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cheaterhater

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I don't hate Saleh at all and maybe I'm reacting to that last drive because the Jets should have had a much easier FG. That 100% was on Saleh which he took blame for. Or maybe I'm reacting to his defense giving a 50 yard TD to a backup TE. Or maybe watching multiple 1st halves and the team coming out flat. Thats also on Saleh. Or maybe I'm just trying to stir the pot.
I agree. All of that was SOJ.
 

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I really like Saleh. When you are winning his style of coaching works, but the rah rah coaches get steamrolled when the shit hits the fan.
Yeah. That’s what I’m afraid of. i think i said it before, if not i meant to. We have to keep winning at least a respectable amount of games for the youngsters and the veterans also, to keep believing in the system. Once they doubt it, everyone has to go cause it’s near impossible to get the belief back
 

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He has proven to both be talented and also replaceable. We won plenty of games without him in the gameplay.
They won without him because he wasn’t being involved in the first place. So that wasn’t that hard to do but it doesn’t change or diminish his talent and potential. If they get him truly involved from this point on, it’s no telling what he and G. Wilson can do. Then Moore won’t be replaceable.
 

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I really like Saleh. When you are winning his style of coaching works, but the rah rah coaches get steamrolled when the shit hits the fan.
You consider Saleh a rah rah HC??? I don’t necessarily see him that way. Just because your players love you doesn’t necessarily make you a rah rah HC.
 

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Yeah. That’s what I’m afraid of. i think i said it before, if not i meant to. We have to keep winning at least a respectable amount of games for the youngsters and the veterans also, to keep believing in the system. Once they doubt it, everyone has to go cause it’s near impossible to get the belief back
That’s fair but that can be the same with any type of HC, no?
 

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They won without him because he wasn’t being involved in the first place. So that wasn’t that hard to do but it doesn’t change or diminish his talent and potential. If they get him truly involved from this point on, it’s no telling what he and G. Wilson can do. Then Moore won’t be replaceable.
Maybe it's just me, but I've seen a few plays he needed to make. Like yesterday on the last catch, he ran backwards a few yards I think trying to get out of bounds but it made the kick more difficult. He caught it at the 36 and could have sat down. There was another game he caught a ball and lazily didn't drag his foot. Might have been vs Bills. Asking for a trade in the middle of a win streak shows his character IMO.
 

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Maybe it's just me, but I've seen a few plays he needed to make. Like yesterday on the last catch, he ran backwards a few yards I think trying to get out of bounds but it made the kick more difficult. He caught it at the 36 and could have sat down. There was another game he caught a ball and lazily didn't drag his foot. Might have been vs Bills. Asking for a trade in the middle of a win streak shows his character IMO.
I can agree with this but his talent and potential is just about limitless. He’s not G. Wilson but he can be an excellent #2 or #3. Gotta keep that type of talent on this team.
 

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You consider Saleh a rah rah HC??? I don’t necessarily see him that way. Just because your players love you doesn’t necessarily make you a rah rah HC.
I think what somewhat sours me on Saleh is every player injured he is either lying, misinformed or stupid. And the comment we are taking receipts. Well that was great when they were winning and now this team has fallen apart which its his job to make it work.
 

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That could be true, but should the WR be making coaching decisions. Just do what you are supposed to do.
Yeah but he’s busting his ass running routes knowing 9-10 times Zach can’t get him the ball. Plus they’re using him as a decoy must if the time. That’s gotta piss him off knowing he’s worth much more than that!
 

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Yeah but he’s busting his ass running routes knowing 9-10 times Zach can’t get him the ball. Plus they’re using him as a decoy must if the time. That’s gotta piss him off knowing he’s worth much more than that!
Seen him half ass plenty of routes. I definitely think the coaching staff mismanaged him, but I learned a lot from his response.
 

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Yeah but he’s busting his ass running routes knowing 9-10 times Zach can’t get him the ball. Plus they’re using him as a decoy must if the time. That’s gotta piss him off knowing he’s worth much more than that!

He'll figure it out. Sometimes people forget that the decoy is just as important as the guy that gets the ball if the play works. That's why successful QB s try to spread the ball around a lot. Defenses can't be sure who to watch out for. Eventually, when they all get in sync, they will take turns being the decoy, making them equally the decoy. You have to keep defenses thinking so you can't keep using the same guy as the decoy and all the receivers will get a share of the touches. The Jets aren't quite there yet in that respect but I believe they will get there.
 
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He'll figure it out. Sometimes people forget that the decoy is just as important as the guy that gets the ball if the play works. That's why successful QB s try to spread the ball around a lot. Defenses can't be sure who to watch out for. Eventually, when they all get in sync, they will take turns being the decoy, making them equally the decoy. You have to keep defenses thing so you can't keep using the same guy as the decoy and all the receivers will get a share of the touches. The Jets aren't quite there yet in that respect but I believe they will get there.
Agreed
 

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JD is fine. Best GM we have ever had. Sure he missed on Zach, but he has assembled a roster ( outside of the QB) that’s on par with Buffalo, on par with Miami, and better than NE. Some may say he missed on Becton, but I’m not ready to say that yet. Sure he is fragile, but the guy at least proved in can play in the league talent wise. Saleh is fine as a head coach, CEO type. Ulbrich is fine, and I’m shocked actually because I wanted to run him outta town after last year. MLF …. IMHO is not a good OC. Very innovated…yes, but far too rigid and doesn’t design to fit player strength. But still young though, and I don’t think he is going anywhere
 
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