Those are Chandler's stats with the Bills. Gailey was there in 11 and 12. I guess not the best numbers (I was wrong) but i expected the same production from Amaro.
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Those are Chandler's stats with the Bills. Gailey was there in 11 and 12. I guess not the best numbers (I was wrong) but i expected the same production from Amaro.
Ok... here's the thing. I'm not sure Gailey used the H back in Buffalo, as well as a TE, or not. If he did, then Bohannon/Enunwa would cover that..... and I think Cumbersome/Stone Hands Davis combined could attribute 40 catches. I have just read that Gailey is not know for his TE's producing big numbers
Rd 6-#209, 1st C-Pick in that round.
Not necessarily the best WR left on the board at that point but perhaps the best WR/H-Back/blocker left in 2014 for this edition of the Jets offense - not that Idzik saw that coming.
HYATT™ thinks most of you do not understand what Q's utility will be, which is to become a possession receiver who can get YAC in the middle, coming out of the slot OR out of the backfield after a chip-block.
At 225# he's a little light to be a full-time H-Back / blocking TE, but will serve as an alternate to putting a RB back there.
His 4.44s speed is better than a lot of starting RBs around the league - the question is how low can he get hitting the LoS, (leverage), at 6'-2".
Put it this way, he has to be a better blocker than 6'-2" Dustin Keller ever was, doesn't he?
Here's a good article on Enunwa.
During Saturday night's game, something stuck out about the way the Jets were using wide receiver Quincy Enunwa. While nominally a wide receiver, it seemed like the Jets were using Enunwa as a tight end. Many people have noted Enunwa possibly replacing Jeremy Kerley as the third receiver on the roster. It felt like he was just as much subbing for an injured Jace Amaro.
Todd Bowles made reference to it today.
Eric Allen @eallenjets
Bowles on Enunwa as a hybrid WR/TE: He's kind of a tweener. It gives the opposition a problem. Kind of an interesting guy.
There are definitely instances in the NFL when a coach will not be candid about a player's role. In this case, Bowles word did match with the way the Jets used Enunwa.
Two weeks ago, I did my best to outline the two different tight end positions the Jets will use.Saturday night, we saw Enunwa working as an h-back.
On the first play of the night, the Jets got Enunwa on the move and got him the ball from the H spot for a 10 yard gain.
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On the next drive, Enunwa actually throws a block that helps spring Chris Ivory for a gain of 12.
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Enunwa proceeded to line up as an H at other points in the first half of Saturday's game.
What's the point of all of this? Like Bowles said, it is an attempt to create mismatches.
The first thing to acknowledge is that Enunwa is unlikely to make an impact as a conventional receiver this season. The Jets have a lot of talent at wide receiver. (How strange and awesome is it to hear that?) They are finding a way to use his skills.
The Jets want the other team to make a choice. Do they want to keep a linebacker on the field and potentially have a linebacker one on one in coverage with a guy who has wide receiver skills and is timed in the 4.4 range? Do they want to replace a linebacker with a defensive back? Then he might get swallowed by a 225 pound physical receiver who played in a run heavy offense in college and thus has a lot of experience blocking.
This makes me wonder whether there is a dimension people are missing when it comes to Jeremy Kerley's seemingly reduced role. Might the Jets be moving to more two tight end sets and working less with three receivers? Do they want more Enunwa and perhaps Amaro when Jace gets healthy?
For all of Kerley's fanfare, his production last year was pedestrian. It isn't crazy to think Enunwa or Amaro could duplicate his 38 catches, 409 yards, and 1 touchdown. It might not just be about the passing game, though. Amaro and Enunwa are bigger. They might not be great blockers, but they can help more in the run game than Kerley. This is particularly true if they can create the types of mismatches in the passing game that force a defense to replace a linebacker with a defensive back. (I know. I know. Kerley had a good PFF run blocking grade last year. Those don't always show context.)
This sounds great in theory. It might not work out. It depends on whether Enunwa can catch balls in traffic, utilize his athletic edge, run good routes, block effectively, and show the other skills requires. We all know measurables alone don't make a player effective. We would be talking about what a matchup problem Stephen Hill otherwise.
I just enjoy outside the box thinking like this. Whenever a coach isn't beholden to rigid position labels like, "This guy is a wide receiver. This guy is a tight end," I approve. Today's NFL doesn't work that way. It is about finding a way to use a player's skillset to create favorable matchups. The way Bowles did this with his defense in Arizona made me a fan. I like to see the same kind of thinking at work in New York.
http://www.ganggreennation.com/2015/8/31/9235983/quincy-enunwa-the-hybrid
During Saturday night's game, something stuck out about the way the Jets were using wide receiver Quincy Enunwa. While nominally a wide receiver, it seemed like the Jets were using Enunwa as a tight end. Many people have noted Enunwa possibly replacing Jeremy Kerley as the third receiver on the roster. It felt like he was just as much subbing for an injured Jace Amaro.
