One way Joe Douglas can make a big splash!

[Green Jets & Ham]

Trade next years 2nd RD Pick to the Redskins for LT Trent Williams.

I know Williams is 30 years old, soon to be 31, but IMO he's still one of the TOP 5 LT's in the league.

That instantly makes Sam a better QB, Bell a better RB, and with a strong defense and aggressive DC it gives us a real chance to win the SB in 2020.

Sure you can point out a weakness here or there, every team can, there are no perfect teams, but IMO Trent Williams makes us good enough to win it all.

Lastly, OL's tend to have a longer shelf life than various other positions, so I think we can get a good few years out of Trent Williams.

As for the Redskins. Why would they trade Trent Williams. There was a major dispute over an injury last year and he swore never to play for them again.

Bottom line, he's sitting out and if you believe him he's not coming back, and since we haven't won a SB in 50 Years, I'd give them a 2nd RD Pick for TW.

BTW this also gives us quality depth at OT depending on who wins the RT Job, Shell or Beachum.

 

[jets82]

This could definitely work and I wouldn’t be mad about it at all but how about this, make the same exact offer to Jacksonville for Jalen Ramsey? Jets need a starting and dominate CB just as bad, if not more then a LT. Call me crazy and I know you guys probably will but our oline isn’t THAT BAD. There were quite a few teams who’s oline(s) were a lot worse and one in particular in Houston and they made the playoffs. The Jets weren’t THAT BAD last year and got better this year by trading for Osemele and drafting the kid from USC.

However; they are THAT BAD at CB! Johnson has underachieved here BIG TIME and I personally don’t have anymore confidence in him. Any other “quote on quote” veteran CB we have here isn’t anything worth taking about and the rest are unproven young players. So what do we really have to work with at CB but NO ONE! I say trade that second round pick next year to Jacksonville for Jalen Ramsey and that will be an even bigger splash for a bigger need! Ramsey is only 24 yrs old and a dominant CB and that’s exactly what we need. Thoughts?

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I don't know if I want to let go of a 2nd round pick, but I said earlier Leonard Williams and a 3rd might be worth it. I agree with going after Trent Williams and then move Beachum to RT or maybe throw him into the deal. I hate giving up a 2nd round pick now that we have a real GM. I kinda want to see what he can get with a 2nd round pick. I'm fine if JD goes after TW, but I don't mind if he stays put with Beachum who was the LT for Bell in Pittsburgh during his best year in 2014.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

J82, I would definitely make the same deal for Ramsey but I don't believe Jacksonville would, he's too young. They'll want a lot more than a 2nd RD Pick.

TCT, I like your idea of throwing Beachum in the deal and making it a 3. I don't know if the Skins will go for that, but if they will, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

 

[jets82]

J82, I would definitely make the same deal for Ramsey but I don't believe Jacksonville would, he's too young. They'll want a lot more than a 2nd RD Pick.

TCT, I like your idea of throwing Beachum in the deal and making it a 3. I don't know if the Skins will go for that, but if they will, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Trust me Ham, I know there's no way HELL the Jags would ever do that but it was just a long away thought. Could you imagine if Douglas was able to pull that off? That would be like, WOW! Just think about it: Adams, Maye and Ramsey in the secondary? Just those three alone would cause pure havoc and add in Johnson, if he could ever get back to his what he once was and a half-way decent 3rd and 4th CB, which I'm sure we have some guys on team capable of that much and this defense would be untouchable. I also like TCT idea but just Beachum and a third. L. Williams not including as trade bait at all.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

if only the three of us could be GM.

 

[Gramoah]

if only the three of us could be GM.

Talk about scar r r r r r r r y.............................................................OMG

 

[cheaterhater]

Trade next years 2nd RD Pick to the Redskins for LT Trent Williams.

I know Williams is 30 years old, soon to be 31, but IMO he's still one of the TOP 5 LT's in the league.

