If I'm the Browns I'm taking Barkley #1 Overall

[Green Jets & Ham]

Last night, doing my first mock draft, I realized it makes more sense for the Browns to take Barkley #1 than to take a QB

Last night I didn't have the guts to do it. I went with the chalk pick, Rosen, but today I made the switch and here's why ...

IMO the difference between Rosen, Darnold, Allen and Mayfield is minimal, and because they own the #4 Pick, they can take Barkley #1, compliment their young QB with a great young RB, which takes so much pressure off their young QB to do it all by himself early on, and STILL get the second best QB in the draft on their board, because the Giants likely take Rosen at 2, the Colts will not take a QB at #3, they'll take an OT or edge rusher, then the Browns will have their choice between Darnold, Allen and Mayfield at #4, probably taking Darnold.

However, if they take Rosen #1, the Colts will most likely snatch Barkley at #3, so the Browns won't be able to get the FQB and FRB if they try this in the reverse.

That said, if its my call, unless I think Rosen is a super blue-chip, can't miss QB, so much better than the rest, AND I DON'T, I'm taking Barkley #1 and the QB at #4

 

[flgreen]

Actually when I read the thread tittle, I thought no way.

After reading your post it made a lot of sense
Good job

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

Actually when I read the thread tittle, I thought no way.

After reading your post it made a lot of sense
Good job

I know what you mean, its counterintuitive because you always take the QB over the RB, unless you already have a FQB, and the Browns don't, but in this case the Browns are in a unique position to get BOTH if they do this in the reverse, cause if they don't, its very like the Colts will take Barkley at #3 to lighten the load on Luck.

Right now the Colts starting RB is Frank Gore who has one foot on the retirement home. Barkley is almost a no brainer for them at #3, unless the Browns take him first, then take their QB at #4. Just look at how much easier Zeke Elliott and Todd Gurley made the transition to the NFL for their young QB's, and Barkley is thought about that highly, in the same category with those two RB's.

 

[flgreen]

I know what you mean, its counterintuitive because you always take the QB over the RB, unless you already have a FQB, and the Browns don't, but in this case the Browns are in a unique position to get BOTH if they do this in the reverse, cause if they don't, its very like the Colts will take Barkley at #3 to lighten the load on Luck.


Right now the Colts starting RB is Frank Gore who has one foot on the retirement home. Barkley is almost a no brainer for them at #3, unless the Browns take him first, then take their QB at #4. Just look at how much easier Zeke Elliott and Todd Gurley made the transition to the NFL for their young QB's, and Barkley is thought about that highly, in the same category with those two RB's.

Agree. It depends on how close the Browns have the QB's rated. If the board unfolds that way, #3 will have a huge trade value. I could easily see the Jets offering a good bit to move up 3 spots for Darnold/Rosen. Hope your right.

 

[AFA2017]

Agree. It depends on how close the Browns have the QB's rated. If the board unfolds that way, #3 will have a huge trade value. I could easily see the Jets offering a good bit to move up 3 spots for Darnold/Rosen. Hope your right.

I agree!

 

[hobson54]

Last night, doing my first mock draft, I realized it makes more sense for the Browns to take Barkley #1 than to take a QB

Last night I didn't have the guts to do it. I went with the chalk pick, Rosen, but today I made the switch and here's why ...

IMO the difference between Rosen, Darnold, Allen and Mayfield is minimal, and because they own the #4 Pick, they can take Barkley #1, compliment their young QB with a great young RB, which takes so much pressure off their young QB to do it all by himself early on, and STILL get the second best QB in the draft on their board, because the Giants likely take Rosen at 2, the Colts will not take a QB at #3, they'll take an OT or edge rusher, then the Browns will have their choice between Darnold, Allen and Mayfield at #4, probably taking Darnold.

However, if they take Rosen #1, the Colts will most likely snatch Barkley at #3, so the Browns won't be able to get the FQB and FRB if they try this in the reverse.

