Did Jets Err by not Waiting for Dan Quinn

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Weekly mailbag: Did Jets err by not waiting for Dan Quinn?

January, 17, 2015
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By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com





A lot has changed since our last mailbag. The New York Jets have a new regime, so let's talk about it.


GV23 @LittleVet23
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@RichCimini I know it is tough to say now, and Bowles seems logical, but u think jets will regret not waiting for Quinn? #jetsmail


11:35 AM - 16 Jan 2015


@RichCimini: The Jets have a history of picking the wrong guy, going back decades and decades. In this case, I think they made the right call by picking Todd Bowles over Dan Quinn ... under the circumstances. They were comparable candidates in terms of experience and qualifications, but one was available and the other wasn't. If you feel comfortable with the guy available, you grab him. If the Jets let Bowles out of the building, they might have lost him to the Atlanta Falcons. The Jets were concerned about staff-building; it was one of the top items on their list of priorities. Quinn was targeting Kyle Shanahan and Mike Smith as his coordinators, and there's no guarantee they'd still be available when Quinn was eligible to be hired. Bowles' two coordinators, Chan Gailey and Kacy Rodgers, were in the bag. We'll see how it works out. If Quinn turns into the next Bill Belichick, I'm sure there will be a lot of second-guessing.

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@RichCimini #jetsmail what options do the jets have at corner this offseason? Draft, free agents, trades ?


11:31 AM - 16 Jan 2015


@RichCimini: This is the No. 1 positional need. Like Rex Ryan, Bowles needs man-to-man corners to play his system. Right now, the only corners under contract for 2015 are Dee Milliner (injured), Marcus Williams, Darrin Walls and Dexter McDougle (injured). Do you want to go into the season with that? No, I didn't think so. I expect them to add a veteran via free agency, and the names to watch are Antonio Cromartie and Kareem Jackson. Cromartie played under Bowles in Arizona and, based on the number of pro-Bowles interviews he's done in recent days, it sounds like he's lobbying for a return to New York. Jackson makes sense because new general manager Mike Maccagnan was part of the Houston Texans front office that picked him in the first round of the 2010 draft.


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@RichCimini How do you think Todd Bowles will use Quinton Coples? DE or OLB? #jetsmail


11:29 AM - 16 Jan 2015

@RichCimini: Bowles played a 3-4 base defense in Arizona, with outside linebackers in the height/weight category of Quinton Coples -- about 6-foot-5, 275 pounds, give or take. But there were a handful of games, including the playoff loss to the Carolina Panthers, in which he played four down linemen in an attempt to beef up against the run. If Bowles takes the same plan to the Jets, he'd probably see Coples as an ideal fit because of his versatility. Frankly, I don't think he loves playing outside linebacker -- it's not his natural position -- but he might have no choice unless he gets traded.


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@RichCimini with gaileys spread offense, does that increase the chances jets pick mariota if available at 6? #jetsmail


11:53 AM - 16 Jan 2015

@RichCimini: You're right, Swami, Chan Gailey ran the spread in his last coaching gig -- the Buffalo Bills, 2012. I don't think that automatically means it will become his base offense with the Jets, but you have to figure it will be part of the package at the very least. As for Marcus Mariota, I don't think he'll last to the Jets' pick. But if he's available, his value has to increase because of his background in the spread; it would make for an easier transition. I wouldn't base my decision on that, though. By and large, the most successful quarterbacks are pocket passers who can play in a pro-style offense.

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Any guess where Idzik will work next year? #jetsmail


11:44 AM - 16 Jan 2015


@RichCimini: What makes you so confident he'll find work?
 

jetgreen13

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not by my estimation..

if quinn & the jets had a handshake deal quinn would be our de facto HC this very moment..

waiting on quinn with only the hopes of signing him could have been disastrous..

hiring bowles essentially became a no brainer..
 

Elias

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I agree with JetGreen -- jets made the right move. Reading about Bowles actually makes me believe he is the better choice. I always wanted to get back to that aggressive d from 09-10 and I think we will now.
 
