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There are some things I actually liked today. Some of the young receivers impressed me. The OL was pretty good in pass pro. Cat was good kicking. Liked the safety play, especially Adams. And it was close late, even if there was no point at which the Jets looked like they'd actually win the game.

I'm not looking at this from a wins and losses perspective. There were positives. And the team is closer to that top pick.

Well, if you're not looking at this from a win/loss perspective, please tell me what's left?

I mean not to be sarcastic or anything, but WTF is left? I mean are we supposed to believe this stupid sh*t coming from our owner and GM? Are we supposed to sit idly bye and accept this kindergarten crap?

There's ONLY winners and losers. There is NOTHING else. We can talk about the development of the rookies, but we are still a LAUGHINGSTOCK. This is just more depressing than I thought it could ever be...........
 
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Lee sucks!!

Well, I think he's miscast? Wouldn't you agree?

I mean if suddenly the Jets opted to deploy a 4-3 base defense and another coach, someone other than Kacy Rogers or Toilet, started coaching Lee, would you think that would work to the Jets advantage? I certainly do. I just see classic "Jonathan Vilma" written all over this? Lee MUST put on weight regardless of whatever style of defense he plays, but I can see him having success in a 4-3 working under the tutelage of a truly great 4-3 DC or HC?
 
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I also think Mac should have NEVER cut David Harris??? This defense very obviously needs and misses him...........
 

Elias

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I also think Mac should have NEVER cut David Harris??? This defense very obviously needs and misses him...........

Harris looked slow and done against the Pats. Purging the old men from our roster was a good move. Problem is they need to get rid of McCown and Forte too
 

NCgreen12

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As much as I know this team needs to lose to get better it's hard to watch and not root hard to win.
 

jets82

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As much as I know this team needs to lose to get better it's hard to watch and not root hard to win.

Stay focused my man, stay focused. You can do it, lol! Seriously, I understand where your coming from but here's why it's easy for me. First I'm tired of routing for a above average but can't win the big one because the QB is holding us back. I also tired of routing for a mediocre to horrible team. Still with no franchise QB. Second, I love this youth movement rebuild mode their doing but they're killing the whole idea of this by starting McCown. If Hack was playing, (even Petty to a certain extent) not only would I be watching every play of every game, I'd be routing like hell for them to win. Simply because they're screwing this whole thing up by playing McCown, not only am I routing for McCown to get injured so Hack can play but as long as McCown is playing, I want them to be beat by 40 every game.
 
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TebowCan'tThrow

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Seems douchey and immature not to mention the female sideline reporter dwarfed him.
 
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Seems douchey and immature not to mention the female sideline reporter dwarfed him.

I don't disagree with the douche, immaturity, but it's obvious to me this kid was snotted out of his gourd. It's not really a defense, just saying maybe he's not quite as much of a irresponsible idiot when he's sober?
 

SackExchange

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Well, if you're not looking at this from a win/loss perspective, please tell me what's left?

I mean not to be sarcastic or anything, but WTF is left? I mean are we supposed to believe this stupid sh*t coming from our owner and GM? Are we supposed to sit idly bye and accept this kindergarten crap?

There's ONLY winners and losers. There is NOTHING else. We can talk about the development of the rookies, but we are still a LAUGHINGSTOCK. This is just more depressing than I thought it could ever be...........

I guess we could play for wins and losses, load up with a bunch of aging veterans, all to make a run at 6-10 or 7-9 while the Pats steamroll to another division title. We'd have more wins that way, right? 2017 would be a better season if we did that.

Or we could play for the long term, finding out which younger players have talent and which don't, getting better draft picks along the way, and having young players get past their growing pains now. By doing that, the team might be awful instead of mediocre in 2017, but they would also be better set to success 2, 3, or 4 years down the road. I'm willing to sacrifice some minor short-term gratification for long-term success.

That's what's left.
 
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I guess we could play for wins and losses, load up with a bunch of aging veterans, all to make a run at 6-10 or 7-9 while the Pats steamroll to another division title. We'd have more wins that way, right? 2017 would be a better season if we did that.

