Will the NFL be around in 100 years?

nycdan

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In the next 100 years...

Yes, the sport of football will be around.

Yes, it will be different as it can't continue the way it is currently structured without injuries continuing to get worse and worse. Protective gear will improve but the rules will also change, making it slightly more of a finesse game.

No, the Jets will probably not have won a second Super Bowl.
 

Savage69

Pro Bowl 1st Team
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If the Chinese take a liking to football, then football will be around in 100 years. If they don't, then we'll all be playing ping pong.

Actually the rest of the world does love football except we call it Soccer..
 

Elias

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Here's a good article on how the NFL is changing from NY Times. Nothing new is being discussed that we haven't heard already but it does reiterate that the league is changing and it's all about throwing the ball. I hope we can get a decent QB and air it out a little. Ground and Pound is a thing of the past.

On Pro Football
By BEN SHPIGEL
As Tony Romo, the Dallas Cowboys’ quarterback, dropped back to pass last Sunday in an N.F.L. playoff game, the Green Bay Packers’ Clay Matthews dashed past an offensive lineman and into the backfield.

Sensing pressure, Romo stepped to his right. He threw an incomplete pass as Matthews closed in, then braced himself for a hit that never came. Instead of leveling him, Matthews, one of the league’s most fearsome linebackers, pulled up. The only contact was a chest bump, and Matthews raised his hands to signal that he had done nothing wrong.

This is what football can look like in the concussion-era N.F.L., a climate in which some of the brutal hits that long appealed to fans are increasingly a fading memory as quarterbacks, long the most protected players on the field, and receivers are given free rein to dazzle. Through rules changes, stricter enforcement, and player fines and suspensions, the N.F.L. in recent years has sought to remove the most extreme violence from an inherently violent sport.

The effect can be seen in the record books and in the television ratings, in pass-happy and high-scoring games that have spurred the N.F.L. to ever greater viewership. The biggest beneficiaries are the game’s most recognizable stars — the quarterbacks who have largely been free of serious injury and are leading the most dynamic passing offenses in league history.


Graphic | By Many Measures, It’s a Quarterbacks’ LeagueRules changes to protect quarterbacks and receivers have resulted in a further explosion in passing offense.
This season, more touchdown passes (804) were thrown and a greater percentage of passes were completed (62.6 percent) than ever before. Teams called pass plays 60.3 percent of the time, according to the Football Outsiders database. Nine quarterbacks threw at least 30 touchdowns. Previously, the season high for quarterbacks reaching that mark was five — in 2013, 2012, 2011 and 2010.


Including the postseason, according to ESPN Stats and Information, the four quarterbacks in Sunday’s conference championship games — Tom Brady of New England, Andrew Luck of Indianapolis, Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay and Russell Wilson of defending champion Seattle — have accounted for at least 72 percent of their teams’ offenses.

“We’re all smart enough to know that the marquee quarterbacks are one of the reasons why so many fans are interested in football,” said the former N.F.L. coach Steve Mariucci, now an analyst for NFL Network. “If we lose a Brett Favre or a Peyton Manning or an Aaron Rodgers for the season, the league isn’t the same, the interest isn’t the same, and the production and quality of the football isn’t the same.”

Mariucci served as Favre’s position coach in Green Bay in the mid-1990s, when Favre began his streak of 321 consecutive starts, and he began tracking how many other quarterbacks would play every game in a season. In 1992, the year Favre’s streak began, there were eight. In 1993 and 1994, seven.

“That was back when they were hitting quarterbacks in the head, hitting them in the leg,” Mariucci said. “It was like kill the quarterback and you win.”

No longer. In 2012, a staggering 20 quarterbacks started every game. Last season, it was 17. This season, there were 16 — including 9 playing for the 12 playoff teams.

