Congratulations to BA & TB

[cheaterhater]

Giants asst coaches coming out of 1960. Tom Landry, Vince Lombardi, Dick Nolan (was a very good HC) Sf, head coach wlash came out that way plus many others...

Parcells started out much younger two SB wins. Ba has one in many less years. Plus what he did with the colts a few years ago is amazing.

What TB did yesterday against one of the great O's of all time allowing just 9 points in the SB......was as good as any d of all sb time

right, the TB that was responsible for the tombady bowl win, was not the TB that gets the credit for the win. it was the one that coached the defense. just like every brady superbowl win. I give him credit for being in the games and most of the time, not screwing it up, but by no means is brady the reason for the tombrady bowl wins. Defense wins championships. Once again, take any superbowl, switch qb,s don't switch the team that the officials are playing for, and the same team wins.

in any wildest stretch of your imagination, can you imagine Mahommes playing on tompabay Sunday and losing? take the reverse. in any wildest stretch of your imagination, can you picture brady as the qb of the chiefs on Sunday and winning?

what brady needs to happen, happens. I have no idea why, but it was been this way for over 20 years. ...and once again. There is no end in site

 

[Old#15]

So, I assume you don't like Brady.

 

[cheaterhater]

So, I assume you don't like Brady.

fair assumption

 

[cheaterhater]

and butterstotch before you plug in other names into my statements and say that it has always been that way, take those same names and plug them in behind bradys offensive line.and behind his defense and see how many tombradybowl wins those guys have. the thing is, is that brady has been afforded this luxury for over 20 years. nobody else has ever had that kind of luck.

Montana may have won 7 superbowls even after having disc surgery but Steve Young was there. Peyton always had to beat belichick to win a superbow. and he always had to do it on the road and in the snow. either one of those guys if they played in NE under belichick for 20 years has 7 rings. maybe more. Rodgers, Brees?

Im not saying the asshole isn't great. I'm just saying that he has been afforded a luxury that no one has ever had or ever will again. and as he has no control over that, then you have to admit that he has been lucky. once again. he plays a brutal contact sport and he never gets any contact. it isnt even possible

Ive hated football since the tuck rule. every year a little more then the last. I never post anything useful here, just silly sarcastic brady hating, Jets sucking dribble. that's what football has become for me. and there is no end in site. I still put the games on, Jet games that is, but I just stare at them blankly. I can't take them seriously because we have stunk for so long and because even if we only stunk a little, we werent going anywhere anyway because of brady and belichick and now just brady. what fun is that. and if anyone else thinks about the last 20 years they will realize that there has been no fun in the NFL at all. even guys who arent openly brady haters have to admit, the only fun games have been when brady and belichick lose... and there havent been too many of them ever

 

[butterscotch]

I somewhat agree with the coaches thing but it was a different league way back when(less teams, less players,etc) which made those staffs possible.
While the defensive game plan Bowles came up with was extremely effective I do think injuries to KC's OL played a part in the overall outcome. It's all speculation though and maybe the result would have been different or not had the KC OL been at full strength. Congrats to Bowles and TB are in order. Just can't praise Brady.........too soon for that yet. I'm still stinging from the ass whuppin he put on our Jets for years. Eff Brady.

I agree he is like finding the one pit with your teeth in a great 4th of july cherry pie

 

[butterscotch]

Fuck them both. as with any brady superbowl, look at it this way. if you took the quarterbacks and switched their teams and left the officials on the team that tommy left, would it change the outcome of the game. fuck no. if brady were the guy getting chased around, he would lose. if brady is the best at anything, he is the best at playing defense and playing offensive line, because I'm sure Mahommes was harassed all day and brady was not. As usual, for me, I didnt watch this game because I knew who won 3 months ago

that said, he won another superbowl and write it down early, He's winning again next year. most likely with the elusive 19-0 because now that he is in the NFC , they suck just like the AFC did while he played there. the packers have Rodgers and nothing else and the Saints will be breaking up this year after Brees leaves and they can't afford to keep all other big contracts.

and guess what team all those Saints who jump ship, will end up on, playing for less money and a superbowl ring. this is no where near ending boys. it is just beginning all over again

