CBs Look Ahead: Young Group 'Got Better Every Single Day'

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Jets PlayerGP - GS - DNP - IAD Snaps - ST Snaps
Bryce Hall17-17-0-01169-47
Michael Carter II15-7-0-1776-126
Brandin Echols14-14-0-0760-76
Javelin Guidry17-3-0-0486-134
Jason Pinnock (CB/S)12-2-1-3201-104
Isaiah Dunn12-1-0-5114-80
Justin Hardee16-0-0-01-368
Rachad Wildgoose5-0-0-31-29
Lamar Jackson1-0-0-00-5

Finished on Practice Squad: Jackson
Finished on PS/Reserve/COVID: Ken Webster
No Longer With Team: Jackson, Webster
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'22: Youth Will Be Served
The Jets' corners didn't rack up gaudy stats, but they competed, deflected, tackled and showed that their youth, combined with their natural progression from year one to year two, could turn them into a formidable group. Consider the five players who got starts on the corner or in the slot. Bryce Hall, the "graybeard" of the group, turns 25 years old in May. Brandin Echols, the RCB starter opposite Hall, reaches 25 during the season. At nickel, Michael Carter II will be a mere 23 next month and Javelin Guidry celebrates his 24th birthday during training camp. Isaiah Dunn turned 23 last month. All five are beginning either their second or third pro seasons.

As HC Robert Saleh assessed before the season finale at Buffalo: "Do they have things they've got to improve on? For sure, but I love the way they've gotten better every single day. From OTAs, from the first drills, where it was like, man, this guy's got a long way to go, to now, they've gotten better all the way across the board and I'm excited to see the development moving forward."


'21: Promising Numbers from Hall and Echols
The Jets corners had some big plays and big days during the recently completed season. Hall led the defense with 16 pass defenses, the most by a Jets DB in a season in eight seasons. But Hall is still looking for his second pro interception, and his first since picking off then-Ram Jared Goff in 2020. Echols was tied for the INT lead with S Ashtyn Davis at two, and Echols did something no Jets rookie DB has done since the Eighties — return an interception for a touchdown, against Tua Tagovailoa and the Dolphins at Miami. Include Carter in the mix and the three main CB starters all had at least 60 tackles on the season, a number we dove into Inside the Numbers last weekend.

There's still work to be done, since the Jets came in at 30th in the NFL in net passing yards allowed/game and 29th in net passing yards allowed/play. But that should improve with edge Carl Lawson's return to the passing-yards equation. And the Jets corners did respond to Saleh's and DC Jeff Ulbrich's mantra of reducing "explosives," giving up 3.0 completions of 25-plus yards in the first nine games to 2.0 of 25-plus over the last eight.

CB Trivia
Hall was the only Jet on either side of the ball to start all 17 games this past season, and so he is the only player in franchise history to start 17 games in a regular season. He also logged 1,169 defensive snaps, not only the most on the Jets this past season but also third-most in the NFL in 2021 and the most by any Jets defender since play counts became readily available in 2012.

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We are going to bring up stuff Saleh said at the start of this year for years to come....

"You can't be afraid to play young guys".
 

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Bryce Hall/Brandin Echols/Michael Carter II is a decent trio but we still need another X-Factor CB on the outside in order to complete our CB unit (and make it elite).

#1: X-Factor.
#2: Bryce Hall.
Nickel: Brandin Echols.
Dime: Michael Carter II.

i read an article about a new form of stat keeping for CB's...Echols was actually better than Bryce by their metrices.

the only reason for bringing it up was everyone expected Hall to be the Hall who should have been a late first/ early second pick.
but nobody expected Echols to be as good as he was... what if we just got a snip it of what he can really be; what if he is the X-Factor?
 

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i wanted his running mate at KY, "Joseph"... but we got the better of the two, IMO after the fact!
we had a thread at the beginning of training camp last year and was about who was more than likely to make the 53 man roster not only did I say Brandin Echols -- I projected him as a potential starter to unseat Blessaun Austin because of his man cover skills were better... I believe it was @SackExchange who said that Jason Pinnock would make the roster too because of his man cover abilities but I had reservations about his closing speed, which I believe I stated then he would be better served to position change to safety -- welp...

Echols might of been a day 3 pick because the media hyped up the other prospects, intangibles are hard to recognize when the media is blowing smoke on talent that does not really deserve it just because of the institution they went to...

Bryce Hall has been stellar because of his closing burst and willingness to refine his tackling technique and stick his head in there... He is a top talent but he is that number two guy on the roster not the number one.

Jets might of struck gold with Echols - I believe he can develop into that number one guy and he ended the season on a high note with some valuable memorabilia.

Jets have two capable starting nickel backs in MC2 & Guidry, those who say otherwise are fooling themselves. Guidry is that mini mouse type corner that plays like a linebacker.

MC2 has the cover skills and willingness to lay the wood and wrap up tackles.

The question is who are the backup outside perimeter corners? Can Wildgoose become that backup for Hall? Same makeup, but does he have the same heart? He is only 21 going to be 22 so there is a good chance the Jets stole potential. Isaiah Dunn could develop into that role player behind Echols he has the makeup, I think it is more confidence then anything but if they feel he is not the guy he could make a solid practice squad guy and the team could look to day three for another corner to take that place, but right now anyone's guess.
 

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i wanted his running mate at KY, "Joseph"... but we got the better of the two, IMO after the fact!
Joseph to me was more similar to Bryce Hall that role player to the star even though he got the accolades through the media. How is he doing now? oh yea that is right: played in 10 games started 2 awesome
 

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you nailed it... by the end of the year, i was quietly thinking "what am i missing...height, weight, strength, length, speed, twitch...he has them all".

JD & Saleh nailed this past draft for seeing that it was so deep at CB.

Also, i have to confess, I was @SackExchange too with Pinnock; i loved his ability to react to balls in the air. But Echols actually gets to the balls in the air.
 

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Joseph to me was more similar to Bryce Hall that role player to the star even though he got the accolades through the media. How is he doing now? oh yea that is right: played in 10 games started 2 awesome

LOL...that is fair. the naysayers will say "he would have started with us", but then we say, "correct, but we would be without Eli Moore to have Joseph start for us instead of having both Echols and Moore".
 
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