off, I am going to trust that judgement.

Coples has the ability. We have seen it in flashes add in certain games. I want to see it more often.
 

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I think that was his rap coming out of college so it started a while ago.

Exactly, that was the scouting report out of college. Then it's been repeated. I challenge anyone to provide video evidence


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