Or we could play for the long term, finding out which younger players have talent and which don't, getting better draft picks along the way, and having young players get past their growing pains now. By doing that, the team might be awful instead of mediocre in 2017, but they would also be better set to success 2, 3, or 4 years down the road. I'm willing to sacrifice some minor short-term gratification for long-term success.

That's what's left.

And we absolutely had to do that by creating an all-time bad team for the ages???? This season by this team will be etched in ANY football fans memory for the rest of their lives?

I already know the rookies are good players? I already know they WILL get better at the season wears on? I already know there's at least 3 starters in this rookie class, possibly more.

But then the questions comes to me, "Is this team as bad, possibly WORSE, than the expansion Buccaneers in the 70's? My point is they did NOT have to create this shit hole that we're are watching right now? They could have remained semi-competitive, kept a few seasoned veterans to aid in this rebuild, and they could use their 2nd round pick that they got for Sheldon as ammunition to trade up from probably a top 10 pick anyhow and get a top QB?
 

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And we absolutely had to do that by creating an all-time bad team for the ages???? This season by this team will be etched in ANY football fans memory for the rest of their lives?

I already know the rookies are good players? I already know they WILL get better at the season wears on? I already know there's at least 3 starters in this rookie class, possibly more.

But then the questions comes to me, "Is this team as bad, possibly WORSE, than the expansion Buccaneers in the 70's? My point is they did NOT have to create this shit hole that we're are watching right now? They could have remained semi-competitive, kept a few seasoned veterans to aid in this rebuild, and they could use their 2nd round pick that they got for Sheldon as ammunition to trade up from probably a top 10 pick anyhow and get a top QB?

So you are advocating for them to bring in or keep older veterans so they could be a few wins better? You'd rather they be a little less bad and not have the top pick to get an elite QB? I'm glad they went with their plan.
 

jetgreen13

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So you are advocating for them to bring in or keep older veterans so they could be a few wins better? You'd rather they be a little less bad and not have the top pick to get an elite QB? I'm glad they went with their plan.
who's plan?? maccagnan's?? woody's?? woody's brother?? bowles is starting a 38 year old JAG QB & a 31 year old washed up RB in a full re build..
 

jets82

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who's plan?? maccagnan's?? woody's?? woody's brother?? bowles is starting a 38 year old JAG QB & a 31 year old washed up RB in a full re build..
Lol!! It's the stupidest shit I ever heard of and I don't think any team has ever done it. A team in a all out rebuild youth movement, starts two 30 something over the fucking hill wash out vets at the two most important skilled positions on offense. Very freaking smart!!! They might as well kept all the vets they cut and tried to truly win. That way, they get their 5-7 wins and draft another 300 pound dline men, CB or safety. Idiots!!!
 

jetgreen13

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Lol!! It's the stupidest shit I ever heard of and I don't think any team has ever done it. A team in a all out rebuild youth movement, starts two 30 something over the fucking hill wash out vets at the two most important skilled positions on offense. Very freaking smart!!! They might as well kept all the vets they cut and tried to truly win. That way, they get their 5-7 wins and draft another 300 pound dline men, CB or safety. Idiots!!!
forget the circus being back in town..

the jets have replaced that long running show with the theatre of the absurd..

*slow hand clapping*
 

Bigmoe

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I can't believe our opening game is two weeks away and I have 0 interest to see anything this team has to show when I sit in that seat
worse than when I went in the 70s
worse than when I went to the scab games
worse than kotite
how about the best thing I hope for is can this fucking coaching stafff
how pathetic is that
 

Elias

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I can't believe our opening game is two weeks away and I have 0 interest to see anything this team has to show when I sit in that seat
worse than when I went in the 70s
worse than when I went to the scab games
worse than kotite
how about the best thing I hope for is can this fucking coaching stafff
how pathetic is that

Ugh, I usually have a tailgate of 50+ of my friends each year for the home opener. This year there are only 17 of us going. You're not the only one who doesnt give a crap. Only thing that can excite us is if a young QB takes over and plays lights out but after watching them last season/pre-season, that's not going to happen.
 
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