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BlindsideD'Brick

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Can the Jets bring in Brees? Is that still a possibility, after the Fitzpatrick trade?

This is an extreme long shot, but if the Jets had Brees right now, with both rosters set as they are, the Jets win the division, and possibly the whole damn thing.

Think about that. Marshall, Decker, and Amaro on offense with Brees throwing it. And defensively, our d-line and Revis (and Cro? Batman and Robin)

I'd bet on the Jets.
 

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This is an extreme long shot, but if the Jets had Brees right now, with both rosters set as they are, the Jets win the division, and possibly the whole damn thing.

Think about that. Marshall, Decker, and Amaro on offense with Brees throwing it. And defensively, our d-line and Revis (and Cro? Batman and Robin)

I'd bet on the Jets.

Brees is awful in the cold!!
 
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flgreen

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This is an extreme long shot, but if the Jets had Brees right now, with both rosters set as they are, the Jets win the division, and possibly the whole damn thing.

Think about that. Marshall, Decker, and Amaro on offense with Brees throwing it. And defensively, our d-line and Revis (and Cro? Batman and Robin)

I'd bet on the Jets.


I agree

Sadly it seems like the Breeze thing was total BS. The Saints seemed to be having a fire sale, and some local Mehta type started a rumor that Brees was for sale

When Mickey Loomis was asked about it, he replied "You guys make me laugh".
 

hobson54

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I may get bashed by some for calling out the media bias, but check out this piece from WEEI in Boston.

http://thornography.weei.com/sports/boston/2015/03/11/jets-obviously-tampered-with-darrelle-revis/

In short, it is calling for the Jets to be punished for tampering - not because of Woody's comments a couple months ago, but because of how quickly the Jets agreed to a deal with Revis. It was only four hours after he was released that he had agreed to terms with the Jets.

Just a reminder, one year ago, it took about 45 minutes after Tampa released Revis for the Pats to come to terms with him.

Sorry, but this is the world in which we live.


it looks like a blog on the website of a local boston radio (or tv?) station. probably their equivalent of the FAN in NY. i don't doubt they have a lot of homers in their local press corps, which i grant we jets fans do not benefit from
 

OCCH

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Something you guys fail to realize about performance-based contracts is that they are not iron clad contracts. Meaning, they are more at-will than anything. The less guaranteed money, the higher the likelihood of one getting cut with no recoup of salary. I don't see anyone arguing how this is unfair to players...maybe because none of you are being fair. Guys get cut all the time with 2-4 years remaining on their contract. How is the organization holding it's end of the bargain as you suggest?
Again, the organization can cut you for any reason it wants. That is not similar to conventional contract terms as most other at-will contracts include. Players are NOT protected by such contracts until they attain enough leverage to ensure a lot of guaranteed money is attached.

That's because performance-based contracts are different and they are always subject to renegotiation as per the NFL. I'm sorry most of you can't comprehend this or maybe just aren't aware, but you should be. This is not a new concept if you follow the NFL and seeing guys get cut on a daily basis.
Players exceed the performance expected in such a contract which makes them more fluid than a cost-based or fee-for-service contract where terms are stipulated and agreements are legally binding.
And no one put a gun to Woody's head when Revis held out. The organization was well in their right to not only fine for not showing up but to not re-negotiate. Who's fault was it to cave in? Never mind, I know the answer. It's always Revis' fault.
You guys are hilarious with your bitterness towards Revis. I counted one guy on this entire thread who "got it". Someone who understood that Revis has earned his payday and should get what he deserved. Only one - Hobson. The rest of you, continue hating the guy.

Fully intend to . . .
 

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it looks like a blog on the website of a local boston radio (or tv?) station. probably their equivalent of the FAN in NY. i don't doubt they have a lot of homers in their local press corps, which i grant we jets fans do not benefit from

It is the equivalent of WFAN. But this blog is written by a guy who is one of their radio hosts. It's not a fan's blog. He's actually a legitimate member of the sports media in Boston.
 