A serious knee injury to Brady precipitated a clarification of a rule that has aided him and his passing brethren. When he tore a knee ligament in the Patriots’ first game of 2008, league owners reacted during the off-season by outlawing the sort of tackle that hurt him — a defender on the ground lunging at a quarterback’s lower legs. At those same meetings, owners voted to assess a 15-yard penalty for hitting a defenseless receiver in the head.

If the increasing specialization of quarterbacks and the proliferation of spread offenses had been urging the N.F.L. toward its transformation into a passing league, then those rule changes — and others — only accelerated the process.

Penalties for defensive holding — often called on defenders seeking to slow receivers with a grab of the jersey or an arm blocking the way — have increased in the last four seasons, allowing receivers to run routes mostly unimpeded.

Illegal contact, called on defenders who touch receivers more than 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, was re-emphasized by officials in 2004 after New England defenders mugged the Colts in the A.F.C. title game, and again last off-season after the Seahawks’ hulking defensive backs thwarted Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos in the Super Bowl. Teams committed an average of 3.28 illegal contact penalties this season, compared with 1.19 in 2013, according to NFLPenalties.com.

Tackling, one of the sport’s fundamental elements, is more restricted than ever. Defenders like Matthews must stop themselves if they are two steps from a quarterback in the pocket who has released the ball — though, to be fair, on Sunday he did not always do so. When they do tackle, it cannot be too high — that’s a hit to the head. Or too low — that could hurt the knees.

“Through my six years, I’ve learned when you need to pull off and when you can perform a legal hit, so that was one of those I probably would have got us a flag if I was to have gone through with it,” Matthews said of the aborted hit on Romo. “That’s part of the job responsibility for guys in my position who have chances to hit the quarterback. You just have to know when you can go through with the hit as well as when you need to pull off.”

There are similar constraints when trying to bring down receivers, lest a defender be called for a penalty known somewhat ominously as targeting.


“There’s a certain physicality that you just can’t play with anymore,” said the former N.F.L. safety Adam Archuleta, now an analyst for CBS. “In this current climate, I really don’t know how as a defensive player you can possibly do your job the way it’s traditionally supposed to be done.”

He added: “You see defensive players turning down hits, whereas 10 years ago, if you did the same thing, you wouldn’t survive your meeting room because you’d be exposed and you’d be called out. Your courage and your toughness would be questioned, let’s just say that. That’s real. Now you almost have to turn down certain hits because you’re protected by the rules. All you have to tell your coach is, ‘I didn’t want to get a 15-yard penalty.’ “

Offenses around the league are capitalizing on that vulnerability. A popular saying in football — that three things can happen when the ball is thrown, and two (incompletions and interceptions) are bad — no longer seems to apply. Teams are far more willing to throw downfield, especially on third-and-long, Mariucci said, because of the possibility of drawing illegal contact, pass interference or a helmet-to-helmet call.

“I think teams take advantage of that,” said Patriots safety Devin McCourty, who added: “I think that’s why you see a lot of change even in the secondary with different guys playing safety and different guys being on the field. You see more defensive backs just everywhere, whether it be in a so-called linebacker position just to try to outwork a passing game because of how it is now.”

Archuleta retired before the 2008 season, before his attitude when bearing down on a quarterback — “to saw him in half and get the best shot you possibly could on him” — became obsolete. Recently, he said, he spoke with a defensive coordinator who told him that he no longer blitzed as much because the gains no longer outweighed the risks. Even if the blitz did not produce a sack, the defender would still hit the quarterback, wearing him down.

When asked Wednesday whether he felt any safer in the pocket than he used to, Rodgers praised the league for instituting the changes, particularly on defenseless players, but acknowledged that hazards still existed.

“Avoiding the hits high,” Rodgers said, “but it also brings in the hits at knee level, which I think are dangerous as well.”

A common complaint among defensive players is that however hard they try to avoid helmet-to-helmet contact, they find it almost impossible to account for a last-second movement by a receiver that results in such a hit. When Bart Scott played linebacker in the N.F.L., he would sometimes see defenders, furious about a fine for a high hit they perceived as unfair, try to tackle low, around an opponent’s knees.

