What did Jets QB Zach Wilson do wrong

skop

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I watched this analysis live, and for them to draw the conclusions they did, means they knew "and" applied a motive to Zach's choice; the motive being a glory hound.

IMO, that is irresponsible.
 

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I watched this analysis live, and for them to draw the conclusions they did, means they knew "and" applied a motive to Zach's choice; the motive being a glory hound.

IMO, that is irresponsible.
I have been saying this all year long and prior to the draft...
so for them to come out and say this cements my position on this kid's process of thought...
 

Seaver41

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absolutely - you give a QB a play with options is telling the QB ALL the options are equally functionable............that was not the case. WHY put a QB sneak in as an option at all??? Is your ROOKIE supposed to then decipher if this is a joke/test/serious? That's not how it works-you get a play and that's it. Zach's eyes told him A gap- but he was doomed to fail no matter what he was seeing. Look at the tape - he's making no effort to gain 2 yards - his body and push are all about 1 yard.

I do have a concern here- Saleh has said a yard......was there confusion on distance?
 

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I do have a concern here- Saleh has said a yard......was there confusion on distance?
I think he meant if it was a yard then that would be the right call by the rookie QB
but being it was 2 yards there was no reason in Zach Wilson's head that he can sneak it for two yards...

I watched the tape again from three angles and there is no conceivable way Zach could say he saw an opening in the A Gap there was none...
he wanted to be the guy to be the Hero to beat the Goat...
 

skop

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I think he meant if it was a yard then that would be the right call by the rookie QB
but being it was 2 yards there was no reason in Zach Wilson's head that he can sneak it for two yards...

I watched the tape again from three angles and there is no conceivable way Zach could say he saw an opening in the A Gap there was none...
he wanted to be the guy to be the Hero to beat the Goat...

a.) Berrios scores, or gets the first...#2 (fairly or not) is the Hero who beats the GOAT.
b.) #2 get the first...#2 (fairly or not) is the Hero who beats the GOAT.

I am not in his head or heart, so i cannot assign a motive, but the kid isn't dumb. He isn't chucking all over the yard for the entire game, so for them to say #2 felt the need to get the glory by running is flat out irresponsible. He gets that anyway bc of his position...he knows that.
 
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skop

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gotta really question OC as to why it was an option

the way i heard Saleh explain it was (to paraphrase)...the play design was perfect for the Defensive Set, so the only option was for a handoff to #10. However, the play itself is an option play that didn't have one of them stripped.

I think LaFleur counted on #2 to know they were in goal line, so he didn't think it was necessary to make the sneak unavailable.
 

Greentilldeath

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Bart Scott hates Zach. Take his opinion with a grain of salt ……. I think Zach may have thought Berrios was hurt (he was limping the prior play) And decided to go for it. I get the decision by Saleh….. but if it were me…. I would have kicked the FG. Pretty sure Arians would have played for the tie once Brady scored.
 

Seaver41

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Bart Scott hates Zach. Take his opinion with a grain of salt ……. I think Zach may have thought Berrios was hurt (he was limping the prior play) And decided to go for it. I get the decision by Saleh….. but if it were me…. I would have kicked the FG. Pretty sure Arians would have played for the tie once Brady scored.
listening to those clowns gives no insight............and from quotes attributed to them that I have read......agenda driven commentary. Maybe they don't like rich kids. The play over the course of the games since the injury does not fit the bs narrative.
 

skop

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listening to those clowns gives no insight............and from quotes attributed to them that I have read......agenda driven commentary. Maybe they don't like rich kids. The play over the course of the games since the injury does not fit the bs narrative.

+1
 

TonyFtLaud

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Look at Berrios reaction to the play.. throws his hands up like WTF, unsnaps his helmet and walks off the field before the refs call the gain short...
 

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listening to those clowns gives no insight............and from quotes attributed to them that I have read......agenda driven commentary. Maybe they don't like rich kids. The play over the course of the games since the injury does not fit the bs narrative.
ok so their narrative and what I have been saying all season long is BS narrative?

so my opinion that was cemented by former players that played for the Jets may have been overcritical on the rookie?

thanks for clarifying my BS understanding of Zach Wilson
 

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Look at Berrios reaction to the play.. throws his hands up like WTF, unsnaps his helmet and walks off the field before the refs call the gain short...
because he knew he was suppose to get the ball but the ROOKIE chose his own number to be the FUCKING HERO he thinks he is

re watch the post game see his reaction is trying to come off like he saw something and convince himself he made the right call on the field
 

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count how many ums there is from Zach and the laughter by the press and the ums from the media

they all about um lemme see how to respond to this, make something so I don't look like an ass..

um
 

TonyFtLaud

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because he knew he was suppose to get the ball but the ROOKIE chose his own number to be the FUCKING HERO he thinks he is

re watch the post game see his reaction is trying to come off like he saw something and convince himself he made the right call on the field
I'm in agreement with you.
 

Tinstar

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Guys seriously the HC covered his QB so there’s no reason for the fans too also . You want to know what bothers me the most about this whole thing. I am pretty sure this was spoken about in the locker room before the coach met the press . The HC came out covered his QB and threw his OC under the bus .
Wilson followed his HC with his press meeting and that kid stood up there and said if he handed off the ball and it didn’t work everyone would be saying why he didn’t sneak it . It was 2.5 yards to go so who in their right mind would question not sneaking it ?
We have an awesome talented kid who is probably the best QB in our division. The problem is he’s the pretty girl who knows she’s pretty.
 
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