Listening to Sirius Radio...IF the Redskins want to trade RG III

[Seaver41]

amazing how fans and media talk about this guy as if he was ever a legit NFL QB. He's a gimmick QB that relied heavily upon his legs to make plays. One big problem for RG3, they have the large sized passing windows he saw in college. He simply can't win from the pocket and his contract is the only thing making him relevant.

 

[Johnny Unite Us]

I would never give up any sort of compensation, nor would I pay, an athletic quarterback who has been run out of another NFL city. Athletic quarterbacks either get it or they don't. And, usually they don't.

I'd much rather have a cerebral journeyman QB who's been passed prom team to team than an athletic QB who doesn't understand the pro game and is no longer athletic.

Let Griffin take his larger than life personality and big smile to the broadcast booth or the studio where it belongs.

Maybe he can host a show with Akili Smith and Jamarcus Russell.

 

[maxmet]

Jets should pass on RG3

Here's my prediction on RG3 next steps

- no team will trade for him - because a trade brings with it a 16 million contract next year guaranteed against injury

- Skins will not cut him now. They want to give him time to be cleared medically, activated. Maybe play some minutes in a couple of games. The goal - brutally - is to establish that he is not injured so they dont get the 16 million obligation. Dont know whether they will have him play in a game, but they should want him cleared, active for a game or two, full practice participant

- Once they have enough evidence that he isnt injured, they can just cut him - that may be during this season, might be at end of season. I bet they get him cleared and active for game 2.

 

[Jetsfanatic]

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-je...jets-dont-even-think-about-robert-griffin-iii

Interesting opinion from Cimini.

 

[flgreen]

Memo To Jets: Don't Even Think About RG III

Memo To Jets: Don't Even Think About RG III

Memo to Jets: Don't even think about Robert Griffin III
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Rich Cimini, ESPN Staff Writer

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- It's far down on the list, but one of the downsides to not having an iron-clad quarterback situation is being linked to every high-profile quarterback that becomes available -- and even those with not-so-high profiles. You're familiar with the chatter: They should sign (insert name). Trade a draft pick for (insert name). The talking heads and the rabid fans think they have all the answers.

Which brings us to Robert Griffin III, who went from the Washington Redskins' starter to an afterthought in the time it takes to spell "District of Columbia." There's already buzz on the radio and on fan sites about how the New York Jets should make a move for Griffin III.

RG III to the Jets?

My response to that: RU Kidding? It would be their worst personnel decision since they traded for some guy named Tim Tebow in 2012.

First of all, there is no trade market for him because of his contract, which includes a $16 million salary in 2016 that is guaranteed for injury. No team in its right mind would take on that contract, considering his durability issues.

Redskins coach Jay Gruden, who benched the concussed Griffin on Monday in favor of Kirk Cousins, said the former face of the franchise isn't going anywhere. Don't bet on it. Considering the sharp turns in recent days, it wouldn't be a shock of RG III is released.

Even then it would be the wrong move for the Jets. Their quarterback situation is far from ideal, but they have two experienced options who already know the offense. They should ride QB Ryan Fitzpatrick for as far as his Harvard brain can take them, turning back to Geno Smith if it becomes necessary. And that's your 2015 season. When it's over, they should re-evaluate the situation, determining if young Bryce Petty can be part of the solution. Griffin could be a consideration at that point, but only then -- only if they're desperate and only if he re-works his contract.

Could you imagine the circus if the Jets signed RG III during the season? They've already experienced a punch to the jaw; this would be a kick in the stomach. This isn't a one-week fantasy league; this is the NFL. Griffin hasn't been a good quarterback since 2012, and he has enough baggage to fill the guest room at owner Woody Johnson's mansion.

On Monday, coach Todd Bowles was asked if he has any interest in Griffin. Obviously, the league's tampering rules prohibited a substantial comment.

"He's on the Redskins and we have our guys right now," Bowles said. "That's not my concern."

If RG III becomes available, the Jets should do what he hasn't done very well the past couple of years:

Pass.

 

[Jetsfanatic]

On Mike & Mike this morning they were discussing the possibility of him landing with the Eagles. They think Chip Kelly would love him.