Scott mentioned Broncos safety T. J. Ward, who, when he played for Cleveland last season, delivered a low hit on Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski that resulted in torn knee ligaments.

“Hit you in the head, maybe you get a concussion; hit you in the legs, you’re not going to play again,” Scott said, adding: “Gronkowski, how do you think I’m going to take him down? You’re telling me he’s defenseless and he outweighs me by 50 pounds and he’s running full speed and I’m coming from the side and weigh 205 pounds? I can’t hit him high, well, I’ll chop him down like a tree.”

Gronkowski did not stay down for long. Returning nine months after his injury, he again formed a formidable tandem with Brady. Among tight ends, Gronkowski’s 1,124 receiving yards and 12 touchdowns led the league.

Ken Belson, Pat Borzi and Peter May contributed reporting.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/01/18/sports/football/as-rules-protect-quarterbacks-nfl-defenses-are-on-the-defensive.html?_r=0&referrer=
 

Green Jets & Ham

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If the Nanny State mentality continues to expand and is not thwarted, the NFL will go the way of the dinosaur.

I'm hopeful that at some point people will have enough of this shit and take their country back from "the experts" who want to control every aspect of their lives right down to the amount of water in their septic tanks and the wattage of the lightbulbs in their homes, but hey, if you had told in the 1970's that the Nanny State and its bureaucracy would be as omnipotent, omnipresent and oppressive as it already is I never would have believed it, so I guess people will accept creeping statism so long as it comes incrementally and "the experts" recommend it.

Anyway "the experts' clearly have the NFL targeted for extinction, or at least severe wussification, to the point where it no longer resembles the game we grew up with.
 
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sg3

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I'm out at the poconos with a bunch of my friends and we are debating about the NFL and whether or not the sport as we know it now will be around in the next 100 years.

A friend of mine is in the opinion that it might not survive. There will be a sport called the NFL but it may not be the game we recognize today. People are getting bigger and stronger due to the science available to us today and eventually the high impact collisions will lead to a death which will change everything.

What are your thoughts?
Don't know about the NFL but pretty certain I'll be in Calverton by then
 

Johnny Unite Us

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yep keep wussifying america

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the wussification of America is going to continue, gain ground, and become the ruling doctrine of this nation.

Football sites like this are the last bastion of American masculinity.

Trust me, 20 years from now football will be gone and there will be professional cooking and knitting leagues. There will be sites like this dedicated to which team will win the Tampax Cup, or the Massingill Trophy. It's coming, prepare yourselves.

And, there will be women on message boards like this, with bare-chested men as their avatars and our fat hairy butts in their sig-lines.

And, they will dress us up like Ken Dolls, and march us around like arm-candy.

Trust me, it's coming.
 
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flgreen

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LOL


Renegade what are you doing? Like cats, threads die when their time comes. Let the recently departed rest in peace.

:)
 
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ucrenegade

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well it is slow news and no football so thought the new people would like some conversation.
 
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Matriculator

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If they can't fix the concussion problem, then it will become extinct in time. I think I read that over 30,000 concussions in the amateur ranks annually go reported. It's unknown how many are not reported but it doesn't take much to realize this is a problem for the league. Continued cover-ups and ensuing lawsuits will follow with your occasional death mixed in with a few suicides but the American people are a stubborn breed and will willingly place their heads in the sand. They love their gladiators. And they will justify the existence of the NFL at all costs like the classic line "they know what they're getting into".

Player safety is supposedly at the forefront of the NFL's agenda. That's why kickoffs and punts remain - the leading cause of concussions. And Thursday night games are a mainstay - another attribute to "player safety" as Sherman eloquently pointed out. The NFL is playing Russian roulette by not more aggressively leading the cause towards safety. I applaud them for the tackling change and focus of spearing but they need to do more if they want to protect their investment down the road IMO. But that's their business.
 
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