That instantly makes Sam a better QB, Bell a better RB, and with a strong defense and aggressive DC it gives us a real chance to win the SB in 2020.

Sure you can point out a weakness here or there, every team can, there are no perfect teams, but IMO Trent Williams makes us good enough to win it all.

Lastly, OL's tend to have a longer shelf life than various other positions, so I think we can get a good few years out of Trent Williams.

As for the Redskins. Why would they trade Trent Williams. There was a major dispute over an injury last year and he swore never to play for them again.

Bottom line, he's sitting out and if you believe him he's not coming back, and since we haven't won a SB in 50 Years, I'd give them a 2nd RD Pick for TW.

BTW this also gives us quality depth at OT depending on who wins the RT Job, Shell or Beachum.

I would do this happily.... but.... I don't see us winning the Super Bowl in 2020 unless belichick retires after 2019 but it sure would lock us in as 2nd in the east. Cheatahs win 12 or more every year no matter who comes or goes and why would that not be the same this year. so, it is damn hard to beat that or go as a wild card through the cheetahs with home field. The only way to change the look of this division is if the other 3 teams can at least become competitive enough to be able to split with the cheatahs. until then they will just run away with the AFC as usual, because the other divisions in the AFC are competitive and it is harder for teams in the other divisions to get homefield

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

Talk about scar r r r r r r r y................................................. ............OMG

I can promise I would never draft Christian Hackenberg. And I would draft OL.

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

If Darnold is what we think he is, year two it should be crystal clear that we have a franchise QB and Trent Williams would be a Godsend.

Assuming we trade Beachum and a 2 to the Redskins for Williams:

LT Trent Williams
LG Kelechi Osemele
C Jon Harrison
RG Brian Winters
RT Brandon Shell

Sure we can complain about Center, RG or even RT, though I believe they all played fairly well in 2018, but that left-side (Sam's blindside) is lethal.

TW and Osemele will protect Sam's blindside like he's their newborn baby, and they will pop open holes for Bell that you or I can run thru.

That also gives Robby Anderson, Quincy Enunwa, Chris Herndon and Jamison Crowder all more time to gain separation and make big plays downfield.

Then you look at our defense, with the additions of Quinnen Williams, CJ Mosley and Jachai Polite, adding to Jamal Adams and Avery Williamson ...

And don't tell me that team can't win the division title (with Brady turning 42) and even a Super Bowl.

Trent Williams is a MONSTER

 

[cheaterhater]

If Darnold is what we think he is, year two it should be crystal clear that we have a franchise QB and Trent Williams would be a Godsend.

Assuming we trade Beachum and a 2 to the Redskins for Williams:

LT Trent Williams
LG Kelechi Osemele
C James Harrison
RG Brian Winters
RT Brandon Shell

Sure we can complain about Center, RG or even RT, though I believe they all played fairly well in 2018, but that left-side (Sam's blindside) is lethal.

TW and Osemele will protect Sam's blindside like he's their newborn baby, and they will pop open holes for Bell that you or I can run thru.

That also gives Robby Anderson, Quincy Enunwa, Chris Herndon and Jamison Crowder all more time to gain separation and make big plays downfield.

Then you look at out defense, with the additions of Quinnen Williams, CJ Mosley and Jachai Polite, adding to Jamal Adams and Avery Williamson ...

And don't tell me that team can't win the division title (with Brady turning 42) and even a Super Bowl.

Trent Williams is a MONSTER

in theory, they could win the division, but Belichick is the x factor, or should I say Fonts Scarnechia is the x factor. In big games no one gets near brady and believe what you want but that is because of Scarnechia and Belichick more so than brady. Not sure about this past Superbowl, but I believe Brady went untouched at least through the playoffs if not including the superbowl. They always find a way to shut down the best pass rushers. Ask JJ Watt who I believe has only hit Brady once.

you have to be able to outscore them like the Eagles Superbowl. The only time Brady was touched on that game, he fumbled. Or just find a way to hit him like the Giants did twice

Hey, I hope we do it. I hope Q chases him all over the field and then drives him to the ground rubbing the cocky smirk off his face with astroturf. I' m just sayin, it has never happened in 20 years so until it does I can't believe it

 

[Gramoah]

I can promise I would never draft Christian Hackenberg. And I would draft OL.

