Pete Carroll on players possibly refusing to take the field over social justice issues: “Anything’s possible”

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butterscotch

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Ok I am out of this so I won't answer as I said. I have said what I think so far.....God bless you all!
 

Old#15

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OK, i'm black.. what am i missing??

oh & there is zero chance owens doesn't have family members who arent mortified by his grifting stance..

  1. Prior to virus, lowest unemployment for blacks ever ( CNBC - The jobless rate for Hispanics hit a record low of 3.9% in September, while African Americans maintained its lowest rate ever, 5.5%);
  2. Permanent funding of predominantly black colleges and universities (Permanently reauthorizes and provides $255 million in annual mandatory funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities and other Minority Serving Institutions).
  3. Opportunity Zones (CNBC - A key White House program to reduce racial inequity has benefited big real estate projects more than minority-owned businesses, a study found.) So not as successful yet as planned, but long term would provide more jobs in the communities.
  4. Trump is fighting for school choice so that families don't have to be stuck in under-performing schools. This has been an uphill fight with teachers' unions, but from a civil rights standpoint would be a huge plus for all low income families.
  5. The number of unarmed Black shooting victims is down 63% from 2015, when Obama was president. There are about 7,300 Black homicide victims a year. The 14 unarmed victims (through June 22, 2020) in fatal police shootings would comprise only 0.2% of that total.
I'm sure there are more, but the first Black president, Obama did none of this.
 
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LIJETFAN

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Guys, I will respectfully ask again that we take the politics discussion elsewhere. This is not the place for it.
 

LIJETFAN

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I'll add I respect everyone on this Board for their football knowledge, passion and fandom of the Jets. I'd like to ensure that we all keep it that way. If this digresses into a political discussion - guaranteed it will get ugly. And that is not why any of us are here.
 

butterscotch

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I'll add I respect everyone on this Board for their football knowledge, passion and fandom of the Jets. I'd like to ensure that we all keep it that way. If this digresses into a political discussion - guaranteed it will get ugly. And that is not why any of us are here.
Why not move it to the off topic section instead of showing censorship? You & others did not complain on the Trump joke back a few months ago that is still up in that section by the way? I say he is not a racist a positive thing but a joke about the president is OK....... IMO both are OK as I was not asking for a vote for anyone on here.......but again I will stay out of this. I just came back on to speak for freedom not censorship.

Lets be fair with everyone. I think we beat this subject like a rented mule.......you see I did not say donkey lol. But if this is truncated ...You see I did not say elephant some may have not had their say. God bless you all.
 

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  1. Prior to virus, lowest unemployment for blacks ever ( CNBC - The jobless rate for Hispanics hit a record low of 3.9% in September, while African Americans maintained its lowest rate ever, 5.5%);
  2. Permanent funding of predominantly black colleges and universities (Permanently reauthorizes and provides $255 million in annual mandatory funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities and other Minority Serving Institutions).
  3. Opportunity Zones (CNBC - A key White House program to reduce racial inequity has benefited big real estate projects more than minority-owned businesses, a study found.) So not as successful yet as planned, but long term would provide more jobs in the communities.
  4. Trump is fighting for school choice so that families don't have to be stuck in under-performing schools. This has been an uphill fight with teachers' unions, but from a civil rights standpoint would be a huge plus for all low income families.
I'm sure there are more, but the first Black president, Obama did none of this.
there is more racial division in this country than at any point in my lifetime & it all happened under trump's watch, not obama's..

tell you something else about obama.. he didn't lock up (& then permanently separate) brown people & their. babies in concentration camps where the conditions & lack of medical care caused death & unimaginable mental trauma..

obama wasn't a perfect president but he wasn't a global embarrassment/ghoul either..

my apologies @LIJETFAN
 
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cheaterhater

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Protesting is not the ends, it is only one of the means to the end. That is to say - it is a way to voice your opinion to effectuate change. Unless you possess a substantial amount of wealth or hold political office or you are extremely well connected to those in political power, the options to initiate change are limited. Protests are one of those means. How effective they are is a different question.

Jet fans have protested over the years - and it has worked. Billboards, planes flying over practice, avoiding purchasing Jets products, selling season tickets or dropping them all together - all forms of protest, just on a smaller scale. Protests take many forms. These athletes are protesting in a way that their platform affords.
I dont eat kraft mac and cheese, I use Schick razors rather then gillete and I stopped going to the same spa that kraft goes to, to protest the cheatahs, but they still win every damn superbowl
 

cheaterhater

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I have had the advantage of working with police for about 20 years. The good the bad & the ugly. Our family had the privilege of knowing the president years ago. He is not a racist, & he cares about all people. We were improving in the areas of what they were/are protesting. Imo this is not about what they say they are protesting for. This is hurting the country.
I don't know him, but I don't believe him to be a racist either. And he absolutely wants to go down as the best president ever so he certainly wants to make the country better than it was to achieve this unlike other politicians who just want to advance their friends or there monetary supporters

I like that Trump has lit a fire under these aholes.

