Jets Hope Fitz Will Start; Geno Smith Not a 'Serious' Option

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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Only three months ago, the New York Jets were planning to go into the season with Geno Smith as their starting quarterback. One punch changed everything, and now the separation between him and Ryan Fitzpatrick is so great that the Jets are prepared to start Fitzpatrick and his surgically repaired left thumb over a healthy Smith in Sunday's gotta-have-it game against the Houston Texans.

On Monday, Todd Bowles said he hasn't made a final decision, but he indicated Fitzpatrick will start as long as he shows he can handle the post-op pain, meaning he shows up for Wednesday's practice and demonstrates the ability to take snaps and execute handoffs with his left hand. You get the feeling that they'd sooner use Fitzpatrick in shotgun on every play before entrusting Smith with the game and, possibly, their season.
The notion of giving Fitzpatrick a week off entered the coach's mind, but it didn't get very far.


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"It was a thought, but it wasn't a serious thought," Bowles said. "Everything that was conveyed to us is that he'd probably be able to play if everything went well [in surgery] -- and everything went well. But you have to wait until Wednesday to see what his pain tolerance is."
Translation: It would have taken an amputation for Bowles to make a quarterback change this early in the week.
Two thumbs are better than one, but Bowles evidently doesn't believe Smith's eight other fingers (plus his right arm and head) can get the job done. No doubt, Fitzpatrick is the better man for the job, but there's always some gray area when the starter is less than 100 percent. At what point does Smith become the better option?
Bowles can't afford to make the wrong decision. Maybe, if they were 6-3, he'd be more inclined to give Fitzpatrick a little extra time to heal. That luxury doesn't exist. Mired in a 1-3 slump, the Jets (5-4) are losing their margin for error. They can't give away a game against the very beatable Houston Texans (3-5), who face the Cincinnati Bengals on Monday night.
As expected, Fitzpatrick -- three days removed from surgery -- didn't practice Monday. In fact, he remained at home, recuperating. Smart move. Bowles said he's "hopeful" that Fitzpatrick will practice on Wednesday and "hopeful" he will play on Sunday in Houston, but he wouldn't say it's etched in stone.
"I'm not sure," Bowles said. "I have to see how he looks and how he takes snaps. It would be unfair for me to say he's going to be fine. I'm not a doctor."
Bowles said it's conceivable that Fitzpatrick could practice only once (Friday) and get the start, depending on how he looks. If he doesn't practice at all, he's not playing, according to the coach.
Fitzpatrick is coming off his worst game -- two interceptions in Rex Bowl I -- but he's still ranked seventh in the league in Total QBR (70.1). Smith made his season debut two weeks ago, replacing the injured Fitzpatrick, and it was a typical Geno performance -- a few nice throws, but a couple of moments that left people shaking their heads.
"I'm fine with him starting," said Bowles, responding to a hypothetical question. "He's made great progress. He's learned a lot under Ryan. He threw the ball well in Oakland for the most part, so if he has to play, we'll keep moving."
Clearly, Bowles would rather not see it come to that.
 

jetgreen13

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geno smith will never take another meaningful snap for us again unless fitzpatrick just can't go.. JMO anyway..
 

johnnysd

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I am starting to think that Bowles is an idiot. All of his personnel decisions are very very questionable.
 

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I am starting to think that Bowles is an idiot. All of his personnel decisions are very very questionable.


I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. Idiot?

I have no problem with Bowles going for the TD on 4th and goal to try to win the game. Kellen Davis couldn't turn around in time. That's not on Bowles. And the short passes that got stopped were play calls by Gailey, not Bowles.

As Bowles said, "you're a genius when they work, and a goat when they don't". Basically, it's execution, or lack thereof. I think all this Bowles bashing is just the usual fan frustration that comes from reading too much of our beat writers. Not to say that Bowles hasn't made some mistakes. All coaches do, especially rookies. But his supposed "gaffes" in decision making are overstated, IMO.
 

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Which ones in particular?

