Is it too early to start ... the FIRE Adam Gase Thread?

[butterscotch]

I'm as sick of watching this crap as anyone - 46 years of it. I've seen it all, and so have many of us on this board. But I'm not ready to throw in the towel after 3 games, one of which our QB was admittedly no better than 80% (and it showed), and the other two games with a 3rd string QB playing in his first games, combined with the loss of our entire starting LB corps, and a below average O-Line that he inherited. I'm no Gase fan, and I'm losing confidence in his ability to get an offense in place that actually remotely resembles a pro offense. But, I want to see where we are after the next three games. We have a bye week. We might get Darnold back and Mosley and Williams. The O-Line might get healthier. Those would be positives.

The other thing I'll say, and I don't know this to be true, but it seems logical, is that Gase might have tailored his scheme specifically for Sam's traits as a QB. If true, he would have to basically scale back his entire system for someone else, and change how he calls plays. I don't have evidence of this, just a suspicion that he will open up the playbook throughout the year. This is the best case scenario and I hope it's true. Right now, the offense is to use Gase's own words, atrocious.

And I have no problem with him calling out the offense. The whole offense stunk. But he owns the playbook and the calls, and that's on him. So he needs to coach better, put players in better positions, and call better games, period.

Point is - not giving up yet, it's just too early. But his seat will get warmer if this continues throughout the season and we have Darnold under center.

You are lucky I get to see this at 1:00 & the same script again at 4:00. Between the 10 starters on the OL there is not one good one on both teams. at this time

 

[ReallyBigfan]

Guys, an offensive line has to develop some kind of coordination to be effective. Our line didn't even practice together once before the season, for various reasons. We have an OL coach that has been proven successful in the past, and I believe that the line will improve steadily as the season goes along. It might end up being too late to salvage this season, depending upon how deep a hole we dig for ourselves, but let's not get too hysterical too soon. [There will plenty of time for hysterics later ]

 

[munchmemory]

Guys, an offensive line has to develop some kind of coordination to be effective. Our line didn't even practice together once before the season, for various reasons. We have an OL coach that has been proven successful in the past, and I believe that the line will improve steadily as the season goes along. It might end up being too late to salvage this season, depending upon how deep a hole we dig for ourselves, but let's not get too hysterical too soon. [There will plenty of time for hysterics later ]

I agree, but that assumes that the players on that line have the talent/skill to actually play the position and become effective. Right now, the guys on the O Line don't impress me that much. I'm thinking they could spend all the time in the world together and still not be very good or ever get to JAG status. Just my opinion.

 

[butterscotch]

Look I hear the jets hired a dance

Instructor​

to teach the OL some

Coordination steps. Only three showed up for the lessons & it did not work out at all.​

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...26B4&FORM=VIRE

It just goes to show you there is no hope for this line.

 

[TebowCan'tThrow]

I agree, but that assumes that the players on that line have the talent/skill to actually play the position and become effective. Right now, the guys on the O Line don't impress me that much. I'm thinking they could spend all the time in the world together and still not be very good or ever get to JAG status. Just my opinion.

We have a LT that looks lost and was never good to begin with. We have a LG that looks past his prime. We have a center that is clearly past his prime. We have a RG that sucks. And we have a RT that might be terrible or might be halfway decent. This OL is going to get Darnold killed.

 

[munchmemory]

We have a LT that looks lost and was never good to begin with. We have a LG that looks past his prime. We have a center that is clearly past his prime. We have a RG that sucks. And we have a RT that might be terrible or might be halfway decent. This OL is going to get Darnold killed.

:global (27):

 

[butterscotch]

We have a LT that looks lost and was never good to begin with. We have a LG that looks past his prime. We have a center that is clearly past his prime. We have a RG that sucks. And we have a RT that might be terrible or might be halfway decent. This OL is going to get Darnold killed.

But is that not the plan to keep the past 50 years go into the future

 

[TonyFtLaud]

Last year's o line ranked 14 in pass protection, with a one handed center who couldn't snap the ball. Currently rank 28th with the addition of 2 all pros..... There's a problem that goes way beyond talent.

 

[butterscotch]

Last year's o line ranked 14 in pass protection, with a one handed center who couldn't snap the ball. Currently rank 28th with the addition of 2 all pros..... There's a problem that goes way beyond talent.

Yeah & AZ line is worse......why me