Zach is finished as a Jet

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I mean, he is on the roster and his salary is locked, so no reason to throw it away. He doesn't belong behind Center at the moment, but maybe resetting (both Zach and expectations) can work out for both sides. If you get the right QB coach in here, and the right OC, maybe some of the talent can be realized at some point (it's just not now).

If we get offered value for him, yes cut bait and run; but I don't see any reason to just dump the pick & cash for nothing. He's not what JD thought he was. So now what is he going to do about it?
Problem with that is most likely next year, M-F’n-W or Carr or Jimmy G or whomever will show themselves as being our long term answer. At least the next 5-7 years and then what are we supposed to do with Zach? Just keep him and let him collect the money for nothing?
 

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Problem with that is most likely next year, M-F’n-W or Carr or Jimmy G or whomever will show themselves as being our long term answer. At least the next 5-7 years and then what are we supposed to do with Zach? Just keep him and let him collect the money for nothing?
That’s basically what you have to do at this point. Try to rehab him and then trade him after next year. We are on the hook for a ton of dead money.
 

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That’s basically what you have to do at this point. Try to rehab him and then trade him after next year. We are on the hook for a ton of dead money.
Let him sit behind a veteran and see if the light comes on. Worked for Aaron Rodgers and Steve Young. At least if he is backup his salary isn't a total loss.
 

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That’s basically what you have to do at this point. Try to rehab him and then trade him after next year. We are on the hook for a ton of dead money.
This is absolutely unbelievable! Can’t cry over split milk but if they would have just drafted Justin Fields in the first damn place! SMDH!
 

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Or they could have kept Sam Darnold who is playing for first place this weekend.
Honestly I was against drafting Zach from the start. We never built anything around Darnold and quit on him (while giving him nothing that he needed).

I'm not saying Darnold will end up being a Franchise QB, but no one could honestly answer that question when we moved on to Zach. Zach on the other hand has had plenty of offensive weapons throw his way (sans a reliable O-line) and still is not ready.
 

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Oh yeah, I guess that too!
Imagine if he somehow beats brady this weekend?! Wont happen but man, that would be hilarious.
I heard Carolina has hired Ghostbusters to clean out the stadium before the game
 

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Oh yeah, I guess that too!
Actually let me change my original response to this, which was condescending anyway! Just in case you didn’t notice that, LOL!

If Darnold was still with this team, we would have to remember that he would have been with last years team as well. Which was horrible, plus hurt quite a bit. With that said, would Darnold have done any better with last years team??? I doubt that seriously!

Maybe this years team he would have been ok with but last year, I think it’s pretty safe to say he would have gotten crushed and they would have gotten rid of him anyway. Yes, this is all hypothetical and none of us know for sure but it is a very educated guess.

Darnold was benched for whatever reason for Mayfield. Do to his poor performance and injury history with the Panthers last year, I’m guessing. I mean they brought Cam Newton last year. He finally got his job back because they cut Baker and the other QB was horrible!

So drafting Justin Fields I believe would have been the much better move! Just saying …
 
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Actually let me change my original response to this, which was condescending anyway! Just in case you didn’t notice that, LOL!

If Darnold was still with this team, we would have to remember that he would have been with last years team as well . Which was horrible, plus hurt quite a bit. With that said, would Darnold have done any better with last years team??? I doubt that seriously!

Maybe this years team he would have been ok with but last year, I think it’s pretty safe to say he would have gotten crushed and they would have gotten rid of him anyway. Yes, this is all hypothetical and none of us know for sure but it is a very educated guess.

Darnold was benched for whatever reason for Mayfield. Do to his poor performance and injury history with the Panthers last year, I’m guessing. I mean they brought Can Newton last year. He finally got his job back because they cut Baker and the other QB was horrible!

So drafting Justin Fields I believe would have been the much better move! Just saying …
Justin Fields won't last in this league as a runner. Darnold was never given this team which would have been nice to see. Didn't happen so we all have moved on. Zach should have never been drafted in the first round. Like with Becton, JD swung for the fences with a high risk player. Hasn't worked either time. Just keep drafting late round QB's every year until one sticks. Mike White might be that late round guy. We picked him up from Dallas, but he has been here for years. I think if LaFleur gets out of the way White could be a future decent QB if he can stay healthy.
 

