Did Adam Gase wait too long to fire Gregg Williams?

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Watching the way the defense has played the last two weeks makes me wonder if Adam Gase waited too long to fire defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. The defense has played inspired, mostly mistake-free football in the wins over the Rams and Browns. Frank Bush deserves a lot of credit for the way his unit has played. It is not like he is lining up with the 1985 Bears right now. The Jets were a weak unit to begin with and are now playing a lot of backups. The Jets only had four starters on Sunday from their opening day lineup in Buffalo.

Williams did a good job last year, but it got a little overstated. The Jets played a lot of weak quarterbacks and Williams capitalized on that. The defense’s best games came against Daniel Jones, Dwayne Haskins and Devlin Hodges. That led to an inflated view of how Williams coached.

This season, Williams seemed to coach scared most of the year. That is what made his Cover Zero blitz against the Raiders even more shocking. It was a departure from how he coached most of the season.

If you look at the Jets losses, I think you can attribute three of them directly to the defense. The losses to the Broncos, Patriots and Raiders were all on the defense. Maybe if they beat the Broncos in Week 4, the team gains some confidence and wins a few more games.

The Jets still would have been a bad team, but more like 6-10 bad, not 2-13 bad. Who knows how it would have turned out, but the Jets have been a better team without Williams than with him. Gase probably should have made a move sooner.
 

Bigmoe

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Nah I'm not buying it
Come on
The Ram game was a joke , they overlooked the Jets and thought they just had to show up and still almost won.
The Browns and no receivers , that was quite obvious . And if Mayfield didn't fumble they probably would have won .
This 2 game win streak is as much a joke as the 6 wins at the end last year was.
It's all garbage just like the team .Gregg Williams had nothing to do with it for the good or bad.
 

gmf1369

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Nah I'm not buying it
Come on
The Ram game was a joke , they overlooked the Jets and thought they just had to show up and still almost won.
The Browns and no receivers , that was quite obvious . And if Mayfield didn't fumble they probably would have won .
This 2 game win streak is as much a joke as the 6 wins at the end last year was.
It's all garbage just like the team .Gregg Williams had nothing to do with it for the good or bad.
there was a split partnership or lets say two head coaches with Gase as the number one.

with that said Gregg Williams had freedom to run his unit how he sought fit.

what about the Raiders game we should of won that game.

both Rams & Browns game the Jets played a full game. those teams didn't lose we actually won the games.
 

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maybe, our backups are the kind of players that I always want to see on this team. guys who are happy to get a shot at playing and are out to prove something. over achievers. we could use more of them. belichick always had some
 

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Nah I'm not buying it
Come on
The Ram game was a joke , they overlooked the Jets and thought they just had to show up and still almost won.
The Browns and no receivers , that was quite obvious . And if Mayfield didn't fumble they probably would have won .
This 2 game win streak is as much a joke as the 6 wins at the end last year was.
It's all garbage just like the team .Gregg Williams had nothing to do with it for the good or bad.
Totally agree. Goff Stinks and the Rams skated in thinking this was a gimme.... and if the Browns had 2 of the 4 receivers lost to Covid, they would have beat us like a government mule
 

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The only thing Gase was late upon was firing himself
actually the same game where Gregg Williams was fired was the decision that Gase will not be back next season but instead of an interim throughout the coaching staff they will keep it intact for the rest of the season. So technically he has been fired for weeks...
 

cheaterhater

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I think belichick is about to throw in the towel. wonder how he likes getting back what he handed out for 20 years. why ooh why did they let brady go? he really should be here for this
 

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I saw this article and thought it was pure trash! Williams wasn't the reason that the offense was going 3 and out for 3 straight quarters every single game! Williams isn't the reason that the offense couldn't sustain a drive!

Williams is the reason why the defense was out scoring the offense at one point!

The Defense can't stay on the field for 40 minutes a damn game, and I'm sure that was part of the reason why he had to coach the way he was coaching. The defense also can't score for the offense and the Offense is a historical bottom feeding mess!

Like or don't like Williams all you want, but the article is clearly trying to use Williams as a scapegoat for Gase's pure incompetence!

 

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I didn't read the article, but was there anything in there that talked about the us vs them mentality on the same 'team'? Williams was clearly frustrated by the lack of efficiency and support from the offense, but when it boils over to outside the locker-room the team is done. Firing Williams was addition by subtraction. I'm not excusing Gase for his incompetence on the offensive side of the ball, just stating my observation from the outside. This is all the more reason to move on from the insane idea of 'two head coaches'. Whoever put that idea and the HC and GM reporting separately to the Johnsons should be drawn and quartered.
 
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Bigmoe

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Williams had to throw a party after getting canned
I really hope he told Gase
To fuck himself at the end
 
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