Adam Schefter: Jets QB coach can 'rescue' Christian Hackenberg

[Elias]

This is an old article but good to see that our QB coach has a reputation as a "QB guru"


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Don’t be surprised if the Jets take a quarterback with the sixth pick in the NFL draft despite picking Christian Hackenberg in the second round last year.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter, in an appearance on Rich Eisen’s show, recently said the Jets will be the first team to take a quarterback in the upcoming draft despite the addition of Josh McCown.

However, Schefter believes there is another Gang Green offseason addition that isn’t getting enough attention.

That would be quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates.

“Everybody is overlooking the Jets’ biggest quarterback acquisition this offseason, with that being Jeremy Bates,” Schefter said on the Rich Eisen Show Wednesday afternoon. “Jeremy Bates is a quarterback guru, and I think he can do a lot of good for Christian Hackenberg. If there is anybody that can revive or rescue his career that would be the guy and I think that they are optimistic.”

Bates hasn’t coached since 2012 when he was the Bears QB coach. There he reunited with Jay Cutler, whom he last coached in 2008 when he was with the Broncos.

The two had success working together. Now, the Jets are hoping Bates and Hackenberg have a similar relationship.

Here’s Schefter’s full appearance on Eisen’s show

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http://jetswire.usatoday.com/2017/04/07/adam-schefter-jets-qb-coach-can-rescue-christian-hackenberg/

 

[jetgreen13]

how does someone revive & rescue hackenberg's career before he's taken an regular season NFL snap??

it annoys me that so many believe it's a foregone conclusion the kid can't play..

look, maybe he can't play but i'm still excited to see/hear what he does in OTAs/training camp/preseason/regular season..

 

[mykcuz]

how does someone revive & rescue hackenberg's career before he's taken an regular season NFL snap??

it annoys me that so many believe it's a foregone conclusion the kid can't play..

look, maybe he can't play but i'm still excited to see/hear what he does in OTAs/training camp/preseason/regular season..

His mechanics have issues, that can be fixed. His accuracy was off, as he throws high a lot, mechanics may fix that also. Hee has great size and instincts. I like hack as a project and for his potential. You're right, people are acting like he's uncoachable and that's just not the case.

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[jetgreen13]

His mechanics have issues, that can be fixed. His accuracy was off, as he throws high a lot, mechanics may fix that also. Hee has great size and instincts. I like hack as a project and for his potential. You're right, people are acting like he's uncoachable and that's just not the case.

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a lot of "monkey see, monkey do" going on..

 

[Xmarco]

Would love if Hack shows he is THE Man... I wanted him last year and still have faith in him...Get a WR, RB and Someone who can pressure and sack the QB

 

[Mainejet]

how does someone revive & rescue hackenberg's career before he's taken an regular season NFL snap??

it annoys me that so many believe it's a foregone conclusion the kid can't play..

look, maybe he can't play but i'm still excited to see/hear what he does in OTAs/training camp/preseason/regular season..

Really the question that needs answering is WTF does revive and rescue mean? And I don't mean that question directed solely at Schefter either. It should be directed toward everyone Bates, Toilet, and Mac?

Why are we switching, hiring/firing offensive staff? Why are we always throwing the people we just fired under the bus? As though somehow it's Chan's fault that Hack never took a snap in 2016?

The buck stops with Toilet. It was Toilets decision that Hack never saw action. It was Mac's fault for taking a guy so high in the draft that needed to be rescued, whatever the fuck that means?

So the question needs answering, wtf does revive and rescue mean. If they are reviving and rescuing the QB a year into his playing career, then please tell us what that says about our GM and HC? Or is he Joe Montana waiting in the wings?

Are they apologizing in advance for Hacks squandered first season? In other words, his play was horrid and now they must start over again? The questions just keep piling up.

I just know that if Hack does not show serious development in 2017, Mac and Toilet will likely lose their jobs.

 

[Mainejet]

His mechanics have issues, that can be fixed. His accuracy was off, as he throws high a lot, mechanics may fix that also. Hee has great size and instincts. I like hack as a project and for his potential. You're right, people are acting like he's uncoachable and that's just not the case.

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How do you know that he's not uncoachable? The point is, no one knows? Have any of those issues you mentioned improved at all? The point is, if he doesn't play at all and there's constant offensive staff upheaval, that would tend to make everyone think the worst?

 

[gastineau]

Rescue...OK after how many years? 3-4-5? First Drafting Hackenberg who played one year of good football & showed 3 years after of not learning & not advance his QB skills is worrisome. He has a strong arm but but can hit a WR unless WR runs to the ball. Hackenburgs constant pocket panic tells it all. He cant read Defenses & cant make plays if Offense breaks down & it results in Sacks,Fumbles,INTs. Can he be fixed? Sure, maybe, if a team got 3-4 years to teach him basics fundamentals to advanced NFL QB skills needed to be an AVG QB. Jets do not have the time to completely teach a QB things he should have learned in High School/College. Strong arm means zero if the best you can do is throw it 50yds up for grabs around a WR in a 5 - 7 yd radius.