Football is a violent contact sport. brady has played it for over 20 years WITH NO CONTACT and why the fuck would he stop as long as he gets to play that way. he can do this for so much longer. he can actually play in the nfl against his children if he keeps up the not getting hit ever. If Dances With Wolves were a movie about brady, bradys indian name would be Stands and Waits

belichick, who I also don't like , now sucks because brady went to a team of all stars , beat a Saints team with a broken Drew Bres who choke ever single year in the playoffs, then beat Rodgers who has no team around him and also cant win in the playoffs and then beat Mahommes wothout his offensive line? Ok. does the world forget why they won all those superbowls? DEFENSE AND OFFENSIVE LINE PLAY. when the Giants got to brady , he lost.

all those years, when the cheatahs had one team to beat in the afc, brady wasnt the one who picked off Peyton and confounded everything he did, it was belichick. for belichick, it had to end sometime because , he had to keep building a team and deal with salary cap and Scarnechia retiring twice. brady can just find a team with the best offensive line and leave. tompabay this year was like lebron james miami heat

so wether you love brady like butterscotch, or you hate brady like me, doesn't matter. what matters is that this has gone on for over 20 years and there is no end in site. so if you hate watching brady win, braceyourself because there is much more to come. he has always claimed he will play til he's 50 and as long as no ne hits him, why the hell wouldnt he?

LOl You know CH i don't like Brady but I respect what he does. when in school at a dance most guy tried to get the best looking girl to dance with them. Most people try to get the best Job they can, I try to catch the most fish when i am fishing, I pick the best looking tomato when at the store & even JD tries to pick the biggest slice of pizza on Friday nights. Why would Brady not want to pick the best OL he can. When the Jets got Namath they picked the best OL they could & got mathis, Snell & boozer so that they could block for Namath. How would Joe have done on Sunday with KC as his team?????

We are all waiting for the draft so we can draft the best players that we can........sorry I forgot we are the Jets lol

 

[butterscotch]

So, I assume you don't like Brady.

No He really likes him. Just fooling us...secret man crush

 

[butterscotch]

and butterstotch before you plug in other names into my statements and say that it has always been that way, take those same names and plug them in behind bradys offensive line.and behind his defense and see how many tombradybowl wins those guys have. the thing is, is that brady has been afforded this luxury for over 20 years. nobody else has ever had that kind of luck.

Montana may have won 7 superbowls even after having disc surgery but Steve Young was there. Peyton always had to beat belichick to win a superbow. and he always had to do it on the road and in the snow. either one of those guys if they played in NE under belichick for 20 years has 7 rings. maybe more. Rodgers, Brees?

Im not saying the asshole isn't great. I'm just saying that he has been afforded a luxury that no one has ever had or ever will again. and as he has no control over that, then you have to admit that he has been lucky. once again. he plays a brutal contact sport and he never gets any contact. it isnt even possible

Ive hated football since the tuck rule. every year a little more then the last. I never post anything useful here, just silly sarcastic brady hating, Jets sucking dribble. that's what football has become for me. and there is no end in site. I still put the games on, Jet games that is, but I just stare at them blankly. I can't take them seriously because we have stunk for so long and because even if we only stunk a little, we werent going anywhere anyway because of brady and belichick and now just brady. what fun is that. and if anyone else thinks about the last 20 years they will realize that there has been no fun in the NFL at all. even guys who arent openly brady haters have to admit, the only fun games have been when brady and belichick lose... and there havent been too many of them ever

All I can tell you is when the Blues won it all it was so special after all these years. Was it better then the Bruins wins I have seen no but it was Special.

Just like Meg Ryan I call it like it is!

 

[NewMFS62]

Here's the best coaching tree:

And add to that:
Peterson won a Super Bowl and he is off the Reid branch. Reid won a Super Bowl, Kubiak won a Super Bowl, and there is no branch off of Denny Green for Dungy who also won a Super Bowl.
Later

 

[butterscotch]

Here's the best coaching tree:
View attachment 2173
And add to that:
Peterson won a Super Bowl and he is off the Reid branch. Reid won a Super Bowl, Kubiak won a Super Bowl, and there is no branch off of Denny Green for Dungy who also won a Super Bowl.
Later

Off all those 25 plus names the jets never hired one of them lol...

