New York Jets at Houston Texans Game Thread

[Atljet60]

So many reasons why we lost today. But what I've seen lately:
Our OL is no longer dominate in the run game. Very little push to open holes for Ivory. Is it the injuries to Colon and Nick? I'm sure that part of it. But 4 games of that? The plan should have compensated for the losses. Everybody knows the key to making us struggle is to crowd the line and jump the quick passes. We used to have success spreading the formation with 4 and 5 receivers, and make teams play more honest against that. If our OL isn't solid why would putting a rookie at QB make sense? It would just lead to other mistakes. Plus, how does a coach convince players that Petty gives us the best chance to win? I agree that we need a spark, but the vets just need to do their damn jobs.

Where is our dominating defense and where is our special teams? We were getting six off turnovers and scoring in the red zone. Now it takes us a half to get interested in playing. Maybe it's time to sit some vets and see what the second string can do. Our QB play is only part of the problem. Let's face it our defense isn't playing 60 minutes, and the tackling is shoddy. And other phases aren't winning enough battles to be effective.

Time is the time of year where teams begin to put things together. We need our run game back! Coaches, players wake the F%$# up! You owe it to the fans who spend their bucks and time to support you. Come up with some answers and do your damn jobs!

 

[jetgreen13]

So many reasons why we lost today. But what I've seen lately:
Our OL is no longer dominate in the run game. Very little push to open holes for Ivory. Is it the injuries to Colon and Nick? I'm sure that part of it. But 4 games of that? The plan should have compensated for the losses. Everybody knows the key to making us struggle is to crowd the line and jump the quick passes. We used to have success spreading the formation with 4 and 5 receivers, and make teams play more honest against that. If our OL isn't solid why would putting a rookie at QB make sense? It would just lead to other mistakes. Plus, how does a coach convince players that Petty gives us the best chance to win? I agree that we need a spark, but the vets just need to do their damn jobs.

Where is our dominating defense and where is our special teams? We were getting six off turnovers and scoring in the red zone. Now it takes us a half to get interested in playing. Maybe it's time to sit some vets and see what the second string can do. Our QB play is only part of the problem. Let's face it our defense isn't playing 60 minutes, and the tackling is shoddy. And other phases aren't winning enough battles to be effective.

Time is the time of year where teams begin to put things together. We need our run game back! Coaches, players wake the F%$# up! You owe it to the fans who spend their bucks and time to support you. Come up with some answers and do your damn jobs!

spot on post 60..

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

I'm not sure what your expectations were, but 5-5 at this point isn't exactly way out of line. I thought they were a 9, maybe 10 win team with the additions they made. I still think they are, as of now, 8, maybe 9.

It looks awful because they have been so atrocious in the past four games or so, and that is understandable. But unless your expectations were of a 12 or 13 win season, this team hasn't exactly underwhelmed.

Expectations always change if you get off to a fast start. What you thought at the outset changes dramatically if the team is winning. Some Jets fans may have started off as pessimists, others were taking a wait and see attitude, but when they started 4-1 and looked pretty good doing it, even for the pessimists the expectations were raised, and rightfully so.

As for me, my expectations after a 4-1 start were pretty consistent with my expectations prior to the season opener. I viewed this as a playoff team, talent wise, and with a soft schedule I thought they could win double digit games. I think I predicted 11-5 (before the infamous broken jaw made Fitz the starter), again, partly because of the talent and partly because of the schedule. So I was not surprised by the 4-1 start and I do think this team has badly underachieved since then. Its almost like they lost their confidence and went in the tank following that loss to NE.

Lastly, FULL DISCLOSURE, the one major concern I had for this team was at QB. Despite all of my optimism about the team as a whole, I did believe poor QB play could undermine it all, and to be honest, I did not expect Fitzpatrick to play as well as he has for the most part, obviously not counting the Texans game, but I give him a pass because he just had surgery and he's playing injured where most QB's probably would have been given this week off to recover.

