2015 Predictions for Ryan Fitzpatrick

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OCCH

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Let me clarify and answer your question. Fitz is better then the Geno version of last year. Or atleast his stats would say so, I do agree. What I'm saying is with the weapons he has or would of had this year, I believe he would have had a better or just as good of a season as Fitz. That's not asking alot or any kind of big accomplishment being that Fitz is mediocre at best. Being that he won't be playing well never know but let's not act like Fitz is a savor or anything. If thats what your thinking, you need to come off the ledge.

In no way, shape, or form am I looking at Fitz as a savior -- if he can be as good as Sanchez circa 2010-11 we'll be in most games, which is all I can ask at this point.

Having said that, the only way Geno is better than Fitz is in the potential department. And if potential actually meant anything, there would be a WHOLE LOT more studs in the NFL and a lot less busts.

I know Fitz has bounced team to team, but I'll truly be shocked if Geno ends up with a career as long/productive as Fitz has had . . .
 

jets82

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In no way, shape, or form am I looking at Fitz as a savior -- if he can be as good as Sanchez circa 2010-11 we'll be in most games, which is all I can ask at this point.

Having said that, the only way Geno is better than Fitz is in the potential department. And if potential actually meant anything, there would be a WHOLE LOT more studs in the NFL and a lot less busts.

I know Fitz has bounced team to team, but I'll truly be shocked if Geno ends up with a career as long/productive as Fitz has had . . .
you know I really can blame or debate you with anything that you're saying on this post if Geno lives up to his potential then sky is potentially the limit but all he has right now is potential and that is actually the only thing that he's better then Fitz in so I will give you that and I'm glad you're not looking at Fitz as a savior so now there's no reason for you even step on the ledge, lol.
 

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Lol, whatever! If we go 11-5 or 12-4 it won't be because of Fitz. It will strictly be because of the defense and running game. In this case Geno could of done the same damn thing. If were depending on Fitz for anymore then 5-6 games, I'd say 8-8 or 7-9. This could have been the same also if Geno hasn't improved but being that we don't know, WE DONT KNOW!
To say geno, the number 32qb, could do the same as the number 15qb because you are assuming he's just going to improve is hardly scientific.
Last year, our defense would make some impressive stands despite their deficiencies, for geno to just throw an int, and put the d back on the field.

We are lucky, this timing is perfect. Had this occurred week one, Ryan would be starting with almost no first team chemistry. Now he has the preseason to learn these receivers, and geno will be back around the Bi.

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Ryan Fitzpatrick is a 32 yr old QB who has already played for and been effectively rejected by 5 teams. He' s thrown 101 INT's in 96 pro games. You do not win with talent of this type.

Another lost year coming up. Huge disappointment after this past off season
 

jets82

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To say geno, the number 32qb, could do the same as the number 15qb because you are assuming he's just going to improve is hardly scientific.
Last year, our defense would make some impressive stands despite their deficiencies, for geno to just throw an int, and put the d back on the field.

We are lucky, this timing is perfect. Had this occurred week one, Ryan would be starting with almost no first team chemistry. Now he has the preseason to learn these receivers, and geno will be back around the Bi.

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Yet another point I can't really argue or debate. However I will say this, Fitz was ranked 15th because he won't take chances and only plays it safe and does this because he doesn't have the talent to do so. So he has to play it safe. IMHO I believe Geno has the talent to take those chances.

Well it seems to be more less potential at this point with the past two years he's had then talent but we all see its there. Geno just has to put it together and maybe he never will. He just mentality doesn't seem to strong enough or intelligent enough. I was hoping that would have changed this year but I guess we'll never know. Oh well.
 

OCCH

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Ryan Fitzpatrick is a 32 yr old QB who has already played for and been effectively rejected by 5 teams. He' s thrown 101 INT's in 96 pro games. You do not win with talent of this type.

Another lost year coming up. Huge disappointment after this past off season

So Fitz is worse than Sanchez 2010?
 

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Ryan Fitzpatrick is a 32 yr old QB who has already played for and been effectively rejected by 5 teams. He' s thrown 101 INT's in 96 pro games. You do not win with talent of this type.

Another lost year coming up. Huge disappointment after this past off season

And what we know of Geno is he would have been even worse so at least you won't be that disappointed.
 

mykcuz

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Yet another point I can't really argue or debate. However I will say this, Fitz was ranked 15th because he won't take chances and only plays it safe and does this because he doesn't have the talent to do so. So he has to play it safe. IMHO I believe Geno has the talent to take those chances.