Todd Bowles made reference to it today.
Eric Allen @eallenjets
Bowles on Enunwa as a hybrid WR/TE: He's kind of a tweener. It gives the opposition a problem. Kind of an interesting guy.
There are definitely instances in the NFL when a coach will not be candid about a player's role. In this case, Bowles word did match with the way the Jets used Enunwa.
Two weeks ago, I did my best to outline the two different tight end positions the Jets will use.Saturday night, we saw Enunwa working as an h-back.
On the first play of the night, the Jets got Enunwa on the move and got him the ball from the H spot for a 10 yard gain.
On the next drive, Enunwa actually throws a block that helps spring Chris Ivory for a gain of 12.
Enunwa proceeded to line up as an H at other points in the first half of Saturday's game.
What's the point of all of this? Like Bowles said, it is an attempt to create mismatches.
The first thing to acknowledge is that Enunwa is unlikely to make an impact as a conventional receiver this season. The Jets have a lot of talent at wide receiver. (How strange and awesome is it to hear that?) They are finding a way to use his skills.
The Jets want the other team to make a choice. Do they want to keep a linebacker on the field and potentially have a linebacker one on one in coverage with a guy who has wide receiver skills and is timed in the 4.4 range? Do they want to replace a linebacker with a defensive back? Then he might get swallowed by a 225 pound physical receiver who played in a run heavy offense in college and thus has a lot of experience blocking.
This makes me wonder whether there is a dimension people are missing when it comes to Jeremy Kerley's seemingly reduced role. Might the Jets be moving to more two tight end sets and working less with three receivers? Do they want more Enunwa and perhaps Amaro when Jace gets healthy?
For all of Kerley's fanfare, his production last year was pedestrian. It isn't crazy to think Enunwa or Amaro could duplicate his 38 catches, 409 yards, and 1 touchdown. It might not just be about the passing game, though. Amaro and Enunwa are bigger. They might not be great blockers, but they can help more in the run game than Kerley. This is particularly true if they can create the types of mismatches in the passing game that force a defense to replace a linebacker with a defensive back. (I know. I know. Kerley had a good PFF run blocking grade last year. Those don't always show context.)
This sounds great in theory. It might not work out. It depends on whether Enunwa can catch balls in traffic, utilize his athletic edge, run good routes, block effectively, and show the other skills requires. We all know measurables alone don't make a player effective. We would be talking about what a matchup problem Stephen Hill otherwise.
I just enjoy outside the box thinking like this. Whenever a coach isn't beholden to rigid position labels like, "This guy is a wide receiver. This guy is a tight end," I approve. Today's NFL doesn't work that way. It is about finding a way to use a player's skillset to create favorable matchups. The way Bowles did this with his defense in Arizona made me a fan. I like to see the same kind of thinking at work in New York.
http://www.ganggreennation.com/2015/8/31/9235983/quincy-enunwa-the-hybrid
As usual, everybody in the media is a buck short and a year late to the HYATT™ party.
HYATT™ damn-near wrote as much last season, before he got injured - and why HYATT™ mentioned him replacing Kerley's production soon, a month ago already.
These NY hacks really are plagiarizing cretins. Isn't the first time and won't be the last, I suppose.
I think gaileys mouth is watering, this team is built for his system. He has his qb, he has a great group of receivers all the way down the depth chart. He has a power back and Powell.Here's a good article on Enunwa.
During Saturday night's game, something stuck out about the way the Jets were using wide receiver Quincy Enunwa. While nominally a wide receiver, it seemed like the Jets were using Enunwa as a tight end. Many people have noted Enunwa possibly replacing Jeremy Kerley as the third receiver on the roster. It felt like he was just as much subbing for an injured Jace Amaro.
Todd Bowles made reference to it today.
Eric Allen @eallenjets
Bowles on Enunwa as a hybrid WR/TE: He's kind of a tweener. It gives the opposition a problem. Kind of an interesting guy.
There are definitely instances in the NFL when a coach will not be candid about a player's role. In this case, Bowles word did match with the way the Jets used Enunwa.
Two weeks ago, I did my best to outline the two different tight end positions the Jets will use.Saturday night, we saw Enunwa working as an h-back.
On the first play of the night, the Jets got Enunwa on the move and got him the ball from the H spot for a 10 yard gain.
On the next drive, Enunwa actually throws a block that helps spring Chris Ivory for a gain of 12.