 

[butterscotch]

and butterstotch before you plug in other names into my statements and say that it has always been that way, take those same names and plug them in behind bradys offensive line.and behind his defense and see how many tombradybowl wins those guys have. the thing is, is that brady has been afforded this luxury for over 20 years. nobody else has ever had that kind of luck.

Montana may have won 7 superbowls even after having disc surgery but Steve Young was there. Peyton always had to beat belichick to win a superbow. and he always had to do it on the road and in the snow. either one of those guys if they played in NE under belichick for 20 years has 7 rings. maybe more. Rodgers, Brees?

Im not saying the asshole isn't great. I'm just saying that he has been afforded a luxury that no one has ever had or ever will again. and as he has no control over that, then you have to admit that he has been lucky. once again. he plays a brutal contact sport and he never gets any contact. it isnt even possible

Ive hated football since the tuck rule. every year a little more then the last. I never post anything useful here, just silly sarcastic brady hating, Jets sucking dribble. that's what football has become for me. and there is no end in site. I still put the games on, Jet games that is, but I just stare at them blankly. I can't take them seriously because we have stunk for so long and because even if we only stunk a little, we werent going anywhere anyway because of brady and belichick and now just brady. what fun is that. and if anyone else thinks about the last 20 years they will realize that there has been no fun in the NFL at all. even guys who arent openly brady haters have to admit, the only fun games have been when brady and belichick lose... and there havent been too many of them ever

I remember a Rangers scout saying once that take Orr & Espo off of the bruins & the Rangers would be as good. LOL First of all I disagree lol but the fact is they are on the Bruins.

 

[butterscotch]

Look Brady could win eight or ten SB's & it still will not equal what the Jets did in SB III. You got that one & they will never live it down. Same with my 1920 Cardinals being the first team to sign & lead the other teams into the NFL. Very proud of my teams. Even the Blues what they did the first three years that they were in the league by design or luck allowed the NHL to grow. Be proud CH of what we have.

No one that I have ever heard of has made the connection of the 1911 Cardinals & the 2011 Cardinals. The Cardinals may have cost them a WS title by doing what they did in 1911 (real heroes like no others) & I saw how we lost the 1985 WS because of an umpire & the 87 WS when our number three, four & five hitters were injured.......But 100 years later in 2011 God smiled down on the cardinals in that WS. Thanks God you did not forget.

 

[gmf1369]

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[cheaterhater]

LOl You know CH i don't like Brady but I respect what he does. when in school at a dance most guy tried to get the best looking girl to dance with them. Most people try to get the best Job they can, I try to catch the most fish when i am fishing, I pick the best looking tomato when at the store & even JD tries to pick the biggest slice of pizza on Friday nights. Why would Brady not want to pick the best OL he can. When the Jets got Namath they picked the best OL they could & got mathis, Snell & boozer so that they could block for Namath. How would Joe have done on Sunday with KC as his team?????

We are all waiting for the draft so we can draft the best players that we can........sorry I forgot we are the Jets lol

of course everyone wants to pick the best, this and that. my point is that brady has had it for over 20 years. not one of his years did his team in any way resemble a jet team. If Mahommes sucked on the chiefs, Sunday , so would Namath have, just as brady would have had he been on the Chiefs.

above∆ this is all my point. brady wins because his team is better. on the Jets, brady would suck just like Sam. even worse because he has zero mobility. of course, we will never know if I'm right because brady will never play on a bad team

 

[cheaterhater]

Look Brady could win eight or ten SB's & it still will not equal what the Jets did in SB III. You got that one & they will never live it down. Same with my 1920 Cardinals being the first team to sign & lead the other teams into the NFL. Very proud of my teams. Even the Blues what they did the first three years that they were in the league by design or luck allowed the NHL to grow. Be proud CH of what we have.