 

[BigDan]

Memo to Jets: Don't even think about Robert Griffin III
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Rich Cimini, ESPN Staff Writer

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- It's far down on the list, but one of the downsides to not having an iron-clad quarterback situation is being linked to every high-profile quarterback that becomes available -- and even those with not-so-high profiles. You're familiar with the chatter: They should sign (insert name). Trade a draft pick for (insert name). The talking heads and the rabid fans think they have all the answers.

Which brings us to Robert Griffin III, who went from the Washington Redskins' starter to an afterthought in the time it takes to spell "District of Columbia." There's already buzz on the radio and on fan sites about how the New York Jets should make a move for Griffin III.

RG III to the Jets?

My response to that: RU Kidding? It would be their worst personnel decision since they traded for some guy named Tim Tebow in 2012.

First of all, there is no trade market for him because of his contract, which includes a $16 million salary in 2016 that is guaranteed for injury. No team in its right mind would take on that contract, considering his durability issues.

Redskins coach Jay Gruden, who benched the concussed Griffin on Monday in favor of Kirk Cousins, said the former face of the franchise isn't going anywhere. Don't bet on it. Considering the sharp turns in recent days, it wouldn't be a shock of RG III is released.

Even then it would be the wrong move for the Jets. Their quarterback situation is far from ideal, but they have two experienced options who already know the offense. They should ride QB Ryan Fitzpatrick for as far as his Harvard brain can take them, turning back to Geno Smith if it becomes necessary. And that's your 2015 season. When it's over, they should re-evaluate the situation, determining if young Bryce Petty can be part of the solution. Griffin could be a consideration at that point, but only then -- only if they're desperate and only if he re-works his contract.

Could you imagine the circus if the Jets signed RG III during the season? They've already experienced a punch to the jaw; this would be a kick in the stomach. This isn't a one-week fantasy league; this is the NFL. Griffin hasn't been a good quarterback since 2012, and he has enough baggage to fill the guest room at owner Woody Johnson's mansion.

On Monday, coach Todd Bowles was asked if he has any interest in Griffin. Obviously, the league's tampering rules prohibited a substantial comment.

"He's on the Redskins and we have our guys right now," Bowles said. "That's not my concern."

If RG III becomes available, the Jets should do what he hasn't done very well the past couple of years:

Pass.

I am so glad that circus atmosphere is gone....

 

[NickSINYC]

I respect you green and believe you are doing what the the higher ups want but IMO I personally do not like unneeded repetitive threads. I think I have made that point many times before.

 

[jetgreen13]

griffin hasn't played well since flourishing in the gimmick offense the shanahan's designed for him his rookie year.. they knew he was light years away from being a legitimate "pocket passer.." now because his body has betrayed him in his mid 20's he can't even go back to that style of play & even if he could, the league has figured him out as well as the amateurish offensive play calling..

plus his leadership qualities & respect level in his locker room are on par with smith's with a much bigger ego, IMHO..

LOLz i didn't even feel the need to bring up the back end of his rookie contract..

 

[flgreen]

I respect you green and believe you are doing what the the higher ups want but IMO I personally do not like unneeded repetitive threads. I think I have made that point many times before.

There was another thread on this Article?

 

[hobson54]

There was another thread on this Article?

not on the specific article, but there is already a thread discussing the theoretical of should the jets trade for RGIII. so i gotta agree with nick that i find it needless to have 2 threads discussing RGIII.

 

[NickSINYC]

There was another thread on this Article?

No but there was one on RG3 I know we don't agree on how the board is run so it's best I just read and Post less

 

[Johnny Unite Us]

Jets should pass on RG3

Here's my prediction on RG3 next steps

- no team will trade for him - because a trade brings with it a 16 million contract next year guaranteed against injury

- Skins will not cut him now. They want to give him time to be cleared medically, activated. Maybe play some minutes in a couple of games. The goal - brutally - is to establish that he is not injured so they dont get the 16 million obligation. Dont know whether they will have him play in a game, but they should want him cleared, active for a game or two, full practice participant

- Once they have enough evidence that he isnt injured, they can just cut him - that may be during this season, might be at end of season. I bet they get him cleared and active for game 2.

I think you're right. He'll be released after the season. At that point he'll have four years of service, so he won't have to clear waivers or anything like that, he'll become an unrestricted free agent.