Anyway, I thought we had a playoff team but the QB was suspect. As it turns out, the QB has been better than the team as a whole in my view. Not over the first five games, at that point the QB was playing well and so was the team around him, it was pretty much the team I had expected, but since then I see some serious underachieving and its alarming. I know Bowles likes to keep an even keel, don't get too high or too low, and a team usually reflects its coaches demeanor, but this has been a different team since NE beat them. Even in that game I felt like they outplayed NE for the most part, but it seems like losing that game affected this teams psyche a lot more than I thought it would following that loss.

 

[Oraelo]

I think metjetgal put it best. I really want to like Bowles too but after his hot start he has been making it very hard to be excited about this team. Some of his decisions have been head scratchers. I'm certainly not ready to give up on him, but I am much less enthusiastic about our future until he starts showing some positive adjustments.

 

[usapaw]

If it was Rex you would say he has lost the team..

 

[The Wicker Man]

Bowles is starting to worry me a little. It's still very early in his tenure but my confidence level in him has dipped. I really hope we don't start referring to him as Todd "Blowes". Imo, we need to win 4 out the next 6 to make the playoffs.... Maybe even 5/6. Doesn't look too promising.


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[BlindsideD'Brick]

So many reasons why we lost today. But what I've seen lately:
Our OL is no longer dominate in the run game. Very little push to open holes for Ivory. Is it the injuries to Colon and Nick? I'm sure that part of it. But 4 games of that? The plan should have compensated for the losses. Everybody knows the key to making us struggle is to crowd the line and jump the quick passes. We used to have success spreading the formation with 4 and 5 receivers, and make teams play more honest against that. If our OL isn't solid why would putting a rookie at QB make sense? It would just lead to other mistakes. Plus, how does a coach convince players that Petty gives us the best chance to win? I agree that we need a spark, but the vets just need to do their damn jobs.

Where is our dominating defense and where is our special teams? We were getting six off turnovers and scoring in the red zone. Now it takes us a half to get interested in playing. Maybe it's time to sit some vets and see what the second string can do. Our QB play is only part of the problem. Let's face it our defense isn't playing 60 minutes, and the tackling is shoddy. And other phases aren't winning enough battles to be effective.

Time is the time of year where teams begin to put things together. We need our run game back! Coaches, players wake the F%$# up! You owe it to the fans who spend their bucks and time to support you. Come up with some answers and do your damn jobs!

Is it any coincidence that the minute our run blocking started sucking that our team started losing? Ivory was running it like a madman during 4-1. During the last 5 games, he's been hit so many times behind the LOS it's sickening. I think it's an enormous reason for the Jets struggles.

 

[Atljet60]

Is it any coincidence that the minute our run blocking started sucking that our team started losing? Ivory was running it like a madman during 4-1. During the last 5 games, he's been hit so many times behind the LOS it's sickening. I think it's an enormous reason for the Jets struggles.

These are the weeks where the run game is crucial. The cold weather months are here. If this doesn't get fixed soon the season with all the promise will be lost. We can't keep expecting Fitz to throw us a win. There has to be balance and we need to score points from somewhere. Anywhere! The defense isn't scoring; and our special teams aren't even creating positive field position. It's putting too much pressure on our defense to keep us in games. We have to get up early and play with a lead. Too many times it takes us being down two scores to get things going. We're not built to play from behind.

 

[lounap23]

The dumbest play of the year:

Twelve men on the field after a timeout.

Ryan-esque

The absolute worst..... The bigger problem was calling the timeout!!!

 

[SackExchange]

If it was Rex you would say he has lost the team..

If it was Rex, his supporters would be raving about exceeding all the expectations for the team.

 

[flgreen]

Bowles is starting to worry me a little. It's still very early in his tenure but my confidence level in him has dipped. I really hope we don't start referring to him as Todd "Blowes". Imo, we need to win 4 out the next 6 to make the playoffs.... Maybe even 5/6. Doesn't look too promising.


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Way to early for me to start throwing Bowles under the bus. It is only his 10th game.

but your right. When you watch the games, certain CS decisions just don't sit right. They have been a part of the problem.

It's seems a bit absurd, but it's always been said that a team takes on it's coaches personalty. The Jets seem to have taken on Bowles low key, no urgency, "there's always next week" personalty. We'll see how this plays out.

