Jets Extend Contracts of GM Mike Maccagnan and Head Coach Todd Bowles

[SackExchange]

link?? by your observation, who in this fan base is clamoring for shooting for another short term window of 9-10 wins??

ironically, i can't think of one poster here who was more impressed with the jets '15 spending spree, 10 win non playoff season then you were/still are..

I wasn't impressed with the spending spree. At the same time, I wasn't bashing "Toilet" at every turn for only winning 10 games like so many fans were.

The problem is, so many fans are absolutists. They either love everything or hate everything someone does. So by that regard, they give no credit and always give fault, or vice versa. I'm fine with saying I think Bowles did a good job that season, a horrible job in his second season, and a pretty solid job in building a young foundation this year. And no, I don't think he gets outcoached 16 games a year.

 

[Bigmoe]

link?? by your observation, who in this fan base is clamoring for shooting for another short term window of 9-10 wins??

ironically, i can't think of one poster here who was more impressed with the jets '15 spending spree, 10 win non playoff season then you were/still are..

Yea I agree
And my observation that 10 win / nonplayoff / non rebuild waste of time with this staff , losing to our fired coach Twice, with the playoffs on the line

sucked

some posters think thier way is the is the correct and only way and other opinions are just crazy impatient Jet fans that want to win now short term ,hahahahhaha

yea i want Cousins , if it happens great ,if not oh well

by by the way , don't think it's happening anyway

here comes 7 wins but we had a rookie QB so resign the staff to another extension year

jeez

 

[Gramoah]

I'm good with the extensions. The team is still in rebuild mode and might be for longer than many would like. Changing staff in the middle of the rebuild would not get us to a super bowl any faster. Sometimes you have to be patient when you see that a plan is working and it IS working. I know some of our fans don't like Bowles and some don't like Mac but so far based on what they are trying to do I feel they are doing well. It wouldn't hurt to consider that Bowles is a learning HC. It's his first gig as a HC and it's unfair to say he better get us in the playoffs by his third season or we need to dump him. He may or may not be the best HC we can have but he and the team respect each other and I've not heard any players speak negatively about him. I see them play hard for him every game. Anyone who thinks we should have made the playoffs this year is part of that win now faction that got us in the predicament we are in now.

 

[jetgreen13]

I wasn't impressed with the spending spree. At the same time, I wasn't bashing "Toilet" at every turn for only winning 10 games like so many fans were.

The problem is, so many fans are absolutists. They either love everything or hate everything someone does. So by that regard, they give no credit and always give fault, or vice versa. I'm fine with saying I think Bowles did a good job that season, a horrible job in his second season, and a pretty solid job in building a young foundation this year. And no, I don't think he gets outcoached 16 games a year.

so essentially, you're not willing to take a stance, (at least here) but more than willing to chastise the "jet" fan base for voicing their displeasure after decades of creative ways to remain just competitive enough to never land a franchise QB??

look, maybe you & a handful of others here have found the fountain of youth.. so i guess however long it takes for the jets to win another super bowl is inconsequential to you guys..

& as far as bowles in game coaching.. i don't think he gets out coached 16 games a year either.. it's more in the 14 to 15 game a season range..

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

Stability. We need this. The Johnson brothers view that this process needs to be for the long haul. The 2017 season as every one knew was a youth movement that needed a veteran QB to PROPERLY evaluate this offense. We have the pieces that can excel with the proper QB. The stop gap session is over. Josh McCown will indeed be back as a back up though primarily the top priority this off season is to acquire a signal caller that can take this young offense into another level where we win those close games that we should have this season.


Since Mac and Bowles are coming back, they're by no chance giving up on Christian Hackenberg. This is an absolute make or break off season for him. He needs to blkow this out of the water come OTA's. 2nd year under Morton. I also believe Bryce is done with the organization opening the door in drafting a high draft pick. Possibly remaking a Philip Rivers/ Drew Brees scenario in San Diego.

One this is for sure, The expectations will be high for Coach Bowles and Mac in 2018.

 

[jetgreen13]

Yea I agree
And my observation that 10 win / nonplayoff / non rebuild waste of time with this staff , losing to our fired coach Twice, with the playoffs on the line

sucked

some posters think thier way is the is the correct and only way and other opinions are just crazy impatient Jet fans that want to win now short term ,hahahahhaha

yea i want Cousins , if it happens great ,if not oh well

by by the way , don't think it's happening anyway

here comes 7 wins but we had a rookie QB so resign the staff to another extension year

jeez

well don't forget, our newly extended HC is on record saying (more than once) that no regular season game is more important than another.. LOLz that not just painfully naive for anyone to say, much less an NFL HC, it's absolutely mathematically false..

what a ****ing dope..

 

[magicjohnson]

I wasn't impressed with the spending spree. At the same time, I wasn't bashing "Toilet" at every turn for only winning 10 games like so many fans were.

The problem is, so many fans are absolutists. They either love everything or hate everything someone does. So by that regard, they give no credit and always give fault, or vice versa. I'm fine with saying I think Bowles did a good job that season, a horrible job in his second season, and a pretty solid job in building a young foundation this year. And no, I don't think he gets outcoached 16 games a year.

I guess I'm that rare fan who is on the fence. I do like some things Bowles has done for this team but I question some of his other decisions. Unlike last season, Todd has gotten his guys to play hard this season. His game plans are way too predicable and he needs to be more aggressive in his on field decisions.

Bowles need to finally give this team an identity for next season...something...anything...who are we? This rebuild need to show huge progress next year...playoffs of at least playing meaningful games in December.

