Who stays, who goes?: Wide Receiver

[gmf1369]

We all know the clear cut starters are Eric Decker & Brandon Marshall, that is a given... Quincy Enunwa technically a receiver has found a new role on offense that has its own category in H-Back... These three look to have a dominate receiving season, so this leaves us with who else should make the final cut...

Rookies Jalin Marshall, Robby Anderson and 7th round selection Charone Peake aren't making the decision easier for the coaching staff and the front office to finalize who deserves to make the final cut... Jeremy Ross also in the mix has shown consistent play making ability not only as a receiver but as a return specialist... One problem our starting three are a lock but right so is Kenbrell Thompkins whose one year low tender offer is fully guaranteed ($1.67 M)... Not to mention second year man currently on the PUP list Devin Smith, this receiver position is loaded with good talent and potential...

Now Charone Peake, being a draft selection isn't guaranteed but so far he has warranted one of the two remaining active roster spots with his consistent play in camp and preseason game 1 & 2 kind of puts him etched in the one of the available spots for the active roster... So if Kenbrell Thompkins makes the roster by default (gtd contract), then the real question is how many receivers will the team keep heading into the season?

Lets say Quincy Enunwa is no longer listed as a Receiver but as a SE (H-Back) on the TE depth chart along with Kellen Davis & Jace Amaro... Then the Jets decide they will keep 6 receivers, the question is do all three rookies then make the roster or does Jeremy Ross bump one of them to waivers and hopefully to the practice squad?

 

[lounap23]

Thompkins is out... and depending how the 3 rookies play Smith might be a goner too. THose 3 guys have shown more in way less time than Smith.. But if one of the rookies does go it'll be Marshall.... Peake and Anderson have the size and speed..

Marshall
Decker
Enunwa
Peake
Anderson
Marshall
Ross if we keep 7 WR's

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Marshall
Decker
Enunwa
Peake
Anderson
Marshall
Ross if we keep 7 WR's

You nailed it, and Devin Smith starts the season on the 6 to 8 weeks IR, so thats a roster exemption.

 

[gmf1369]

Thompkins is out... and depending how the 3 rookies play Smith might be a goner too. THose 3 guys have shown more in way less time than Smith.. But if one of the rookies does go it'll be Marshall.... Peake and Anderson have the size and speed..

Marshall
Decker
Enunwa
Peake
Anderson
Marshall
Ross if we keep 7 WR's

You nailed it, and Devin Smith starts the season on the 6 to 8 weeks IR, so thats a roster exemption.

so the Jets are going to eat $1.67 M to cut Thompkins? I highly doubt that... but to keep 7 receivers Ross would be out to keep Thompkins and the three rookies... don't like it but it is the likeliest of solutions and try to put Ross on the practice squad if he clears waivers which is also unlikely...

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

so the Jets are going to eat $1.67 M to cut Thompkins? I highly doubt that... but to keep 7 receivers Ross would be out to keep Thompkins and the three rookies... don't like it but it is the likeliest of solutions and try to put Ross on the practice squad if he clears waivers which is also unlikely...

Hard to say it but i agree with you,

We see a guy like Robbie Anderson all the time here with the Jets. i.e: Ryan Spadola David Clowney-Stevie Anderson ('93). Guys who flash in the pre-season then just become an average 5th receiver at best.

Hopefully Robbie clears waivers as we can place him on the practice squad and call him up in case something happens to our receivers. Unless, the organization does indeed go with 3 QB's on the roster and Robbie can fill that slot. The way Geno is playing, that may be a viable option.

 

[Costigan77]

I think Ross makes this team purely based on the fact that Bowles/Gailey like veteran receivers. I can't see them keeping Anderson. He has the height and speed, but the Jets offense doesn't take many shots down the field, and he doesn't have the body type to make many plays over the middle. I think Peake and Marshall stay, and unfortunately Ross/Thompkins over Anderson.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

so the Jets are going to eat $1.67 M to cut Thompkins? I highly doubt that... but to keep 7 receivers Ross would be out to keep Thompkins and the three rookies... don't like it but it is the likeliest of solutions and try to put Ross on the practice squad if he clears waivers which is also unlikely...

Agreed if we keep seven, but I don't think we're keeping seven and Thompkins is the odd man out, unless you want to lose Anderson, Peake or Jalin?

 

[lounap23]

Hard to say it but i agree with you,

We see a guy like Robbie Anderson all the time here with the Jets. i.e: Ryan Spadola David Clowney-Stevie Anderson ('93). Guys who flash in the pre-season then just become an average 5th receiver at best.

Hopefully Robbie clears waivers as we can place him on the practice squad and call him up in case something happens to our receivers. Unless, the organization does indeed go with 3 QB's on the roster and Robbie can fill that slot. The way Geno is playing, that may be a viable option.

Spadola and Clowney are somewhat good comparisons but some guys just have the it factor and you know they have to get on the field..... And to be honest Spadola and Clowney were never given the opportunity in regualar season to get on the field and keep the training camp momentum and confidence going... They were buried on the depth chart or pushed to the PS.... I think this regime will give these kids the opportunity to play.... Gailey loves to throw the ball, loves to spread the offense out... You will see a lot of Peake and Anderson... Why? Size and speed.... Can you imagines those guys with their Size and speed on the outside and Marshall abd Decker working inside..... We saw how Decker dominated inside without much threat on the outside with the focus on Marshall.... The matchups will/should be a nightmare even with Marshall and Peake/Anderson on the outside and Enunwa and Decker on the inside..... And jesus if that doesn't open it up for Amaro as well nothing will.....