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Justin Fields won't last in this league as a runner. Darnold was never given this team which would have been nice to see. Didn't happen so we all have moved on. Zach should have never been drafted in the first round. Like with Becton, JD swung for the fences with a high risk player. Hasn't worked either time. Just keep drafting late round QB's every year until one sticks. Mike White might be that late round guy. We picked him up from Dallas, but he has been here for years. I think if LaFleur gets out of the way White could be a future decent QB if he can stay healthy.
That is very true about Fields but with this Jets roster, he wouldn’t have to run like that. He would actually be able to roll out here and there on occasion. As long as he could play the position from inside the pocket he would be straight on this team and with the weapons we have, I don’t see why not!
 

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That is very true about Fields but with this Jets roster, he wouldn’t have to run like that. He would actually be able to roll out here and there on occasion. As long as he could play the position from inside the pocket he would be straight on this team and with the weapons we have, I don’t see why not!
I think our OL is one of the worst in the league so I think he would still have to run plenty. I also think these weapons are overrated. Corey Davis can't catch or stay healthy. Berrios sucks. Elijah Moore is not in the gameplan. We have Garrett Wilson which might be a great combo since they played at OSU together. We will never know. Let's just hope Mike White is the guy because he seems to make the rest of this roster much better than Zach ever did.
 

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I think our OL is one of the worst in the league so I think he would still have to run plenty. I also think these weapons are overrated. Corey Davis can't catch or stay healthy. Berrios sucks. Elijah Moore is not in the gameplan. We have Garrett Wilson which might be a great combo since they played at OSU together. We will never know. Let's just hope Mike White is the guy because he seems to make the rest of this roster much better than Zach ever did.
When MW plays he doesn’t seem to have to run for his life. Maybe it’s because he’s smart and can read the field fast enough and get the ball out his hands and throw his weapons open. Zach obviously isn’t smart enough and probably will never be. Now Fields on the other hand has to run for his life because he has absolutely nothing. No oline and no real weapons.

Breece Hall goes without saying. So does Garrett Wilson. Elijah Moore proved himself to be a true threat. Yes he isn’t in the game plan much this year, which is the stupidest shit on earth but his non-production ain’t on him. Mims needs more opportunities as well. Berrios is having a down year and C. Davis is a disappointment but he can better I think. Our TEs are pretty decent also.

I think Fields on this Jets roster would be just fine. He’s finding away to make it happen with the Bears and look like a more than competent player. So why couldn’t he do it with us?
 
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Lol. You ever consider Xanax? Maybe Valium
DUDE, TCT and I are discussing if Justin Fields could have possibly worked as the QB of the Jets. WE ARE ALL AWARE THAT HE DID’NT GET DRAFTED HERE AND WON’T GET TRADED HERE! That’s still not going to stop me from discussing this matter or whatever I want to discuss that’s New York Jets related! If you don’t like it, simply don’t read it and definitely don’t respond to it! Either way, IT MAKES ME NO DAMN DIFFERENCE!
Alright I'm gonna step in and try to diffuse this. We have a big game Sunday. An actual meaningful game in January. Let's focus on that.
 

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When MW plays he doesn’t seem to have to run for his life. Maybe it’s because he’s smart and can read the field fast enough and get the ball out his hands and throw his weapons open. Zach obviously isn’t smart enough and probably will never be. Now Fields on the other hand has to run for his life because he has absolutely nothing. No oline and no real weapons.

Breece Hall goes without saying. So does Garrett Wilson. Elijah Moore proved himself to be a true threat. Yes he isn’t in the game plan much this year, which is the stupidest shit on earth but his non-production ain’t on him. Mims needs more opportunities as well. Berrios is having a down year and C. Davis is a disappointment but he can better I think. Our TEs are pretty decent also.

I think Fields on this Jets roster would be just fine. He’s finding away to make it happen with the Bears and look like a more than competent player. So why couldn’t he do it with us?
No, MW stays in the pocket and takes enormous hits. Fields would probably be OK for the same reason Strev was OK, tucking the ball and running is different from doing the 'Dieing Fly' Zach-style. As for Zach I remember there were times last season when he seemed OK, but this season he has lost his way; so Douglas and Saleh would not be completely out of order in expending some effort on reclamation.
 

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Alright I'm gonna step in and try to diffuse this. We have a big game Sunday. An actual meaningful game in January. Let's focus on that.
Look at TCT being the voice of reason here. I can definitely appreciate that!

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