 

[jetgreen13]

No but there was one on RG3 I know we don't agree on how the board is run so it's best I just read and Post less

Nick you're a good poster & carry yourself very much like a gentleman.. but for the life of me why multiple threads on a similar topic irks you so?? i could if JFU was a high volume board (i believe it will be some day, BTW) I could see your point.. but we aren't there yet..

hope you don't stop posting as much.. a growing board needs as many active quality posters as possible..

 

[NickSINYC]

Nick you're a good poster & carry yourself very much like a gentleman.. but for the life of me why multiple threads on a similar topic irks you so?? i could if JFU was a high volume board (i believe it will be some day, BTW) I could see your point.. but we aren't there yet..

hope you don't stop posting as much.. a growing board needs as many active quality posters as possible..

Thanks for your kind words I try to be respectful even when I don't agree with someone. I think the problem for me is we come from different boards that where run in different ways.

 

[Namath12]

Nick,

From a selfish point of view, I hope that you keep posting with the same frequency. Going back to JI, your posts were always interesting to read and were well reasoned, even if I disagreed with your opinion on a topic.

 

[jetgreen13]

Thanks for your kind words I try to be respectful even when I don't agree with someone. I think the problem for me is we come from different boards that where run in different ways.

hey, you're a grown up, if you feel a certain way about the old JI board so be be it.. JFU is a fresh start for former JI members as well as scout.. who's a more accommodating host then [MENTION=2]Elias[/MENTION]?? you might be surprised how rare a quality that is for admins on other jets board.. test the waters & I believe you'll find out for yourself fairly quickly..

 

[Elias]

Thanks for your kind words I try to be respectful even when I don't agree with someone. I think the problem for me is we come from different boards that where run in different ways.

There are some philosophical differences and it is hard to make everyone happy. I understand that, however, Flgreen, renegade, Sack and I had a discussion on the topic of opening threads and i think we came up with a pretty good resolution that can make both sides of the aisle somewhat happy. It puts more work on the mods but we all said we were fine with it. I've just been so damn slow and haven't been focusing as much on it because i have been spending some time studying for the GMAT. I'll send tonight. I am leaving work a bit early today because i am not feeling well....

Anyways, just to clarify my thoughts on this topic, quite frankly, I don't care which way we go. I just want it to grow organically into something that everyone can enjoy. In terms of me pushing/leaning towards a different way, that's not the case. I did previously mention that every time a new thread is created it send an automatic tweet. There's no evidence that this has brought on any new posters, i don't track that. We get people that register every so often but i don't track how people find us. Most of the time, they are just one and done and don't sign on again. Weird. Being an advocate for MORE NEW POSTS is unproductive if the userbase that we currently have is against it.

Stay tuned on the "policy". I think we'll be alright.

Just to reiterate what JG13 said, you're all class and it would suck to not see you post as much. I'd say 95% of the people on here are class acts. lol

 

[Elias]

hey, you're a grown up, if you feel a certain way about the old JI board so be be it.. JFU is a fresh start for former JI members as well as scout.. who's a more accommodating host then [MENTION=2]Elias[/MENTION]?? you might be surprised how rare a quality that is for admins on other jets board.. test the waters & I believe you'll find out for yourself fairly quickly..

Thanks. This is a fresh start for all! Hell, FLgreen is not even a JI poster but he gets lumped in with us. Guilty by association lol.

I try to be accommodating to all and i truly believe there is nothing that can't be solve. Both sides have to give and take. It's not like we are curing cancer or world hunger, we are here to discuss the NY Jets!

 

[OCCH]

There was another thread on this Article?

Believe it or not, your question PERFECTLY defines the philosophical difference between the two boards.

Coming from JI, I don't like clicking an old link over and over, just to find that the majority of the time it's not "new" material, but just a continuation of an old conversation. When there's actually something NEW (like an article) I'd rather find out by seeing a thread on it. So to your question "was there another thread on this Article?" the answer is NO, there wasn't.

But I also understand that there was already a thread on the TOPIC of the article. As soon as I saw Nick's response I knew which thread he was referring to. So that's where the dividing line lies -- when is something considered "threadworthy"?

I don't know if you want to take a poll to see how the majority of the posters feel, or if you just want to stay status quo (as I can't imagine it's a site-destroying decision). But there's never going to truly be agreement on the issue when it's obvious both sides define the issue so differently . . .