Well it seems to be more less potential at this point with the past two years he's had then talent but we all see its there. Geno just has to put it together and maybe he never will. He just mentality doesn't seem to strong enough or intelligent enough. I was hoping that would have changed this year but I guess we'll never know. Oh well.
Fitz had a reputation of throwing ints and being aggressive compared to his teammates talent. If our d can be top 3, and Fitz can be a top 18 qb, we are in fine shape. Geno gets 10 weeks to study film. He only loses the starting job if Fitz rocks. I'll take that.

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jets82

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Fitz had a reputation of throwing ints and being aggressive compared to his teammates talent. If our d can be top 3, and Fitz can be a top 18 qb, we are in fine shape. Geno gets 10 weeks to study film. He only loses the starting job if Fitz rocks. I'll take that.

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Understood
 

jets82

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Here's my thing, I'm a die hard Jets fan as you guys are and I want us to win with any QB that can get the job done. My gripe with Fitz is he's old, mediocre at best and not our future. If the Jets are competitive this year it will hardly be because of Fitz. If he plays mediocre in which he will, we can win 10 games.

If thats the case then we most likely could have gotten the same out of Geno or maybe even Petty. Now Petty I realize that's even more of a stretch then Geno but who knows. Anyway, I will routing for our team to win regardless of our QB this year. I just won't be rooting with as much excitement if its Fitz and dammit, its going to be Fitz.

I'll say his stats will be 21 tds and 13 ints. About 3100 yards passing.
 

Elias

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Let's keep this a Fitzpatrick thread and predictions on his stats. No more GS!

Losing battle....
 
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8-8 at best with Ryan Fitzpatrick at QB. He's just not a good QB. Even if his numbers would make you think otherwise, you need to understand that he's NEVER had a winning record. He does not inspire confidence in the players. Although from a player standpoint, I am sure they clearly think that Fitz is the lesser of two evils.
 
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"Let's keep this a Fitzpatrick thread and predictions on his stats. No more GS!
Losing battle...."



Thank you...
 

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We are going to have a stud defense and a very good running game. 2 of our best years were with a way worse QB in Sanchez and we came with one half in both seasons of a SB. Fitz won't wow us, but he won't crash the car either. I'm not letting a broken jaw ruin my season. I can't wait to see what we have. We had the same chance of winning 48 hours ago, the only difference is we now have no viable backup QB.
 
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Lol, whatever! If we go 11-5 or 12-4 it won't be because of Fitz. It will strictly be because of the defense and running game. In this case Geno could of done the same damn thing. If were depending on Fitz for anymore then 5-6 games, I'd say 8-8 or 7-9. This could have been the same also if Geno hasn't improved but being that we don't know, WE DONT KNOW!
Not even close IMO

You just posted that Ryan Fitzpatrick will deliver 21 TDs and 13 INTs.

That would be our BEST QB performance on five seasons. I'd sign for that today. And with our D and running game 21/13 might just win the division
 

mykcuz

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This is a team sport. Fitz play meshes into our game plan. I don't think he will Crack the top 10qb mark, even if he has a breakout year. But I think he is capable of sustaining drives, executing the game plan, and keeping our d fresh and off the field.
This year's plan was to give geno every chance to succeed in order to find out if he has a future with jets, sink or swim. Fitz was considered a capable starter, and now we are forced into the switch. But we are switching to Fitz, a guy who this management team always considered a capable qb. His numbers aren't great, but he's been on shitty talentless teams. Titans? In Houston, he started to rip it up last year until breaking his leg. He now has the most complete team around him, he's ever had. He's old enough to be wise, but also has lost some down the field accuracy. He can be a crutch until geno recovers, petty is developed, or another qb is drafted. Fitz has football left in him.

My prediction is that in however many games he ultimately starts, he will be middle of the road. Which would be a huge improvement over what we've had the last 5 years. He will have a 2-1 td-int ratio, and can be a good game manager for us.
I predict by week 5, he will have 12td-7int and have 3 or more wins.

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Namath12

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I realize that Fitz played well last year, but to me he is a below average quarterback. Yes, he will not make the horrific decisions that Gino made, but...he has a poor arm. The euphoria will die down when you see that he can't throw the deep out that is a staple of any NFL offense. There will be moans and groans when you watch his deep throws hang. This will be a huge problem because our opponents will only have to defend a 20 yard area. Remember the difficulties Pennington had when teams started to use press coverages against our receivers, even before his shoulder injuries, let alone afterwards? The problem is exacerbated by the fact that we have solid backs, but no one who is a breakaway threat. In fact, the running game is likely to suffer because there will be no way to stretch the defense.
Some might respond with, "Yes, but Fitz had the same arm last year and had a terrific year." My answer is that Fitz had a good year with the Bills, was given a big contract, and was ditched by them. I would add that the situation will really get bad when the winter winds arrive. And, why was Fitz available to the Jets this year?
Please don't construe my post as a defense of Gino. He was the worst decision maker I have ever seen. However, I was hoping that with a new offense that he could have been taught to make better decisions. Probably not, but I would have liked to find out. It's possible for a qb to learn to make better decisions. It's not possible to teach arm strength.
Is Fitz a better qb than Geno right now? Yes, but people are deluding themselves if they think that Fitz is the solution at the most important position. Being the anti-Geno does not make you a good quarterback.
 