I understand the extension because Stability is important for the younger players on this team, but for fans the clock is ticking on the Bowles and Mac show.

 

[Elias]

Depends on the situation. If the team is developing a young QB and shows progress, the way the team showed progress with young players at several other positions, I'm fine with it.

If for some reason they go on a huge spending spree, deviating from their true slow build plan, and sign Cousins and spend like drunken sailors on free agents, then no, it comes down to wins and losses.

For me, I'd rather the team took the first path, as I'd rather not mortgage true sustained success for a couple years of having a shot at 9 or 10 wins, all to appease the fan base.

Spending like sailors is what Mac is going to do. Since his time here he has shown that he has no plan. I do not agree with this move bc the same holes exist on this team as it did on day one of his hire. Bowles has the players playing hard for him which is a good sign but he’s not a good in game manager. Some of his decisions are ridiculous.

This move was expected. Let’s hope Mac can build on the core he put together. He hits on one to two draft picks per year. If we will rebuild from the draft, he needs to be better at picking.

Go Jets!

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Wow, don’t know what to say here. Just doesn’t seem to be the right move. Hopefully it works out soon enough. I have absolutely no faith in this organization and any decisions they make. Hence the draft and this QB thing. Guess we’ll see!

I have no faith in them and even the people that like this move don't either. This organization is one tiny step above the Browns.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

At the end of the day they have one year basically because if they tank they will be fired so....

 

[NewMFS62]

what's the good of continuity with a HC who still gets consistently out coached head to head going into week 17 of year three?? THIS

what's the good of continuity with a GM who will be going into year four with perhaps the shakiest QB situation in the league under his watch?? the same GM is also going into year four looking to draft his first legit OLmen, CB, WR, RB & edge rusher.. THIS

OK, so Bowles has improved the clubhouse. But once the game starts, he makes terrible play selection and clock management decisions. And I'm still waiting to see one in game adjustment or deviation from a pre-game plan. Let him coach the clubhouse, but please let someone else coach the games.
And while Mac has made several good player decisions, a good, or even potentially very good player here and there doesn't win championships. Name one UNIT or position (other than possibly safety) that he has built in his tenure here.
Until both men show they can address their deficiencies, I won't be a happy camper.

Later

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

what's the good of continuity with a HC who still gets consistently out coached head to head going into week 17 of year three?? THIS

what's the good of continuity with a GM who will be going into year four with perhaps the shakiest QB situation in the league under his watch?? the same GM is also going into year four looking to draft his first legit OLmen, CB, WR, RB & edge rusher.. THIS

OK, so Bowles has improved the clubhouse. But once the game starts, he makes terrible play selection and clock management decisions. And I'm still waiting to see one in game adjustment or deviation from a pre-game plan. Let him coach the clubhouse, but please let someone else coach the games.
And while Mac has made several good player decisions, a good, or even potentially very good player here and there doesn't win championships. Name one UNIT or position (other than possibly safety) that he has built in his tenure here.
Until both men show they can address their deficiencies, I won't be a happy camper.

Later

Great post!!

 

[Jetsfanatic]

Good move! Bowles, for the most part, did a nice job this year. Mac has broguth in some young talent and will have a high draft pick and loads of cap money to continue to build the team. This also brings some much needed stability. Lets not turn into the Cleveland Browns.

 

[jets82]

Would firing them have been the right decision? Or is it a blanket statement that any move they made would be wrong, regardless of what they did?

Honestly I don’t know how to answer this question. I will just say I have no faith in any decision they make so I guess this is more of a blanket statement. I don’t know what they should have done honestly speaking because everything they seem to do is wrong.

 

[jetgreen13]

Good move! Bowles, for the most part, did a nice job this year. Mac has broguth in some young talent and will have a high draft pick and loads of cap money to continue to build the team. This also brings some much needed stability. Lets not turn into the Cleveland Browns.

what good is stability when it's attached at the hip to incompetence?? keeping people who don't know WTF they are doing is not the achievement you're trying to make it out to be..

neither is applauding trying not to be the worst franchise in the league..

 

[Jetsfanatic]

what good is stability when it's attached at the hip to incompetence?? keeping people who don't know WTF they are doing is not the achievement you're trying to make it out to be..

neither is applauding trying not to be the worst franchise in the league..

I'm willing to see what Bowles can do when given a real answer at QB. Look no further than the 49ers. Kyle Shanahan didn't suddenly get smarter when Garoppolo became his starting QB.

 

[Elias]

I'm willing to see what Bowles can do when given a real answer at QB. Look no further than the 49ers. Kyle Shanahan didn't suddenly get smarter when Garoppolo became his starting QB.

mccown played really well this year. I don’t think a different qb (other than Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Newton) would have won more games for us this season.

 

[Jetsfanatic]

mccown played really well this year. I don’t think a different qb (other than Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Newton) would have won more games for us this season.

I agree he played well. As a matter of fact had he not gotten injured we may have actually beaten the Saints and Chargers. That said, he still had his melt down moments. The interception late in the first half against the Pats was a killer; the interception late in the game against the Dolphins; the lateral against the Jags (we held on to win in OT). The fumble when trying to throw the ball away against Carolina, instead of just taking the sack.

 

[jetgreen13]

I'm willing to see what Bowles can do when given a real answer at QB. Look no further than the 49ers. Kyle Shanahan didn't suddenly get smarter when Garoppolo became his starting QB.

isn't that mccown in your avatar??

haven't you often posted how well you believed mccown played this season??

 

[SackExchange]

mccown played really well this year. I don’t think a different qb (other than Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Newton) would have won more games for us this season.

I don't think that's because the roster is terrible. I think that's because the roster is young.