I would certainly agree with that choice.....................

 

[jets82]

If Darnold is what we think he is, year two it should be crystal clear that we have a franchise QB and Trent Williams would be a Godsend.

Assuming we trade Beachum and a 2 to the Redskins for Williams:

LT Trent Williams
LG Kelechi Osemele
C James Harrison
RG Brian Winters
RT Brandon Shell

Sure we can complain about Center, RG or even RT, though I believe they all played fairly well in 2018, but that left-side (Sam's blindside) is lethal.

TW and Osemele will protect Sam's blindside like he's their newborn baby, and they will pop open holes for Bell that you or I can run thru.

That also gives Robby Anderson, Quincy Enunwa, Chris Herndon and Jamison Crowder all more time to gain separation and make big plays downfield.

Then you look at out defense, with the additions of Quinnen Williams, CJ Mosley and Jachai Polite, adding to Jamal Adams and Avery Williamson ...

And don't tell me that team can't win the division title (with Brady turning 42) and even a Super Bowl.

Trent Williams is a MONSTER

Great theory and I’m good with this, no arguments at all. All I’ll say is this, whether the Jets can trade for Williams or somehow pull off a bigger miracle and trade for Jalen Ramsey, we need the other half to step up. What I mean is if they can trade for Williams then whatever players they currently have now in the secondary, someone or two or three cornerbacks has to step up and do their part. I seriously doubt they are going to find any diamonds in the ruff of cut players and they probably won’t make anymore trades after trading for Williams. Same goes the other way with trading for Ramsey, if they did then the oline we currently have will have to hold it down.

 

[cheaterhater]

They have to trade Williams to us. We have the monopoly of Williams's

 

[Green Jets & Ham]

They have to trade Williams to us. We have the monopoly of Williams's

Its rare when you can draft or trade for a player who takes your team to another level.

Last year the Bears did it with Khalil Mack and they almost made it all the way.

IMO Trent Williams, at the all-important LT, is a similar type of player.

As great as Mack is, Trent is a similar caliber of talent at LT. Could be a 'difference maker'

 

[AFA2017]

Its rare when you can draft or trade for a player who takes your team to another level.

Last year the Bears did it with Khalil Mack and they almost made it all the way.

IMO Trent Williams, at the all-important LT, is a similar type of player.

As great as Mack is, Trent is a similar caliber of talent at LT. Could be a 'difference maker'

IMO I don't think LT Williams is a difference maker. I would rather trade Leo Williams and a 3rd for CB Ramsey. I also believe our OL is below average especially on the right side and Center. Maybe next year we can jettison CB Johnson, add another CB and a Franchise LT and Center.

 

[maxmet]

Trent WIlliams is old for his age - lots of injuries - not the guy you want to trade for if the plan is 2020 success

 

[jets82]

Trent WIlliams is old for his age - lots of injuries - not the guy you want to trade for if the plan is 2020 success

That's exactly what I was thinking! Now yes he would be an big upgrade from what we currently have but how long would (meaning this season or how many years) he last and would it be worth it? I'm good with the trade if I know he would stay healthy and play at an All-Pro level for 4-5 more years but of course there's no guarantees in that. I'm also good with the trade if they went with Beachum and a third for him but the Redskins would probably want more then that. I'm not good at all with them trading L. Williams for him but I would if we could get Jalen Ramsey from the Jaguars. I sorta fell that CB is a bigger need for us at this point anyway. I mean they made a trade for Osemele and draft an OL but they did absolutely nothing at CB but draft a guy who's injury prone and sign a third tier CB from the Falcons.