That said, if its my call, unless I think Rosen is a super blue-chip, can't miss QB, so much better than the rest, AND I DON'T, I'm taking Barkley #1 and the QB at #4

they'd have to feel there is no difference between the top 3 QBs on their board to make this move as the colts can trade out of #3 to a QB needy team looking to leap cleveland (if the browns take barkley @1). i find it hard to believe any team would be that indifferent between the top 3 QBs on their board. the last (and only as far as i can tell) time 3 QBs went in the top 4 was 1999 with tim couch, donovan mcnabb and akili smith. if akili smith is your QB, it won't matter who is your RB.

i'm a fan of barkley's and would like him for the jets, but RB is a much easier position to fill than QB.

now if cleveland gets someone like alex smith (ties to their new GM from KC), that could change things. but they can't afford to be too cute and miss out on who they think is the top QB in the draft.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

they'd have to feel there is no difference between the top 3 QBs on their board to make this move as the colts can trade out of #3 to a QB needy team looking to leap cleveland (if the browns take barkley @1). i find it hard to believe any team would be that indifferent between the top 3 QBs on their board. the last (and only as far as i can tell) time 3 QBs went in the top 4 was 1999 with tim couch, donovan mcnabb and akili smith. if akili smith is your QB, it won't matter who is your RB.

i'm a fan of barkley's and would like him for the jets, but RB is a much easier position to fill than QB.

now if cleveland gets someone like alex smith (ties to their new GM from KC), that could change things. but they can't afford to be too cute and miss out on who they think is the top QB in the draft.

Ordinarily I would agree with this, take the best QB on your board and don't get cute about it, because usually there is one QB who stands out above the rest, even in a strong QB class, but IMO this is a rare exception. I don't view Rosen as the kind of QB prospect who stands out above the rest. If there is separation at all between the top four QB's in this draft, IMO the separation is minute and based more on projections (or potential) than actual talent. IOW's I don't see Rosen as that QB prospect who comes around about every ten years, where you look at him and just say WOW, how can this guy possibly miss?

I see Rosen more along the same lines of Darnold, Mayfield and Allen, there are things to like, reasons to be excited about his upside, but also some real concerns that make you have to cross your fingers and hope fo the best.

Because I view it THAT WAY, and I don't see Rosen as a slam-dunk, I'd be willing to gamble on Barkley at #1 and probably the #2 QB at #4, no worse than the #3 Guy if the Colts trade out of the 3 hole, but I'd be okay with that too. Frankly, I think Mayfield is the best "QB talent" in the draft. If he was 6' 2" he'd be the #1 Pick. If he was 6' 4" you couldn't pry him away from Cleveland at #1 if you offered them all of Fort Knox. So if I had to sit there and wait for Mayfield at #4, I'd hardly shed any tears. But if they like Darnold or Allen better, more of the prototype with better size, they'll probably have a crack at both of them too, one at the least, again, with the enticing Mayfield sitting there too. Rare opportunity to get an Elliott/Gurley type super-back AND your potential FQB in the same draft.

 

[gmf1369]

wonder if the Giants this year would be what the Bears were last year... Trade up one spot to take the QB they want if it is Rosen or Darnold even Allen is in the mix... With that being said the best player available for the Browns could of a left tackle or guard being that Joe Thomas isn't getting any younger and was for the first time placed on IR in his career... To me both top tackles are first round worthy but not top 5... But if the Browns want to make a statement they can go left tackle and guard with those two top 5 picks...

Both McGlinchey and Nelson from Notre Dame would bolster that offensive line for years...

There is no separation between Rosen to Rudolph and Rudolph is ranked as a mid second round selection, the Browns could protect themselves financially in the future by waiting to get a second round quarterback since they have failed in drafting all those first round failures...

 

[Jetsfanatic]

If we sign a Veteran QB like Cousins, I would like the Jets to grab Barkley at 6.

 

[Jetsfanatic]

Last night, doing my first mock draft, I realized it makes more sense for the Browns to take Barkley #1 than to take a QB

Last night I didn't have the guts to do it. I went with the chalk pick, Rosen, but today I made the switch and here's why ...