Football51

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HYATT™

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He's actually a legitimate member of the sports media in Boston.
Oxymoron statement of the month nominee....SackExchange, for suggesting ANY sports blogger is legitimate. :roflmao:

Revis is not only the best CB in the NFL, he's the best CB HYATT™ has seen play in the NFL since he started watching professional football in 1958-ish. (That's as far back as HYATT™ has a concrete memory of watching an NFL game.)
MEvis is also one of, if not THE, biggest mercenaries HYATT™ has ever seen play in the NFL.

HYATT™ is a flaming Socialist-Libertarian, an extremist on both counts - yet HYATT™ does not begrudge MEvis making all the bank he could while he could, because the old days of playing for glory are long since dead & gone.

Teams have only on very rare occasions, EVER displayed loyalty to players, (King Jerry is actually surprisingly good about this, along with his more negative aspects as an owner.)
The fan idea that players owe THEM some form of loyalty, because fans bought a jersey with a player's name on it or cheered for them in a game, is just about the most self-centered ego-centric idea HYATT™ has encountered in any walk of life.

Since when is the PROFESSIONAL game of football about anything other than making money - by both Owners AND players?
The idea that Mattell or GM, or IBM would love and honor your wishes and reward you with loyalty, at their bottom line's expense, just because you happened to have purchased a Barbie doll, a new Camaro, or a laptop, seems to me to be a very silly expectation.
Why, then, would any fan expect such an investment toward their feelings, from another vender of product - the National PROFESSIONAL Football League and/or it's players?

Get over yourselves peons - you DO NOT MATTER, because you will never rise up in your millions, unite, and refuse to go to games or refuse to buy NFL merchandise until the Owners heed your wishes.
You have ZERO leverage. You are dispensable, there is ALWAYS someone else coming along to shell out the big bux and keep this product rolling.

The players, on the other hand, are much smarter than the fans.
THEY organized a Union.
THEY used collective bargaining and the courts to win their economic and artistic freedom and to collect what essentially is their due for BEING the reason people pay out good money to watch NFL PROFESSIONAL Football.
The Owners are damn lucky the players have never gotten it into their heads to become a completely Socialist organization and run PROFESSIONAL football (and own everything in it), for themselves.

It isn't that far fetched.
2000 men decide to not play for the NFL Owners anymore, only sign contracts timed to all expire at the end of the same League Year, combine their total net worth, and start their own league - at the exact time the Network contracts come up for renewal.
How much leverage for all those TV Billions would Owners have if the NFLPA Union decided to go all Socialist on them?
In 2 years, (after some start-up snags in finding stadiums and setting up the logistics of a new league & it's marketing), the Owners would all be bankrupted by paying for empty stadiums & the new PPFL, (Players' PROFESSIONAL Football League), would be right back to thrilling us all on Sundays and raking in 100% of every football dollar spent by the fans - effectively DOUBLING their paychecks.

Revis/MEvis is back.
The Jets are better for it.
Celebrate and stop being all emotionally bent out of shape because Revis/MEvis is making a lot more money in one game than you'll make in a lifetime.
He has a talent, just like Johnny Depp, Angelina Jolie, & Russell Crowe do, that makes him/them worth millions more dollars than other people doing the same job are worth.
If you had that talent, YOU would want top dollar too - don't deny it - and you wouldn't forgo additional millions because some Joe Sixpack in Hoboken didn't like paying $9 for a movie ticket or didn't like the fact that a movie you were in was playing in a theater he didn't want to patronize.
Stop being such morons and grow the hell up.

NE doesn't have such a great QB, they have a great HC, maybe the best since Lombardi, (who had a little help from an All-Pro HoF cast of characters & only competed against half of the professional football world in the 60s anyway).
Brady isn't that much better than Fitzpatrick, maybe not even as good as Fitzpatrick.
He's just enjoyed being able to play for the best HC and possibly one of the best run organizations in professional football - while Fitzpatrick was cursed to play for a lot of badly run & under-talented loser teams throughout his career.
Sure, as an establish long-term veteran Bradybich can read defenses and play a competent game of football, but NEVER try to sit there and tell HYATT™ he possesses some "magical" quality that sets him apart from all other QBs in the NFL.
He isn't the brightest, (evidenced by his dumping the hottie Ms. Moynahan for that MANwich he married), he doesn't have a "big arm", he can't move any better than a yard line stripe can in the pocket or out of it - so exactly WHAT is it that makes him this celebrated future HoF QB?
Simple - Hoodie and a world-class OL.