BTW if things go bad with Bowles, I don't think we'll have to manipulate his name. Bowles should work quite well.

 

[Elias]

Way to early for me to start throwing Bowles under the bus. It is only his 10th game.

but your right. When you watch the games, certain CS decisions just don't sit right. They have been a part of the problem.

It's seems a bit absurd, but it's always been said that a team takes on it's coaches personalty. The Jets seem to have taken on Bowles low key, no urgency, "there's always next week" personalty. We'll see how this plays out.

BTW if things go bad with Bowles, I don't think we'll have to manipulate his name. Bowles should work quite well.

Toilet Bowles haha

 

[jetgreen13]

Toilet Bowles haha

LOLz jeezbus, come on coach bowles, way to much ripe material to epic fail!!

seriously though, bowles let his team know today the party is officially over..

earn you keep, or good luck with your future endeavors..

 

[flgreen]

Toilet Bowles haha

LOL

When the Jets initially hired him I thought, "man this guy better be good, with that name it's going to be to easy"

ToiletBowles was the first thing that came to my mind

 

[jetgreen13]

LOL

When the Jets initially hired him I thought, "man this guy better be good, with that name it's going to be to easy"

ToiletBowles was the first thing that came to my mind

someone at the other forum has "bolwes movment.."

how the hell can you make that your username??

LOLz jeezbus!!

 

[Elias]

someone at the other forum has "bolwes movment.."

how the hell can you make that your username??

LOLz jeezbus!!

Lmao

 

[McJet]

Well with the Bills losing, there is a logjam at 5-5.If the Jets can get their act together and start playing some inspired football, ripoff the next three Miami, Giants and Titans maybe they can salvage this season that starting to swirl down the Bowles. :4:Couldn't help it.

 

[BigDan]

The last few weeks this team has looked half asleep for most of each game. And lazy defensive moves as well. How many times have we seen a defender pull up while still a step or 2 away from his target, obviously assuming 'the guy on the other side will stop him'?

There is no intensity at all. You watch other teams play, even bad teams, they play like their lives depend on it. Not us. Half-stepping all the way.

I have come to believe that something is wrong in that locker room: maybe they don't like the coach, maybe there is a nasty dispute between warring factions. I can't believe that 'couldn't care less' attitude has taken hold for no good reason.

And Bowles seems in a coma on the sidelines. Where is the fire? He's starting to have that 'deer in the headlights' look at times, and his choices seem inspired by guessing...

One of the few playing with intensity is Fitz, and maybe Ivory to a degree. And Fitz took that hit, after which it was obvious he didn't know where he was for 10 seconds. Scary stuff...

 

[jetgreen13]

The last few weeks this team has looked half asleep for most of each game. And lazy defensive moves as well. How many times have we seen a defender pull up while still a step or 2 away from his target, obviously assuming 'the guy on the other side will stop him'?

There is no intensity at all. You watch other teams play, even bad teams, they play like their lives depend on it. Not us. Half-stepping all the way.

I have come to believe that something is wrong in that locker room: maybe they don't like the coach, maybe there is a nasty dispute between warring factions. I can't believe that 'couldn't care less' attitude has taken hold for no good reason.

And Bowles seems in a coma on the sidelines. Where is the fire? He's starting to have that 'deer in the headlights' look at times, and his choices seem inspired by guessing...

One of the few playing with intensity is Fitz, and maybe Ivory to a degree. And Fitz took that hit, after which it was obvious he didn't know where he was for 10 seconds. Scary stuff...

good post..

the general lack of intensity since the 4-1 start is flat out alarming & that is on bowles.. period.. he's a rookie HC, so you got to give the guy a pass year one on what kind of coach he may or may not end up being..

but i would be lying if i said i'm not concerned with what i'm seeing from bowles & the way his team is responding during this awful stretch.. we look like a ship without a rudder..

win, lose or draw, it's unacceptable to play without passion 5 games running..

welcome to JFU BD2..

 

[flgreen]

someone at the other forum has "bolwes movment.."

how the hell can you make that your username??

LOLz jeezbus!!

Yeah, he's a Troll playing like he's a Jets' fan