I am referring to personnel decisions not in game decisions (which are questionable as well)

Such as:

1. Completely ignoring special teams in terms of players on the roster. April may very well suck, but Bowles seems to have almost a disdain for special teams and it is showing. No real attempt to upgrade kick returner or punt returner. No gunner, just no quality special teams guys.

2. Continuing to keep Cro as starter when it has been obvious for over a month that he is a shell of his former self.

3. Using Mauldin only a few snaps a game

4. Continuing to rely on Pace

5. Sticking with a 4 man front, when it is pretty obvious that Wilkerson, Williams Mo and Snacks are less effective all on the field at the same time instead of 3 and a big nickel

6. Ignoring Kerley in the offense

7. Not using Reilly at all even as late game rusher

8. Keeping Davis and Harris in on obvious passing downs instead of bringing in big nickel or better pass rush

9. Continuously using Davis and Harris in drop back coverage which they suck at

10. Cutting Walter Powell

11. Cutting Rontez Miles

12. Not cutting Milliner (debatable)

13. Others, but that is what I can think of off the top of my head

I also personally think continuing to start Fitz is dumb but not on the list since many agree with that move.
 
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I am referring to personnel decisions not in game decisions (which are questionable as well)

Such as:

1. Completely ignoring special teams in terms of players on the roster. April may very well suck, but Bowles seems to have almost a disdain for special teams and it is showing. No real attempt to upgrade kick returner or punt returner. No gunner, just no quality special teams guys.

he might not be ignoring it but their are only so many options out there there is no NFL store. Bobby April is just having a bad year his specials are usually very good and I wouldn't count him out yet.

2. Continuing to keep Cro as starter when it has been obvious for over a month that he is a shell of his former self.

it's more than just keeping him a starter yes he might not be as good but he is not a turnstile and can still make some big plays, the fact cro knows the defense could be bigger than him playing right now.

3. Using Mauldin only a few snaps a game

Again very short sightedness here the playbook is huge and depending on the opponet we do not know if mauldin knows all the plays or is in that defensive package. Do you really want mauldin in packages where he hasn't practiced or played? I think bowles are bringing him and reilly along slowly.

4. Continuing to rely on Pace

a nfl veteran who has been in almost every type of situation should be relied upon until the next batch is ready to go full time which I don't think mauldin or reilly are.

5. Sticking with a 4 man front, when it is pretty obvious that Wilkerson, Williams Mo and Snacks are less effective all on the field at the same time instead of 3 and a big nickel

The opponet dictates what are the best defensive packages simple as that.

6. Ignoring Kerley in the offense

maybe that is because kerley sucks and should be our number 4 wr, for every catch you see him make there are 5 plays where he can't even break coverage and get open.

7. Not using Reilly at all even as late game rusher

again we don't know what packages he has practiced maybe he was never in the 2 minute drill yet we don't know.

8. Keeping Davis and Harris in on obvious passing downs instead of bringing in big nickel or better pass rush

9. Continuously using Davis and Harris in drop back coverage which they suck at

10. Cutting Walter Powell

11. Cutting Rontez Miles

12. Not cutting Milliner (debatable)

13. Others, but that is what I can think of off the top of my head

I also personally think continuing to start Fitz is dumb but not on the list since many agree with that move.


he is a first year coach who has had 1 draft to bring his people in we are 4-3 which many said we would be lucky to win 6 games all year and he is a first time coach he will make mistakes as he learns but you can't keep throwing out all the bad and ignoring the good he has done for this franchise already.
 
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Jets backup quarterback Geno Smith just can't stop making bad decisions
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, November 16, 2015, 10:36 PM A A A


Hopefully, the light bulb will go on inside Geno Smith’s head sometime soon, but the attic is enveloped in darkness for now.

The mercurial backup quarterback exercised poor judgment yet again in the aftermath of the Jets’ loss to the Bills last week, which makes you wonder whether he’ll ever get it. Smith is 25, but sometimes acts like he’s 2 or 5.

There’s an immaturity that bubbles underneath the surface. He’s wired differently. He is not a leader of men.