Enunwa proceeded to line up as an H at other points in the first half of Saturday's game.
What's the point of all of this? Like Bowles said, it is an attempt to create mismatches.
The first thing to acknowledge is that Enunwa is unlikely to make an impact as a conventional receiver this season. The Jets have a lot of talent at wide receiver. (How strange and awesome is it to hear that?) They are finding a way to use his skills.
The Jets want the other team to make a choice. Do they want to keep a linebacker on the field and potentially have a linebacker one on one in coverage with a guy who has wide receiver skills and is timed in the 4.4 range? Do they want to replace a linebacker with a defensive back? Then he might get swallowed by a 225 pound physical receiver who played in a run heavy offense in college and thus has a lot of experience blocking.
This makes me wonder whether there is a dimension people are missing when it comes to Jeremy Kerley's seemingly reduced role. Might the Jets be moving to more two tight end sets and working less with three receivers? Do they want more Enunwa and perhaps Amaro when Jace gets healthy?
For all of Kerley's fanfare, his production last year was pedestrian. It isn't crazy to think Enunwa or Amaro could duplicate his 38 catches, 409 yards, and 1 touchdown. It might not just be about the passing game, though. Amaro and Enunwa are bigger. They might not be great blockers, but they can help more in the run game than Kerley. This is particularly true if they can create the types of mismatches in the passing game that force a defense to replace a linebacker with a defensive back. (I know. I know. Kerley had a good PFF run blocking grade last year. Those don't always show context.)
This sounds great in theory. It might not work out. It depends on whether Enunwa can catch balls in traffic, utilize his athletic edge, run good routes, block effectively, and show the other skills requires. We all know measurables alone don't make a player effective. We would be talking about what a matchup problem Stephen Hill otherwise.
I just enjoy outside the box thinking like this. Whenever a coach isn't beholden to rigid position labels like, "This guy is a wide receiver. This guy is a tight end," I approve. Today's NFL doesn't work that way. It is about finding a way to use a player's skillset to create favorable matchups. The way Bowles did this with his defense in Arizona made me a fan. I like to see the same kind of thinking at work in New York.
http://www.ganggreennation.com/2015/8/31/9235983/quincy-enunwa-the-hybrid
Maybe we see some 5wr sets
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Blaming Idzik for a completely unpredictable injury...
The Idizk hate has reached new heights. Like anyone could've predicted this.
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Explaining why loss of Jace Amaro isn't crippling for Jets
FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- So now what happens at tight end for the New York Jets?
On paper, it's bleak. With Jace Amaro (shoulder surgery) lost for the season, their only experienced players are Jeff Cumberland and Kellen Davis, neither of whom is a receiving threat. Ordinarily, this would be cause for alarm, but the Jets might be able to skirt disaster because Chan Gailey's passing offense isn't tight end-based.
If Gailey leans toward the system he used as the Buffalo Bills' coach from 2010 to 2012, the Jets will be all about the wide receivers. In those three seasons (covering 2,989 offensive snaps), he employed a four-receiver package a league-high 586 times, according to ESPN Stats & Information. He used three receivers for 1,669 snaps, fifth in the league. He used two tight ends for only 341 snaps, 32nd in the NFL.
If the preseason is an indication, Gailey appears to be taking the same approach. Only five of the Jets' 51 completions have gone to tight ends, including only one to Cumberland.
The emergence of Quincy Enunwa as a potential contributor also could be a factor in the overall strategy. It might be a stretch to say he's a hybrid wide receiver/tight end, but he has the size (6-foot-2, 225 pounds) and blocking skills to handle some tight-end responsibilities. This is one of the reasons why they're smitten with him, dropping Jeremy Kerley on the receiver depth chart.
Todd Bowles called Enunwa a "tweener," saying he could create a matchup advantage.
"It gives the opposition a problem as to what they're going to play, base or sub," Bowles said. "If it's sub, he can go ahead and block some of the smaller guys. If it's base, hopefully he can outrun some of the bigger guys. He's kind of an interesting guy that can do both."
Truth be told, the Jets weren't sure how to use Amaro, who doesn't block a lick. Acknowledging his deficiency as a blocker, they started calling him an H-Back, saying they planned to move him around the formation. It sounded great, except he doesn't have the speed and acceleration of the new-age tight ends you see across the NFL. You get the feeling the new regime considers him a square peg in an offense filled with round holes.
No doubt, general manager Mike Maccagnan will be searching for a tight end over the next few days, but it probably won't be a high-profile addition. One player to watch is Joseph Fauria of the Detroit Lions. The Lions just acquired Tim Wright in a trade, dropping Fauria to fourth on the depth chart. As a rookie in 2013, he showed promise, scoring seven touchdowns on 18 receptions.