mykcuz

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I realize that Fitz played well last year, but to me he is a below average quarterback. Yes, he will not make the horrific decisions that Gino made, but...he has a poor arm. The euphoria will die down when you see that he can't throw the deep out that is a staple of any NFL offense. There will be moans and groans when you watch his deep throws hang. This will be a huge problem because our opponents will only have to defend a 20 yard area. Remember the difficulties Pennington had when teams started to use press coverages against our receivers, even before his shoulder injuries, let alone afterwards? The problem is exacerbated by the fact that we have solid backs, but no one who is a breakaway threat. In fact, the running game is likely to suffer because there will be no way to stretch the defense.
Some might respond with, "Yes, but Fitz had the same arm last year and had a terrific year." My answer is that Fitz had a good year with the Bills, was given a big contract, and was ditched by them. I would add that the situation will really get bad when the winter winds arrive. And, why was Fitz available to the Jets this year?
Please don't construe my post as a defense of Gino. He was the worst decision maker I have ever seen. However, I was hoping that with a new offense that he could have been taught to make better decisions. Probably not, but I would have liked to find out. It's possible for a qb to learn to make better decisions. It's not possible to teach arm strength.
Is Fitz a better qb than Geno right now? Yes, but people are deluding themselves if they think that Fitz is the solution at the most important position. Being the anti-Geno does not make you a good quarterback.
Just so you know, Brady and Manning can't throw the deep ball any longer, and I think every nfl team would trade for them at 40.
I think everyone agrees that our management made some smart moves in their first off season, and mac daddy came to us from Houston! He knows Fitz.
Houston is devoted to sorting out younger QBs to take advantage of there down turn. We are doing the same with geno and petty. Fitz was traded for as a short term capable qb. No one thinks he's our franchise qb,so I don't get how people here are assuming others ate thinking he is. But he certainly can thrive in this offense and be a place holder, while managing us into a playoff run.

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jets82

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8-8 at best with Ryan Fitzpatrick at QB. He's just not a good QB. Even if his numbers would make you think otherwise, you need to understand that he's NEVER had a winning record. He does not inspire confidence in the players. Although from a player standpoint, I am sure they clearly think that Fitz is the lesser of two evils.
Thank you for opening my eyes. Guess I gave him more credit then I should have and was being alot more optimistic and counting on our D and running game to carry us more. Now that I look at it your probably right its an 8-8 season with Fitz. I said 10-6 counting strictly on the D and running game and him playing it safe (LIKE REAL SAFE) and not screwing up many games. I said he would have 21 tds and 13 ints with 3100 yards. Maybe that was giving him to much also.

Note: This is why I've been hoping and saying since Geno's injury that MAYBE JUST MAYBE things will click for Petty during pre-season and the rest of camp and he'll force their hand to play him from game one like Wilson did in Seattle. Fingers crossed!

Besides, I can handle and I'd rather go 8-8 with Petty knowing he's developing to be our future QB then to go 8-8 with that wash out QB in Fitz.
 

jets82

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I realize that Fitz played well last year, but to me he is a below average quarterback. Yes, he will not make the horrific decisions that Gino made, but...he has a poor arm. The euphoria will die down when you see that he can't throw the deep out that is a staple of any NFL offense. There will be moans and groans when you watch his deep throws hang. This will be a huge problem because our opponents will only have to defend a 20 yard area. Remember the difficulties Pennington had when teams started to use press coverages against our receivers, even before his shoulder injuries, let alone afterwards? The problem is exacerbated by the fact that we have solid backs, but no one who is a breakaway threat. In fact, the running game is likely to suffer because there will be no way to stretch the defense.
Some might respond with, "Yes, but Fitz had the same arm last year and had a terrific year." My answer is that Fitz had a good year with the Bills, was given a big contract, and was ditched by them. I would add that the situation will really get bad when the winter winds arrive. And, why was Fitz available to the Jets this year?
Please don't construe my post as a defense of Gino. He was the worst decision maker I have ever seen. However, I was hoping that with a new offense that he could have been taught to make better decisions. Probably not, but I would have liked to find out. It's possible for a qb to learn to make better decisions. It's not possible to teach arm strength.
Is Fitz a better qb than Geno right now? Yes, but people are deluding themselves if they think that Fitz is the solution at the most important position. Being the anti-Geno does not make you a good quarterback.
Love this post and you are so right on the money here. Bravo, hands clap and Bravo again!
 
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