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Yeah if the Jets had waited for Quinn and he signed with another team, then the Jets get stuck with some one like Marrone. Disaster
 

Green Jets & Ham

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I know the rules state you can't sign Quinn until his team is eliminated, but lets be real, both sides can communicate their level of interest in the other and there are ways of assuring the Jets they would NOT be waiting in vain if they waited for Quinn. There are ways to assure them that they would NOT get caught holding the bag. IMO Quinn offered no such assurances, therefore the Jets were smart to move on to Bowles. Initially I was disappointed because I had my heart set on Quinn and had not really taken the time to research Bowles, but following my research I'm satisfied the Jets hired a rock solid candidate and a potential home-run. Remains to be seen how it works out, but I like what I've heard about Bowles and I'm optimistic.
 

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not by my estimation..

if quinn & the jets had a handshake deal quinn would be our de facto HC this very moment..

waiting on quinn with only the hopes of signing him could have been disastrous..

hiring bowles essentially became a no brainer..
Exactly right, J13, if Quinn really wanted this job then he should punch his agent in the face and then fire him, in that order, because its obvious too me that it was never communicated to the Jets that Quinn was a sure thing. That said, this might work to our advantage because there's a lot to like about Bowles. He may wind up being the better HC. I can't say for sure, but its definitely possible. The more I learn about Bowles, the more I like him.
 
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if they are that close you don't wait only way i would wait if it was a difference of landing a kotite vs a shula type. Quinn and bowles were to close to wait. Bowles would have left atlanta with a contract.
 

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I agree UC and its a good point. We're not talking about a wide disparity here, if any disparity at all. We're talking about two assistants who by most accounts were equally attractive, therefore there's no reason for the Jets to wait for Quinn unless they received an iron-clad guarantee, which they obviously didn't, because waiting for Quinn almost definitely would have cost us Bowles.
 
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Dear Rich Cimini

Get lost

Jets got the right guy

First of all, if they waited and then Clown-o went to the Bills, we would be sitting around for 3 weeks with no HC and no assistants

Second, it is great to be watching the Shrine game and not worrying about the crawl on NFLN telling me where Quinn and any of the other guys are interviewing

Third, because Bowles actually IS the best of the class
 

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Dear Rich Cimini

Get lost

Jets got the right guy

First of all, if they waited and then Clown-o went to the Bills, we would be sitting around for 3 weeks with no HC and no assistants

Second, it is great to be watching the Shrine game and not worrying about the crawl on NFLN telling me where Quinn and any of the other guys are interviewing

Third, because Bowles actually IS the best of the class

IDK something just seems amiss. Quinn was supposed to be the top candidate for all teams. So,as it turns out , only 2 of the 7 teams looking for a head coach are left?
Atlanta and Denver which joined the party late with that whole fiasco . Seems like " the NFL entity " is placing coaches in specific areas. Yea I know it sounds like I'm a conspiracy nut , but this entire scenario just doesn't sit rite .:waving-white-flag:
 

Elias

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IDK something just seems amiss. Quinn was supposed to be the top candidate for all teams. So,as it turns out , only 2 of the 7 teams looking for a head coach are left?
Atlanta and Denver which joined the party late with that whole fiasco . Seems like " the NFL entity " is placing coaches in specific areas. Yea I know it sounds like I'm a conspiracy nut , but this entire scenario just doesn't sit rite .:waving-white-flag:

What would they gain by placing Quinn at a top job? You think to keep Peyton relevant?

Too much of a stretch imho. And I'm all about conspiracies!

Speaking of conspiracies, the Steelers At Jets spread from earlier this year should be looked at.
 

Bigmoe

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Speaking of conspiracies, the Steelers At Jets spread from earlier this year should be looked at.

Vegas and the NFL know everything. I know I'm nuts.
Master public manipulation
 

Elias

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Vegas and the NFL know everything. I know I'm nuts.
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Yea that was ridiculous, steelers were hot and jets sucked big time going into that game. Vegas was begging for people to pick the Steelers knowing Jets were going to win.
 

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Definitely agree with the above comments. Bowles is a good choice. Waiting for Quinn and getting spurned, Bowles would be gone and our options would be less desirable.
 

Bronx

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I wanted Bowles over Quinn all along. If they listened to Cimini when making these decisions, we'd be back to the Kotite years
 
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IMO Bowles was the better choice. Bowles coaches his own defense, Quinn coaches Carroll's. I liked Bowles better all along.
 
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