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I'd say , both. They have been just mediocre for a very long time. not good enough to win the superbowl and not bad enough to get a franchise qb. but what kills me the most is that after seeing brady stand in the pocket for 10 seconds at a pop for the last 18 years no one has figured out that we need an offensive line

But this year, they totally rebuilt. They stripped down almost the entire roster. Experts were commenting on how the roster was among the worst in league history.

And yet they have been competitive in all but two games, and have a record that has surpassed expectations. If they were 5-8 with a bunch of veterans, it would be one thing. But they are 5-8 with a bunch of kids.
 

jetgreen13

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But this year, they totally rebuilt.
except at QB, of course..

still having no idea if a 3rd & a 4th round WRs can play is also a nice touch as well..

again, enjoy bowles' extension & mccown being the de facto starter a nano second after he resigns..
 

cheaterhater

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But this year, they totally rebuilt. They stripped down almost the entire roster. Experts were commenting on how the roster was among the worst in league history.

And yet they have been competitive in all but two games, and have a record that has surpassed expectations. If they were 5-8 with a bunch of veterans, it would be one thing. But they are 5-8 with a bunch of kids.

Right, but the point is, no matter what the Jets do, they have roughly the same record and it's almost always mediocre. I think a lot of guys, myself included,. hoped that we would just stink bad enough this season to get the chance to draft a top qb. Instead we have about the same record as always and are going to be drafting in about the same spot as usual.

Every season when someone asks me what I think the Jets record will be this year, I tell them somewhere between 6-10 and 10-6 . Mediocre.

Since 1978 when the NFL switched to 16 games, the Jets have won more then 10 games 3 times and won less then 6 games 9 times. Two of the 9 were the Kotite years which was expected.

in 40 years since 1978 we have only won more then 9 games 9 times. We have been the picture of mediocrity.

You might argue that a lot of other teams fall into this same category and it may be true, but don't we want to be like the teams who are not mediocre?

How about this, Since 2001, belichick second season the Cheatahs have won less then 11 games just 3 times and less then 12 games only 5 times. and for you, "they can't win without brady fans" They went 11-5 with Matt Cassel at the helm. ....and if you remember, they missed the playoffs that season because the Jets beat the Dolphins on the last day of the season. Had the Jets lost to the Dolphins that day, I'm willing to bet that Matt Cassel gets a superbowl ring that year and most likely a SBMVP. wonder where brady would be now had that happened? Maybe he would have become a Jet and we would have finally been able to see him get sacked hard and often. What a difference 1 game can make
 

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except at QB, of course..

still having no idea if a 3rd & a 4th round WRs can play is also a nice touch as well..

again, enjoy bowles' extension & mccown being the de facto starter a nano second after he resigns..

I think the QB situation tells us more about Petty and Hack than it does about Bowles. But we've been through that over and over.
 

Gramoah

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Never fear. There's another QB in the stable now. They just signed Joel Stave from the Redskins, his 4th team, to the practice squad in case they need one.
 

jetgreen13

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I think the QB situation tells us more about Petty and Hack than it does about Bowles. But we've been through that over and over.
LOLz yep, that's fair to say..

we haven't discussed why the 3rd & 4th round WRs can't get on the field..

& if neither one of them can play, then maccagnan is missing on skill position players (in the 1st 4 rounds) at an alarming rate..
 

forevergreen

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But this year, they totally rebuilt. They stripped down almost the entire roster. Experts were commenting on how the roster was among the worst in league history.

And yet they have been competitive in all but two games, and have a record that has surpassed expectations. If they were 5-8 with a bunch of veterans, it would be one thing. But they are 5-8 with a bunch of kids.

I want you to think about something....this franchise is soooo screwed up it has managed to figure out a way to pacify its fan base and get you to enjoy being mediocre. You are actually celebrating 5-8 record. Seriously, think about it. Its insanity. Its called the Emperor Wears New Clothes. Its the play that everyone that sees it knows its horrible but everyone comes out and says its wonderful because they are embarrassed and everyone else says its wonderful.
 

forevergreen

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I'd say , both. They have been just mediocre for a very long time. not good enough to win the superbowl and not bad enough to get a franchise qb. but what kills me the most is that after seeing brady stand in the pocket for 10 seconds at a pop for the last 18 years no one has figured out that we need an offensive line

Ah yes who needs offensive line when you can load more top picks into a defense that cant get team double digit sacks in over 2 years with a defensive minded HC
 

forevergreen

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I think the QB situation tells us more about Petty and Hack than it does about Bowles. But we've been through that over and over.

What does the QB situation tell you about Mac/Bowles when the Jets state hack will never see the field this year now that Petty is the starter????

So basically our 2nd round QB is sooooo bad in year 2 he cant see the field for any of our meaningless games because our 4th round pick QB who is also bad and cant beat a washed up forever backup mccown is now our starter only because of injury.......Are you serious man? These guys are secretly reading football for dummies books and you want them to pick and train our 2018 team???? I would say time out, but our coaching staff doesnt use them or have you seen the broncos game?
 

forevergreen

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LOLz yep, that's fair to say..

we haven't discussed why the 3rd & 4th round WRs can't get on the field..