Smith reportedly called a media member asking for a postgame interview a “d---head” after declining the request in the locker room at MetLife Stadium last Thursday. The third-year signal caller declined to speak to reporters on Monday to provide further explanation.

The incident could be overlooked if not for Smith’s litany of poor choices that will likely make this his final season with the Jets. It’s the latest in a string of troubling behavior for a guy who plays a position of leadership in his sport.

A successful NFL quarterback must possess more than a strong arm. He must make smart decisions on and off the field. He must inspire and galvanize teammates. Smith is 1 for 5.

Todd Bowles is the embodiment of a leader, so it was curious that he didn’t discuss this latest misstep with Smith. The head coach told Calvin Pryor that the safety doesn’t have to tell the world everything on his mind in the wake of critical comments about Rex Ryan.

Bowles should have taken a similar approach with Smith, whose behavior was unprofessional and unacceptable.

“(Depending) on the circumstances, it could have not been his fault,” Bowles said of the incident.

“He’s a grown man. He can say what he wants. From what I heard, he didn’t say anything disrespectful... and that he didn’t fire back... It was no big deal. It was a passing shot.”




Passing shots aren’t acceptable from anyone, especially quarterbacks, who are supposed to be leaders. Can you imagine Ryan Fitzpatrick making such remarks in the locker room? Not happening.

Rookie quarterback Bryce Petty wouldn’t display such childish behavior, either.

“I’m sure you’ve heard it quite a few times in your lifetime around the (locker) room,” Bowles said of Smith’s word choice. “I’m sure it’s not the first time. He’s fine.”

Smith is “a different kind of guy,” as one of the members of his inner circle once told me. Remember, this is the same guy who hurled obscenities at a fan twice after a loss to the Lions last season. Woody Johnson later called Smith’s behavior that day “unacceptable."

There are too many prior examples of Smith’s enigmatic personality to simply dismiss this latest one (See: FaceTime exposure, flight attendant flap and missing team meeting).

His jaw-breaking locker room incident with IK Enemkpali in August altered his face and career path. It also revealed how little real support Smith actually has in the locker room. Jets players spent more time last week admitting that they are still cool with Enemkpali than actually backing Smith.

If you’re truly friends with a teammate, whose career was forever changed by a “sucker punch,” wouldn’t you stick up for your buddy? Not a single Jets player took that tack last week. Brandon Marshall, in fact, is the only player to consistently support Smith this season.

Bowles said Monday that he’s “fine” with Smith starting against the Texans this week if Fitzpatrick, who’s recovering from left thumb surgery, can’t go.

“He’s making great progress,” Bowles said of Smith. “He’s learned a lot under Ryan…. If he has to play, we’ll just keep on moving.”

That’s the doomsday scenario for a 5-4 team entering a critical juncture of the season.

Fitzpatrick in a full body cast is probably preferable to a healthy Smith to the Jets these days.

The organization hasn’t given any serious consideration to resting Fitzpatrick an additional week for good reason. They don’t trust the wildly inconsistent Smith, who is 4-11 as a starter on the road.


On and off the field, Smith's decision making since being drafted has been less than ideal.
Bowles pointed to Fitzpatrick’s pain tolerance as the determining factor. If he can’t handle the pain, take snaps under center and execute handoffs, he won’t play. (Spoiler alert: He’s playing.)

Smith doesn’t have a long-term future with the organization. The smart money: Bowles & Co. will draft a quarterback in the offseason and move on from Smith. Re-signing Fitzpatrick to be a bridge to Petty and/or a rookie would make sense.

Smith needs to find a new home, where the spotlight isn’t as glaring. He hasn’t handled the crucible of the New York/New Jersey market particularly well. There are moments when you think that he has turned the corner, moments that provide a glimmer of hope that he understands the big picture. Then, another unfortunate incident arises.

When will the next one happen?

“I don’t think he’s a bad guy,” Bowles said.

The coach is right. He’s not a bad guy. He’s also not a leader.http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...ource=twitter.com&utm_campaign=mmehta+twitter
 
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