No one that I have ever heard of has made the connection of the 1911 Cardinals & the 2011 Cardinals. The Cardinals may have cost them a WS title by doing what they did in 1911 (real heroes like no others) & I saw how we lost the 1985 WS because of an umpire & the 87 WS when our number three, four & five hitters were injured.......But 100 years later in 2011 God smiled down on the cardinals in that WS. Thanks God you did not forget.

if brady had played the Jets in bradybowl III. namath would have run for his life the whole game. brady would have stood on his X, and the Jets would have zero superbowl wins. only NFC east teams can break the curse

I was 3 for that game so I have nothing

the Jets aren't winning any bradybowls in my lifetime. zero chance. brady isn't retiring in my lifetime. think of it, some day bradys kids will be in the NFL. and brady will play against them. who will win? depends on if he brings them to the crossroads or not

 

[butterscotch]

of course everyone wants to pick the best, this and that. my point is that brady has had it for over 20 years. not one of his years did his team in any way resemble a jet team. If Mahommes sucked on the chiefs, Sunday , so would Namath have, just as brady would have had he been on the Chiefs.

above∆ this is all my point. brady wins because his team is better. on the Jets, brady would suck just like Sam. even worse because he has zero mobility. of course, we will never know if I'm right because brady will never play on a bad team

I don't hear anyone say this about Jeter or ruth

 

[butterscotch]

I don't hear anyone say this about Jeter or ruth

no one saying being smart does not help

 

[Old#15]

As much as I hated Brady for his antics and crying to the refs, I hated BillB 10x more. He will always be a cheating bastard in my mind. I recall watching Brady pick apart the Jets and his defenses seemingly knowing what play was coming, and thinking they know our plays. I will take that to the grave. That is why I'm giving Brady credit now, because he did it without the stigma that the cheating bastard created. As far as great OLines, some of the credit has to go to a smart QB like Brady who understands what he is seeing from the defense and is able to adjust accordingly. Remember all of those great Patriot OLinemen after they went to other teams? Right, most of them were shadows of their former Patriot glorious selves.

 

[butterscotch]

if brady had played the Jets in bradybowl III. namath would have run for his life the whole game. brady would have stood on his X, and the Jets would have zero superbowl wins. only NFC east teams can break the curse

I was 3 for that game so I have nothing

the Jets aren't winning any bradybowls in my lifetime. zero chance. brady isn't retiring in my lifetime. think of it, some day bradys kids will be in the NFL. and brady will play against them. who will win? depends on if he brings them to the crossroads or not

I was not born for the football Cards last win but I am still proud of it same as with George Washington, Jefferson, Abe etc for the USA it is all part of me. Rogers Hornsby, Dizzy Dean, Slaughters mad dash home, Ole Pete Alexander striking out Tony L, Stan the man are all part of my sports DNA. You think I don't love Tiny Thompson & some of the old Bruins that i never have seen. I sure do. Be proud of our past & look forward to the future.

I will say the same thing here that I said in Germany in 1982 to a bunch of Austrians in my speech to them. (I had on my 1982 Cardinals Championship jersey & hat) Just because that wall has been up for years does not mean it is not coming down soon. They were scared that we would start a war. I said no.... strength will bring down that wall. They followed me out on the streets saying I was wrong. a friend said Butterscotch you will start a riot. I said no Mark they are just scared. The last thing I said was that wall is coming down soon.

So i say the same thing to you strength will build the Jets we just need the right leaders. Don't suffer enjoy the road to a championship, Keep fighting keep watching the Jets, If you miss the ride what good is the final destination. I enjoyed the Blues season when they were in last place of the entire league on Jan 31st...they won it all baby they won it all This has never been done even the miracle braves of 1914 did not do that.

So I think you need to decide if you are a real fan or not. We all do.

I would say why don't you become a Guardians fan but in a few years Brady will end up there lol. Look forget Brady & just enjoy the Jets. It is your team or it is not your team......... I hope that the cardinals get to face Brady next year in the playoffs.....If we lose we lose if we win all the sweeter.

Why follow something you don't enjoy Peace brother

 

[butterscotch]

As much as I hated Brady for his antics and crying to the refs, I hated BillB 10x more. He will always be a cheating bastard in my mind. I recall watching Brady pick apart the Jets and his defenses seemingly knowing what play was coming, and thinking they know our plays. I will take that to the grave. That is why I'm giving Brady credit now, because he did it without the stigma that the cheating bastard created. As far as great OLines, some of the credit has to go to a smart QB like Brady who understands what he is seeing from the defense and is able to adjust accordingly. Remember all of those great Patriot OLinemen after they went to other teams? Right, most of them were shadows of their former Patriot glorious selves.

Know Jerry Grote this is one great post. You are spot on.