I have a buddy near the border who says all this stuff about illegals thats blamed on Trump has been going on for years

who knows whats true? not us, we're not rich enough to matter
 

cheaterhater

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I'm not going to comment on politics or share my political views. I think we should keep this board limited to sports, and the impact of these issues on the sports world as fans. The second we go down the rabbit hole of choosing political sides or of advocating for one candidate over another, this could get very ugly. And that's not why we come here. We come here to talk about the Jets. There are plenty of other forums to debate politics.

With that being said - I will say that I know this for sure - this country needs to heal, physically and psychologically. I don't care what side of the political spectrum you sit on, the hardened divisiveness needs to stop. If we don't find a way as a society to communicate better and solve our problems, things will get much, much worse.
agreed. I really dont folow politics. I am not a fan of polititians in general. I think anyone who's a politian should have to be a middle class person. rich people can not possibly feel the pain of the poor or the frustration of the middle class

I would like to a live in a world that did not need governments to run things or to mess things up as they really do. . unfortunately that world will never be a reality
 

cheaterhater

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  1. Prior to virus, lowest unemployment for blacks ever ( CNBC - The jobless rate for Hispanics hit a record low of 3.9% in September, while African Americans maintained its lowest rate ever, 5.5%);
  2. Permanent funding of predominantly black colleges and universities (Permanently reauthorizes and provides $255 million in annual mandatory funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities and other Minority Serving Institutions).
  3. Opportunity Zones (CNBC - A key White House program to reduce racial inequity has benefited big real estate projects more than minority-owned businesses, a study found.) So not as successful yet as planned, but long term would provide more jobs in the communities.
  4. Trump is fighting for school choice so that families don't have to be stuck in under-performing schools. This has been an uphill fight with teachers' unions, but from a civil rights standpoint would be a huge plus for all low income families.
  5. The number of unarmed Black shooting victims is down 63% from 2015, when Obama was president. There are about 7,300 Black homicide victims a year. The 14 unarmed victims (through June 22, 2020) in fatal police shootings would comprise only 0.2% of that total.
I'm sure there are more, but the first Black president, Obama did none of this.
as I said, I really dont follow politics, so I have no facts to back anything up but if I just went on what I hear on the little bit of the news that I can tolerate, I would have to say that Trump is the biggest ass there ever was. If your post is true, that would prove the news false. I hope the counyry is getting better as I hope the same for the Jets
 

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I don't know him, but I don't believe him to be a racist either. And he absolutely wants to go down as the best president ever so he certainly wants to make the country better than it was to achieve this unlike other politicians who just want to advance their friends or there monetary supporters

I like that Trump has lit a fire under these aholes.

I have a buddy near the border who says all this stuff about illegals thats blamed on Trump has been going on for years

who knows whats true? not us, we're not rich enough to matter
forget the last 4 years, you are aware he took out a full page add in a NYC paper calling for the executions of the then central park 5.. i say then because now they are know as the exonerated 5, because DNA evidence proved those then black & brown boys did not rape that woman..

to this day, he stands by his belief they are still guilty.....

i won't even get started on the housing discrimination lawsuits for not renting to black tenants in the 70's..
 

LIJETFAN

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Ok - you want to continue down this path, that's fine. I'll say this: If you are a Trump supporter you do not have my disdain. But you no longer have my respect. Instead you have my pity, which is what you most deserve. I can list a dozen reasons why I pity you, but I will not waste my time any further. Trump supporters love to stoke the flames to sow division. Well, you wanted division, and now you have it. I retire from this Board permanently. After over 20 years I believe, I'm done.

I wasn't trying to censor anyone, just trying to get off this topic. Well, you continued...Trump supporters love to agitate. Well, I'm not standing for it.

For those of you on this board that I respect and admire, I wish you the best of the luck. For those of you that I no longer respect, I hope you figure it out one day. Goodbye and good luck.

Please delete my account and remove as a moderator.
 

jetgreen13

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Ok - you want to continue down this path, that's fine. I'll say this: If you are a Trump supporter you do not have my disdain. But you no longer have my respect. Instead you have my pity, which is what you most deserve. I can list a dozen reasons why I pity you, but I will not waste my time any further. Trump supporters love to stoke the flames to sow division. Well, you wanted division, and now you have it. I retire from this Board permanently. After over 20 years I believe, I'm done.

I wasn't trying to censor anyone, just trying to get off this topic. Well, you continued...Trump supporters love to agitate. Well, I'm not standing for it.

For those of you on this board that I respect and admire, I wish you the best of the luck. For those of you that I no longer respect, I hope you figure it out one day. Goodbye and good luck.

Please delete my account and remove as a moderator.
jeez man, now i'm really sorry i didn't just leave this alone LI..

all the best to you going forward..
 
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