& if neither one of them can play, then maccagnan is missing on skill position players (in the 1st 4 rounds) at an alarming rate..

As well as Bowles not able to develop them. Seems like a lot of players cant see the field either for lack of talent or development!
 

magicjohnson

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I want you to think about something....this franchise is soooo screwed up it has managed to figure out a way to pacify its fan base and get you to enjoy being mediocre. You are actually celebrating 5-8 record. Seriously, think about it. Its insanity. Its called the Emperor Wears New Clothes. Its the play that everyone that sees it knows its horrible but everyone comes out and says its wonderful because they are embarrassed and everyone else says its wonderful.

Totally agree forevergreen,

It's called being Brainwashed into accepting a new normal, which I guess for some is 5 wins.
 

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LOLz yep, that's fair to say..

we haven't discussed why the 3rd & 4th round WRs can't get on the field..

& if neither one of them can play, then maccagnan is missing on skill position players (in the 1st 4 rounds) at an alarming rate..

Depends. If he isn't hitting on 3rd and 4th round WRs but hit on a UDFA like Anderson, that balances out.
 

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I want you to think about something....this franchise is soooo screwed up it has managed to figure out a way to pacify its fan base and get you to enjoy being mediocre. You are actually celebrating 5-8 record. Seriously, think about it. Its insanity. Its called the Emperor Wears New Clothes. Its the play that everyone that sees it knows its horrible but everyone comes out and says its wonderful because they are embarrassed and everyone else says its wonderful.

Again, the team finally did a full rebuild. Not a reload, not bringing in a bunch of veterans to make a run at a wild card. They rebuilt.

So yes, I'll take 5-8 with a roster that is one of the youngest, if not the youngest, in the league at most positions. I would not be happy with 5-8 on a team loaded with veterans.
 

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Seriously? Aside from QB, you can say that this year?
WR & RB..

essentially every skill position (aside from QB of course) on the side of the he doesn't coach but dictates to..

& "aside" from QB?? & you're the one questioning who's being serious & who is not??
 

forevergreen

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...on-says-jets-waved-white-flag-offense-broncos

This says it all....not only did we wave the white flag in the first half according to Bowles - why he didnt use our time outs because his favorite QB (McCown) was hurt and he rather stick with him then bench him and put in an uninjured guy (petty made 2 completions before McCown came back in), but our Offensive Coordinator waved the white flag with 11 MINUTES TO PLAY IN THE FOURTH!!!! Because he thought 23-0 was insurmountable with 11 MINUTES LEFT against a TERRIBLE BRONCOS TEAM!!!!

HOW DO YOU SAY YOU ARE PLAYING TO WIN GAMES, YET YOU WAVE THE WHITE FLAG WITH 11 MINUTES LEFT IN A 3 SCORE GAME - ESPECIALLY A GET INTO THE PLAYOFFS MUST WIN GAME!!!! This is the problem with the dysfunction. For all of you that defend Bowles......this is it - complete hypocrisy or incompetence. You pick - either way this is not how a professional organization is run. Its one thing if you are developing players and Petty and Hack are starting all season and we are not counting wins.....BUT when you tell us fans that you are playing guys that GIVE US THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN - YOU NEVER THROW GAMES EVER!!!!!!!! THIS COACHING STAFF JUST DECIDED TO TANK IN THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME ALL SEASON AFTER STATING THEY WERE PLAYING TO WIN!!!! TIME TO FIRE THE LOT!!!!!!!
 

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WR & RB..

essentially every skill position (aside from QB of course) on the side of the he doesn't coach but dictates to..

& "aside" from QB?? & you're the one questioning who's being serious & who is not??

Enunwa, when healthy? Anderson? McGuire at RB?

I'm not sure I follow the argument. I would not say that Bowles has buried young players across the roster.
 
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forevergreen

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Enunwa, when healthy? Anderson? McGuire at RB?

I'm not sure I follow the argument. I would not say that Bowles has buried young players across the roster.

You do know Enunwa is not playing this season right? He has been on IR all season and last season its not like Bowles swapped him in for Marshall when he was doing poorly. Bowles stuck to his sorry stubborn guns the entire way. McGuire is lucky to see the field and only reason he is - Forte has been injured. Otherwise Bowles would of kept him out. You need to read the local news a bit more. All of this is at NY Post and NJ.COM all season. If you just read ESPN or NFL you wont get the full picture man.
 

forevergreen

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-jets-healthy-scratch-new-orleans-saints-game

Another reason to Fire Bowles. So how many 1st round picks loaded into the defense, how many other top tier picks.....how many 1st round picks with talent he cant coach.....His defenses have been horrible the last three years. To add to it he cant control the top talent on the team - last year Marshall and sheldon, this year wilk (continuation from last year)

Trade Away Calvin - doesnt fit his system
Trade Away Sheldon - Bowles can control him
Now we Scrap Wilk.....

I never in my life saw a team throw away 3 1st round picks - 2 of which were pro-bowl caliber when they were coached properly. FIRE BOWLES
 
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