IMO the difference between Rosen, Darnold, Allen and Mayfield is minimal, and because they own the #4 Pick, they can take Barkley #1, compliment their young QB with a great young RB, which takes so much pressure off their young QB to do it all by himself early on, and STILL get the second best QB in the draft on their board, because the Giants likely take Rosen at 2, the Colts will not take a QB at #3, they'll take an OT or edge rusher, then the Browns will have their choice between Darnold, Allen and Mayfield at #4, probably taking Darnold.

However, if they take Rosen #1, the Colts will most likely snatch Barkley at #3, so the Browns won't be able to get the FQB and FRB if they try this in the reverse.

That said, if its my call, unless I think Rosen is a super blue-chip, can't miss QB, so much better than the rest, AND I DON'T, I'm taking Barkley #1 and the QB at #4

Barkley will be there at 4 for the Browns. If they love a particular QB, they should draft that player at 1 then Barkely at 4.

 

[Gramoah]

Barkley will be there at 4 for the Browns. If they love a particular QB, they should draft that player at 1 then Barkely at 4.

Just a hunch, but, I don't believe Barkley will be there at 4. I would like to see the Jets get him but it's not likely to happen.

 

[Jetsfanatic]

Just a hunch, but, I don't believe Barkley will be there at 4. I would like to see the Jets get him but it's not likely to happen.

So would I. Running Backs don't go too high, I believe if the Jets address their QB situation via Free Agency or trade, Barkley may still be their for them at 6.

 

[Gramoah]

So would I. Running Backs don't go too high, I believe if the Jets address their QB situation via Free Agency or trade, Barkley may still be their for them at 6.

If the Browns don't take him at 1 the Giants or Colts will grab him up. I'd almost bet on it.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

So would I. Running Backs don't go too high, I believe if the Jets address their QB situation via Free Agency or trade, Barkley may still be their for them at 6.

Fournette went #4 last year.

Elliott went #4 the year before.

I think teams learned from Gurley who slid to #10 the year before because of a blown out knee, something they didn't have, nor Barkley.

It became obvious that there is a difference between Good RB's, and SUPER RB's, now teams are drafting them higher if they are that special.

That said, IMO the Colts (with 100 year old Frank Gore as their starter) take Barkley if he's there at #3, and it really helps to lighten the load on Andrew Luck too.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

BTW isn't it shocking how much better Fournette made Blake Bortles?

Dude was written off as a bust, suddenly Fournette arrived and they are instant playoff contenders, and Borltes had his best year.

Thats why its a HUGE PLUS if you can grab a SUPER BACK and your potential young FQB in the same draft.

 

[butterscotch]

I would take Audra Barkley you all can have the rest

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I pray they take Baker Manziel.

 

[gmf1369]

1. McGlinchey Browns
2. Barkley Giants
3. Orlando Brown Colts
4. Nelson Browns
5. Rosen Broncos
6. Jets on the clock -- ER Arden Key, QB Sam Darnold, QB Josh Allen, DT Da'Ron Payne, DE Bradley Chubb, etc. but main move could be teams trying to trade up to this pick...

 

[AFA2017]

We've been lucky with our past three #1 picks with Darren Lee still an iffy. There is also a remote chance that we could be picking Browning Nagle. Blair Thomas or Vernon Gholston. We do need a QB in the worst way. I just don't see Mac trading up. He stayed put at #6 and had Williams and Adams fall into our laps. There is still the possibility of one of the 4 Qb's , Barkley or Arden falling to us. Last I remember OLB has been a #1 need right behind QB.

 

[NYJETSDAN16]

We've been lucky with our past three #1 picks with Darren Lee still an iffy. There is also a remote chance that we could be picking Browning Nagle. Blair Thomas or Vernon Gholston. We do need a QB in the worst way. I just don't see Mac trading up. He stayed put at #6 and had Williams and Adams fall into our laps. There is still the possibility of one of the 4 Qb's , Barkley or Arden falling to us. Last I remember OLB has been a #1 need right behind QB.

I believe he did try to trade up for Wentz but the price tag was too steep. I think Mac has learned his lesson, if a franchise QB is worth it, then you pull the trigger, no matter the price.