Fitzpatrick has a live arm, he can scramble a bit, he now has a decent OL and some talent surrounding him - so why can't he also be a decent franchise QB?
I guess it really depends on the coaching and organization behind him in NJ, now, doesn't it?
(Oh shizit, Jets fans are in deep doo-doo again.) :roflmao:

Hoodie will remain Hoodie - we all know it.
Brady will serve as his Field General and limit mistakes so that Hoodie can do his magic -and that's where it stops.
The recent revamping of the Jets WRs, secondary, & QB position - by bringing in an actual NFL caliber QB, not some never-was prospect - has the Jets well placed to compete for the AFCE crown.
Sure Rex in BUF is going to be a headache, but MIA is still pretty messed up organizationally and coaching-wise, and NE has never been all that, talent-wise, in most seasons.
There is every reason to EXPECT the Jets to be in it right up until the last second of the last week of the season this year - and even SOME hope they will meld and become more than just a maybe contender.
HYATT™, as a professional observer, looks forward eagerly to the 2015 Jets season.
 
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ucrenegade

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first of beli sux he only wins because he cheats otherwise i agree with you on brady the only thing that makes him good is he follows the cheater and cheats with him............as far as revis i stand by what i said about the greedy ass before.
 

Elias

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first of beli sux he only wins because he cheats otherwise i agree with you on brady the only thing that makes him good is he follows the cheater and cheats with him............as far as revis i stand by what i said about the greedy ass before.

Revis is doing nothing different than any other man would do. When you are in demand, you can do whatever the hell you want. There are some consultants that charge $1,000 per hour. This is no different.
 
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ucrenegade

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Revis is doing nothing different than any other man would do. When you are in demand, you can do whatever the hell you want. There are some consultants that charge $1,000 per hour. This is no different.

I don't know what person who is making millions in a contract will turn around and say oh wait i need a new contract tens of millions because i can't feed my family basically is what he said when he was already making millions.

it is not like he was making 500 thousand a year and turned around and said he wanted a better contract.
 

HYATT™

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I don't know what person who is making millions in a contract will turn around and say oh wait i need a new contract tens of millions because i can't feed my family basically is what he said when he was already making millions.

it is not like he was making 500 thousand a year and turned around and said he wanted a better contract.
You need to get out more.
People who are their own commodity have been doing this as long as there have been people willing to shell out a clam or chunk of mastodon meat to see them do something special.
TV actors holding out for massive raises, when they already make $600,000 an episode - and TV shows have 22 games, not 16.
Sometimes they get it, sometimes they don't.
That's show biz - and so is professional football.

Actor holdouts is part of the reason why networks and cable stations are starting to produce 10, 13, & 16 episode seasons now. It gives them leverage to kill off characters who's actors get too greedy and replace them before the next season scheduled to run.

European networks have never had holdout problems, since they've always operated on short series runs of 4-8 episodes most of the time - with longer breaks between returning series, (their term for seasons), too - sometimes as much as a couple of years.
 
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ucrenegade

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HYATT™;20910 said:
You need to get out more.
People who are their own commodity have been doing this as long as there have been people willing to shell out a clam or chunk of mastodon meat to see them to something special.
TV actors holding out for massive raises, when they already make $600,000 an episode - and TV shows have 22 games, not 16.
Sometimes they get it, sometimes they don't.
That's show biz - and so is professional football.



well i just can't be that greedy i guess. I am not that type guess i would make a horrible millionaire lol
 

HYATT™

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well i just can't be that greedy i guess. I am not that type guess i would make a horrible millionaire lol
I hearz ya brutha.
If I made a couple million, I'd be gone faster than the roadrunner & the only one seeing me would be ol' Mr. Walleye on some remote lake in the boonies & the guy filling up my cuddy with more gas.
Maybe the Taco Bell kid a couple times a week too.
 
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HYATT™;20918 said:
I hearz ya brutha.
If I made a couple million, I'd be gone faster than the roadrunner & the only one seeing me would be ol' Mr. Walleye on some remote lake in the boonies & the guy filling up my cuddy with more gas.
Maybe the Taco Bell kid a couple times a week too.

I'd prob open a animal sanctuary
 

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