Official Game Thread: New York Jets at New York Giants

hatnlvr

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I partially disagree. Zach is learning. He is better. He did suck before this year

he also has never played behind a good line and a young qb behind a bad line, almost never succeeds. And if they get pounded regularly, they play like a deer in the headlights because they have been conditioned to. Pavlov’s rule

before this season, I had no faith in Zach. This year I have some hope

and Breece did nothing running the ball today and we won. If we judge him the way we judge Zach, then he must suck too. Plus, like our oline, Breece has missed as many games as he has played
You do realize Breece scored our only offensive TD right?
 

cheaterhater

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You do realize Breece scored our only offensive TD right?
Yes. On a pass play. That’s why I said he sucked “running” the ball, which, if I weren’t trying to make a different point, I would have also blamed on the offensive, offensive line
 

MiJetFan

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I don't believe Zach is a starter in this League. What We are seeing is what JD and Saleh saw. The KID shows flashes. Unfortunately that's all Zach seems to be. He'll make a great play but cannot sustain that level throughout the game. Some have it, some don't. Zach doesn't have it.
 

beresford

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I don't see why we have to apologise for the 40 yard PI, it was a stupid play by the Giant defender who should have given Taylor the chance to drop it. The Giants were only in the game because of three bonehead penalties by our defense that had Saleh covering his eyes, You shouldn't underestimate the effect of our ersatz center, if you watch the exchanges you can see Zach uncertain as to what height the ball will come to him. Our offensive line is not good, even when a few of them are healthy. They are at best average at pass pro and it is no coincidence that none of our running backs can make yards between the tackles. Now we wait to see just how pyrrhic our victory was in terms of injury to our first and third choice centers.

Nobody is saying Zach is the second coming of Namath, but those who put all of our offensive failings on his shoulders are in for a disappointment.
 

MiJetFan

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Lol. The Giants missed 2 FG's. The GIANTS lost this game, Zach didn't win it. They were lucky to even have a chance to win the game. If the Giants make those FG's it's moot. Zach made some plays but let's not go overboard here. Sheesh.
 

hatnlvr

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Yes. On a pass play. That’s why I said he sucked “running” the ball, which, if I weren’t trying to make a different point, I would have also blamed on the offensive, offensive line
It was a dump off and he broke 3 tackles to run that to the house. Technically a pass play, but reality that was all on Breece.

They stacked the box all day, since we don’t have a QB, so I guess put it on coaching that we didn’t run 50 times and limit our throws to 10 attempts :sneaky:
 

hatnlvr

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“The Jets were 1-for-14 on third down. I’m not even mad at Zach Wilson anymore,” Colon said. “I’m not. I’m mad at coach [Robert] Saleh. I’m mad at that whole building, because time after time, they’ve forced down our throats that Zach Wilson is the future for the New York Jets. Because of what he does in practice is good enough for what he does on the field.

“You cannot watch that tape and say that right now. It is an embarrassment. It is not cute anymore. It is beyond cute. You ask your third string offensive line to fight tooth and nails and we only got one first down in which he ran for.”

 

hatnlvr

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I get supporting the kid but can we do it with him on the sideline? How many times does someone have to fail miserably before we admit “he just can’t do it?” He’s shown us everything we need to see, yet we ignore the 98% to harp on the 2%? This is just completely illogical.

This is year 3 for gods sake! And he’s played as a starter since year 1! We fucked up! He is not an NFL QB! For the love of god, pppplllllleeeeeaaaaaassssseeeee move on!!!
 

butterscotch

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You should know by know, I’m generally as negative as you and right now I still think we suck. That said, I can’t blame it all on Zach. Today he won the game when it was there for the taking.

the offensive line can never be good if they never get to play together because they keep getting hurt. They decide who wins and loses more than anyone and Zach has never consistently played behind a good one. Brady behind this line retires every year. Maybe Zach sucks. Maybe he doesn’t, but until he plays behind a consistently good line for a season, we will never know

Rodgers may be the goat, and he didn’t last 4 plays here
He would have lost against 99% of the teams today & 99% of the QB's today IMO. He was awful & got a nice penalty, help from the Giants coaching & a great run after the catch by Hall. There are many bad OL's out there so I don't buy that for all his failures.
I partially disagree. Zach is learning. He is better. He did suck before this year

he also has never played behind a good line and a young qb behind a bad line, almost never succeeds. And if they get pounded regularly, they play like a deer in the headlights because they have been conditioned to. Pavlov’s rule

before this season, I had no faith in Zach. This year I have some hope

and Breece did nothing running the ball today and we won. If we judge him the way we judge Zach, then he must suck too. Plus, like our oline, Breece has missed as many games as he has played
I agree he is better then last year at a snails pace that is. But the ol is nor a full excuse. Many qbs face that. He stinks less then last year but at this pace he will be average by 2026
 
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