 

[gastineau]

Far as [h=2]Adam Schefter...he is nothing but a Jock Sniffer![/h]

 

[Bigmoe]

Rescue...OK after how many years? 3-4-5? First Drafting Hackenberg who played one year of good football & showed 3 years after of not learning & not advance his QB skills is worrisome. He has a strong arm but but can hit a WR unless WR runs to the ball. Hackenburgs constant pocket panic tells it all. He cant read Defenses & cant make plays if Offense breaks down & it results in Sacks,Fumbles,INTs. Can he be fixed? Sure, maybe, if a team got 3-4 years to teach him basics fundamentals to advanced NFL QB skills needed to be an AVG QB. Jets do not have the time to completely teach a QB things he should have learned in High School/College. Strong arm means zero if the best you can do is throw it 50yds up for grabs around a WR in a 5 - 7 yd radius.

Agreed
maybe he just sucks
cant coach that

 

[Elias]

I am very curious to see how often do players that weren't any good in college turn into superstars at the next level. Most likely than not, I would assume, that those who were good in NCAA would be more likely to excel in the pros.

Reason I am saying this is because Hack does not have the best track record at Penn State. Has there been any success stories where someone can turn it around in the pros?

I am not ready to give up on Hack and believe he deserves a chance to play to see if he can turn it around but just wondering if the odds are against him. I think he's doomed here to be honest, teams like the Jets don't have the coaching staff in place to work with project. Hell, we've already gotten rid of his rookie year staff. Teams that have a good system in place probably have a better chance for a project to work out.

 

[NewMFS62]

Has there been any success stories where someone can turn it around in the pros?

Maybe, and maybe not.
But even if there are such stories, just because someone else has done it, that does not mean Hack will be able to, er, ,,, hack it.

Later

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Rescue...OK after how many years? 3-4-5? First Drafting Hackenberg who played one year of good football & showed 3 years after of not learning & not advance his QB skills is worrisome. He has a strong arm but but can hit a WR unless WR runs to the ball. Hackenburgs constant pocket panic tells it all. He cant read Defenses & cant make plays if Offense breaks down & it results in Sacks,Fumbles,INTs. Can he be fixed? Sure, maybe, if a team got 3-4 years to teach him basics fundamentals to advanced NFL QB skills needed to be an AVG QB. Jets do not have the time to completely teach a QB things he should have learned in High School/College. Strong arm means zero if the best you can do is throw it 50yds up for grabs around a WR in a 5 - 7 yd radius.

I disagree that the Jets don't have time. Thats all they have is time. They have not won anything in almost 50 years so whats another 50.

 

[Elias]

I disagree that the Jets don't have time. Thats all they have is time. They have not won anything in almost 50 years so whats another 50.

Another thing that you have to keep in mind is that the coaching staff and the front office do not give a crap about the past 50 years. They only care about the years they've been in charge. Given that it's a rebuilding year, we have some time.

 

[isired]

Agreed
maybe he just sucks
cant coach that

His year under O'Brien at Penn St. is at odds with that statement. Logically, either he doesn't suck, or you can, in fact, coach that. Unless you think the competition wasn't any good, I guess.

 

[Flyboys89]

He can be coached. But when have the jets ever shown the competency to coach up and develop a qb prospect like hack, who needs to be trimmed and groomed like a banzai tree? Never. So the jury is firmly out. The track record speaks for itself.

 

[isired]

I am very curious to see how often do players that weren't any good in college turn into superstars at the next level. Most likely than not, I would assume, that those who were good in NCAA would be more likely to excel in the pros.

Reason I am saying this is because Hack does not have the best track record at Penn State. Has there been any success stories where someone can turn it around in the pros?

I am not ready to give up on Hack and believe he deserves a chance to play to see if he can turn it around but just wondering if the odds are against him. I think he's doomed here to be honest, teams like the Jets don't have the coaching staff in place to work with project. Hell, we've already gotten rid of his rookie year staff. Teams that have a good system in place probably have a better chance for a project to work out.

They didn't draft him based on the historical odds of QBs with similar stats/lack of success in their last 3 years. They drafted him based on the success he had in his one year in a pro type system, and I would assume, based of Macc's relationship with his coach that year.

I don't know where Hack will end up ranked amongst mid-second round draft picks, but I know that it's not decided yet.

He can be coached. But when have the jets ever shown the competency to coach up and develop a qb prospect like hack, who needs to be trimmed and groomed like a banzai tree? Never. So the jury is firmly out. The track record speaks for itself.

Thing is, "the Jets" aren't developing him. The current Jets coaching staff is. And the QB coach hasn't been here before. So I'll say again, I don't know if Hack will make it, or where he'll end up ranked amongst round 2 QBs, but I do know that "the Jets" that tried to develop Geno, Sanchez, etc. etc. are long gone. Let's see what John Morton, Jeremy Bates, Mick Lombardi etc. can do.

 

[SackExchange]

He can be coached. But when have the jets ever shown the competency to coach up and develop a qb prospect like hack, who needs to be trimmed and groomed like a banzai tree? Never. So the jury is firmly out. The track record speaks for itself.

It seems you are painting the current offensive coaches, who just arrived, based on the failures of past regimes. I'm not sure that's fair.