Bottom line: Because of the way they play offense, the Jets can survive the loss of Amaro.
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/53739/explaining-why-loss-of-jace-amaro-isnt-crippling-for-jets
FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- So now what happens at tight end for the New York Jets?
On paper, it's bleak. With Jace Amaro (shoulder surgery) lost for the season, their only experienced players are Jeff Cumberland and Kellen Davis, neither of whom is a receiving threat. Ordinarily, this would be cause for alarm, but the Jets might be able to skirt disaster because Chan Gailey's passing offense isn't tight end-based.
If Gailey leans toward the system he used as the Buffalo Bills' coach from 2010 to 2012, the Jets will be all about the wide receivers. In those three seasons (covering 2,989 offensive snaps), he employed a four-receiver package a league-high 586 times, according to ESPN Stats & Information. He used three receivers for 1,669 snaps, fifth in the league. He used two tight ends for only 341 snaps, 32nd in the NFL.
If the preseason is an indication, Gailey appears to be taking the same approach. Only five of the Jets' 51 completions have gone to tight ends, including only one to Cumberland.
The emergence of Quincy Enunwa as a potential contributor also could be a factor in the overall strategy. It might be a stretch to say he's a hybrid wide receiver/tight end, but he has the size (6-foot-2, 225 pounds) and blocking skills to handle some tight-end responsibilities. This is one of the reasons why they're smitten with him, dropping Jeremy Kerley on the receiver depth chart.
Todd Bowles called Enunwa a "tweener," saying he could create a matchup advantage.
"It gives the opposition a problem as to what they're going to play, base or sub," Bowles said. "If it's sub, he can go ahead and block some of the smaller guys. If it's base, hopefully he can outrun some of the bigger guys. He's kind of an interesting guy that can do both."
Truth be told, the Jets weren't sure how to use Amaro, who doesn't block a lick. Acknowledging his deficiency as a blocker, they started calling him an H-Back, saying they planned to move him around the formation. It sounded great, except he doesn't have the speed and acceleration of the new-age tight ends you see across the NFL. You get the feeling the new regime considers him a square peg in an offense filled with round holes.
No doubt, general manager Mike Maccagnan will be searching for a tight end over the next few days, but it probably won't be a high-profile addition. One player to watch is Joseph Fauria of the Detroit Lions. The Lions just acquired Tim Wright in a trade, dropping Fauria to fourth on the depth chart. As a rookie in 2013, he showed promise, scoring seven touchdowns on 18 receptions.
Bottom line: Because of the way they play offense, the Jets can survive the loss of Amaro.
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/53739/explaining-why-loss-of-jace-amaro-isnt-crippling-for-jets
who is this idzik you speak of??
If you remember the 1978 classic Halloween, he is referred to around here as the boogeyman. A favorite target of Jets fans who don't know who else to blame for 4-12.
Wrecks is jumping on the slam wagon, too. "Jace is a good kid. He just made some stupid comments".
Stupid comments? Sure Rex. Keep denying your culpability in last season. You're a standup guy, Wrecks!
my favorite horror film of all time!!
so this idzik is a killer of NFL drafts??
sounds like michael has some competition..
a new halloween is coming out BTW.. it's supposed to take place after john carpenter's halloween 2 storyline wise..
i believe it's place holder name is "halloween returns.."
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The worst of all of John Idzik's draft picks is, unfortunately still cluttering up the Jets roster. Hopefully that gets fixed NLT the end of this season.
I understand blaming Idzik for an injury that just occurred is not right, but with the number of picks he had he did nothing. No starters! A possible one at Safety. One of the worst drafts we ever had. Everyone of us on this site had predicted a better draft.
Some think he shoulda got ten - in the pen - for his crimes.
Say this 3 times really fast;
Idzik sing-sing
Idzik sing-sing
Idzik sing-sing
Doncha feel better now?
Idzik wasn't anything special. I agree he didn't get as much as he should've with the 12 picks. But his drafts and FA moves weren't that bad. Richardson went dummy after the draft, and had no problems I know of at Missouri. He turned into a very good pick. Some of his other draft picks were decent. Jury still out on Amaro and Pryor. Enumwa could be a keeper. Ivory was a brilliant pickup, and Decker was also a solid move that wasn't an overpay.
Again, glad Macc's here now. But this isn't as bad a two year track record as some suggest.
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Yeah, see, we have this small problem with players who masturbate in parking lots playing on our team.
:wtf-face-smiley-emo
Yeah, see, we have this small problem with players who masturbate in parking lots playing on our team.
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