Seahawks GM: John Idzik didn't get fair shot with Jets

[Elias]

Like Cimini, I think he had a fair shot. Schneider think Idzik should have picked his own coach. That argument holds no weight Bc Idzik knew going into the job he's be stuck with Ryan.

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Believe it or not, there is a person walking this earth who believes former general manager John Idzik got a raw deal from the New York Jets. That person is John Schneider, the general manager of the Seattle Seahawks.

Yes, he's biased -- they worked together for three years in Seattle -- but listen to what he had to say.

Jets GM John Idzik cast his lot with Rex Ryan when he had a chance to go a different direction.

“I felt bad for him,” Schneider told reporters Tuesday at Super Bowl XLIX media day. “I think that, it’s just my personal opinion that you should be able to hire a head coach. If you’re going into a situation like that, try to make it work with the coach that’s there and then if it doesn’t, hire your own coach and see where it goes.”

Ordinarily, Schneider would have a strong case, but his argument doesn't hold up in this situation because Idzik did have an opportunity to hire his own coach -- and he picked the same one he was forced to keep from the outset.

Rex Ryan.

At the end of the 2013 season, Idzik essentially rehired Ryan by signing off on a contract extension. He did it in grand style, too, delivering that fiery, locker-room speech to the team after the last game, proclaiming, "This is our coach." At that moment, they became joined at the hip. That was Idzik's chance to break from Ryan and chart his own course, but Ryan made it difficult because the team overachieved at 8-8.

In the end, Idzik and Ryan took each other down.

Idzik did a lousy job in 2014, from free agency to the draft. He became his own worst enemy, contributing to his own demise with that embarrassing midseason news conference. His critics, who happened to be Ryan supporters (connect the dots, people), pounced on the opportunity, poisoning the environment. Next thing you know, planes were flying over practice. As for Ryan, he coached the season as if it were one long job interview, marketing himself for his next job. The coaching was suspect, but his self-promotion was brilliant. Obviously, the Buffalo Bills thought so.

Schneider said he has remained in touch with Idzik.

“It’s an entertainment industry, so you know going in that it’s tough, especially in New York City,” Schneider said. “We just talked about staying positive and what his next step is going to be. We’re just good friends.”

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Who cares!! He is gone. Thankfully!

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Idzik was ill-equipped to be a GM in this league and a clear sign of that is how he DID NOT clean house in the scouting department when he came in and begin to assemble his own scouting staff with 'His Guys', the way Maccagnan just did, and I'm absolutely certain Idzik had that authority but chose to stick with the status quo he inherited (Bradway & Co.)

I think Idzik simply doesn't have many close friends and associates in the scouting community, because he wasn't really a part of that fraternity like Maccagnan, he was more of a front office guy on the business end, not the scouting end, and those guys really are like a fraternity unto themselves, a smaller fraternity inside the larger fraternity that is the NFL.

Those guys are all on the road most of the year scouting and developing their reports, they attend many of the same college games and events, stay at the same hotels, go to dinner or for drinks together in their off hours, pick one another's brains, and develop real friendships along the way. If you've ever seen scouts on the road, they usually sit together at games and travel in packs. These guys get to know each other pretty well, so by the time one of them becomes a GM he already knows which of his peers he would most like to hire, without needing to conduct interviews.

Thats an experience someone like Idzik could never get from his ivory tower while counting money, its something you can only get when you are in the trenches for many many years with other scouts, when you are a real part of that fraternity, like Mike Maccagnan. That, IMO, is why Maccagnan came in ready to clean house in the scouting department and bring in his own guys, while Idzik was in no position to do likewise.

 

[Christa]

Yeah Idzik didn't get a fair chance when being able to select his own head coach, however he agreed to the general manager job and to keep Rex Ryan as a head coach. Idzik failed at getting cornerbacks when players like A.Cromartie and Brandon Flowers could of been cheap options at CB's and he failed to get a good WR in a draft that was considered a strong WR class.

He drafted three wide receiver, none whom made an impact for the New York Jets. Idzik had 12 picks and had flexibility to move up and down the draft to get some quality, but decided to stay put. The fact that he drafted 12 players and only about 50% are on the team says a lot. He did hit some home runs by drafting Sheldon Richardson and trading for Chris Ivory who have made a great impact on the Jets. I've always been one to stick for Idzik saying how he needed time to fully put his plan n action, however looking back i'm glad he's gone. Idzik wasn't aggressive during free agency and I feel a change was needed in the Jets organization.