And look at Chan Gailey's history he likes WR with size..... So Ross and Marshall could be the guys being the odd men out... with us lucky if we can get J Marshall to the practice squad.

 

[Costigan77]

Spadola and Clowney are somewhat good comparisons but some guys just have the it factor and you know they have to get on the field..... And to be honest Spadola and Clowney were never given the opportunity in regualar season to get on the field and keep the training camp momentum and confidence going... They were buried on the depth chart or pushed to the PS.... I think this regime will give these kids the opportunity to play.... Gailey loves to throw the ball, loves to spread the offense out... You will see a lot of Peake and Anderson... Why? Size and speed.... Can you imagines those guys with their Size and speed on the outside and Marshall abd Decker working inside..... We saw how Decker dominated inside without much threat on the outside with the focus on Marshall.... The matchups will/should be a nightmare even with Marshall and Peake/Anderson on the outside and Enunwa and Decker on the inside..... And jesus if that doesn't open it up for Amaro as well nothing will.....

And look at Chan Gailey's history he likes WR with size..... So Ross and Marshall could be the guys being the odd men out... with us lucky if we can get J Marshall to the practice squad.

Little disagreement. Chan Gailey likes big/physical receivers. Jeremey Ross is 6 foot and much bigger than Anderson. Gailey's offense does not rely on a receiver that's basically just a deep threat. Jalin Marshall plays special teams as well as receiver. I don't think Anderson does. Unfortuneatly, I think Robby Anderson is the odd man out

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Its true that Anderson, Peake or Jalin could all be FOOLS GOLD, though odds are if you keep all three you will probably hit a HR on at least one, but its true that there are no guarantees despite what we have seen thus far with limited samples.

That said, IMO they have at least flashed enough to make you curious, and to make other teams curious too, which probably limits the possibility that you will sneak any of them thru waivers for the PS without being claimed. If you want to find out what you have with these players, IMO you have to keep them on the 53, and you should want to find out.

That said, Kenbrell Thompkins is not a good enough reason NOT to find out. Yeah, if you had four Quincy Enunwa's behind Brandon and Decker, then its adios amigos to these three youngsters, but IMO you don't cut bait with these kids, before you ever find out if what you see in training camp is real, over a Journeyman HTFG (Hold The Fort Guy) like Thompkins.

HTFG's, by definition, are guys who can make an NFL team until you can upgrade the talent level at their position.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Unfortuneatly, I think Robby Anderson is the odd man out

If you heard Mac rave about Anderson with Mike Francesa earlier this week, specifically citing him (not Peake or Jalin) as the youngster who has most impressed him in training camp and OTA's, you would know he is not the odd man out.

Mac was practically taking bows over this specific UDFA signing.

 

[lounap23]

Little disagreement. Chan Gailey likes big/physical receivers. Jeremey Ross is 6 foot and much bigger than Anderson. Gailey's offense does not rely on a receiver that's basically just a deep threat. Jalin Marshall plays special teams as well as receiver. I don't think Anderson does. Unfortuneatly, I think Robby Anderson is the odd man out

I see your point but I don't see Anderson being the odd guy out.... 6'3 and blazing speed... yes he is lighter than Ross who is 215 but Mac, Bowles and our WR Coach have all talked about how Anderson and Peake as being the most impressive rookies at camp.... You ain't getting those guys on the PS talking like that......J Marshall seems to be the guy they want to try and squeeze to the PS as he has been impressive by all reports but the FO and CS have markedly kept quiet on him relatively speaking.... And I wouldn't be surprised if they keep 8 WR's overall if you want to count Enunwa as a WR.... and keep 2 TE's instead of 3 and go with one less safety.... If the FO can get lucky to pass Middleton to the PS as well.. Higher chance of getting Middleton to the PS than one of the young Wr's

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

I agree with lounap, size wise Anderson and Peake are the prototype Chan Gailey prefers. If the Jets are going to try and sneak any of the three thru waivers for the PS, IMO it will be Jalin Marshall. I wouldn't try it with him either, I think you'll probably lose him, but if they are going to risk it with any of the three, I think he's the one they will risk it with.

I also think he is the least likely of the three to get claimed. That doesn't mean I don't believe he will be claimed, my money says that he will, but IMO he is the least likely of the three to get claimed. I have zero confidence the other two, with their size and speed, can get thru waivers. Jalin is a smaller WR who ran in the 4.6's and came out of college after his Sophomore season, before a lot of scouts believed he was ready.

 

[Mainejet]

If they keep 7. the 7th would be Thompkins so they would not have to eat 1.67 million......

 

[lounap23]

Based on how Mac/Gailey/Bowles have talked about the WR... you know a couple of things for sure...

They Love Anderson are very High on Peake and Marshall and haven't said boo about Thompkins....

Based on how the WR's have played in Preseaon and the playing time they got... Its Clear Anderson Peake, Marshall and Ross are guys that are being strongly considered to make the team. Thompkins looks like the odd man out.... yes he is guaranteed 1.67 mill but really that's nothing if he isn't exponentially better than Peake, Anderson, Marshall and Ross.... And he isn't heck he hasn't even played up to their level.