He had WAY too much faith in Wilson. I think the franchise still held onto the belief that Zach could be salvaged, and that Rodgers being here would be the key.
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Brett Rypien in, Boyle out.
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Well, today Saleh announces the starter for Sunday. It can't be Zach, imagine the effect on team morale when your QB is not only incompetent but has to be dragged kicking and screaming onto the field.
So it will probably be 'The Chimp' on a very short leash, with Rypien expected to appear by halftime.
So it will probably be 'The Chimp' on a very short leash, with Rypien expected to appear by halftime.
I said this all offseason! Zach should have been QB#3 if they were keeping him on the roster! It was gross incompetence having him as #2 with no veteran support behind a 40 year old QB.
Boyle should never be on another NFL roster.
Just another blunder by bringing Rodgers here.
While it's true that JD is constantly adding and subtracting O Lineman from the PS. It's unfortunately the same 3 players. Hanson at center repeatedly dropped and resigned, and Newman Johnson and Glaser replacing one another every few days. Repeatedly. Isn't that the definition of insanity? If these guys can't compete,add some different bodies to the mix. Then maybe it's fair to Say that JD is trying. Right now he is juggling a c and 2 guards almost daily.
They really did believe that Zach was the long term future QB. Fully expecting him to lead this team to championships after Rodgers retires. May still be hoping that is the case.
If that's the case then he isn't doing jack shit! He playing games to make it look like he is doing something! Maybe he should get off of the line at fat burger and go do his damn job!!!
New York Jets - Transactions
4-8-0 Overall • 1-3-0 AFC • 3rd East| DATE | PLAYER | POS | TRANSACTION |
|---|---|---|---|
| Dec 6, 2023 | C. Uzomah | TE | On IR MCL injury |
| Dec 5, 2023 | X. Newman-Johnson | OG | Pract. squad add |
| Dec 5, 2023 | T. Smart | DT | Pract. squad del |
| Dec 5, 2023 | B. Rypien | QB | Active/prac. squad |
| Dec 5, 2023 | T. Boyle | QB | Cut |
| Dec 4, 2023 | B. Hector | DT | Pract. squad add |
| Dec 4, 2023 | J. Hanson | C | Pract. squad add |
| Dec 4, 2023 | P. Winfrey | DT | Pract. squad del |
| Dec 4, 2023 | P. Winfrey | DT | Pract. squad add |
| Dec 2, 2023 | A. Amos | SS | Cut |
| Dec 2, 2023 | X. Newman-Johnson | OG | Cut |
| Dec 2, 2023 | J. Hanson | C | Active/prac. squad |
| Dec 2, 2023 | P. Winfrey | DT | Active/prac. squad |
| Nov 28, 2023 | C. James | — | Pract. squad del |
| Nov 28, 2023 | A. Brown | CB | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 27, 2023 | C. Glaser | OG | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 25, 2023 | T. Smart | DT | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 25, 2023 | J. Hanson | C | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 23, 2023 | C. Glaser | OG | Cut |
| Nov 23, 2023 | X. Newman-Johnson | OG | Active/prac. squad |
| Nov 23, 2023 | J. Hanson | C | Active/prac. squad |
| Nov 23, 2023 | T. Smart | DT | Active/prac. squad |
| Nov 22, 2023 | T. Smart | DT | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 22, 2023 | D. Kelly | OT | Cut |
| Nov 21, 2023 | T. Siemian | QB | Active/prac. squad |
| Nov 21, 2023 | C. James | — | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 20, 2023 | M. McCrary-Ball | DB | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 20, 2023 | J. Hanson | C | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 20, 2023 | T. Smart | DT | Cut |
| Nov 18, 2023 | T. Smart | DT | Active/prac. squad |
| Nov 18, 2023 | M. McCrary-Ball | DB | Active/prac. squad |
| Nov 18, 2023 | J. Hanson | C | Active/prac. squad |
| Nov 15, 2023 | T. Smart | DT | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 15, 2023 | C. James | — | Pract. squad del |
| Nov 14, 2023 | M. Carter | RB | Cut |
| Nov 13, 2023 | X. Newman-Johnson | OG | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 13, 2023 | T. Smart | DT | Cut |
| Nov 13, 2023 | M. Taylor | WR | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 13, 2023 | A. Deculus | OT | Acquired from waiver |
| Nov 11, 2023 | X. Newman-Johnson | OG | Active/prac. squad |
| Nov 11, 2023 | M. Taylor | WR | Active/prac. squad |
| Nov 7, 2023 | M. Taylor | WR | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 7, 2023 | X. Newman-Johnson | OG | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 7, 2023 | P. Winfrey | DT | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 7, 2023 | B. Hector | DT | Pract. squad del |
| Nov 6, 2023 | J. Poe | OG | Pract. squad del |
| Nov 6, 2023 | J. Hanson | C | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 6, 2023 | M. Taylor | WR | Active/prac. squad |
| Nov 6, 2023 | X. Newman-Johnson | OG | Active/prac. squad |
| Nov 1, 2023 | E. Smith | LB | Pract. squad del |
| Nov 1, 2023 | B. Hector | DT | Pract. squad add |
| Nov 1, 2023 | C. Glaser | OG | Active/prac. squad |
| Oct 31, 2023 | D. Kelly | OT | Active/prac. squad |
| Oct 31, 2023 | T. Smart | DT | Active/prac. squad |
| Oct 31, 2023 | R. Saffold | OG | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 31, 2023 | C. McGovern | OG | On IR dislocated kneecap |
| Oct 31, 2023 | A. Woods | DT | On IR torn Achilles |
| Oct 31, 2023 | J. Holmes | DT | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 30, 2023 | M. Taylor | WR | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 30, 2023 | X. Newman-Johnson | OG | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 28, 2023 | M. Taylor | WR | Active/prac. squad |
| Oct 28, 2023 | X. Newman-Johnson | OG | Active/prac. squad |
| Oct 24, 2023 | J. Bernard-Converse | SAF | Activated from PUPL |
| Oct 24, 2023 | T. Jones | DB | Pract. squad del |
| Oct 24, 2023 | L. McCutcheon | WR | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 24, 2023 | H. Nasirildeen | LB | Off IR undisclosed |
| Oct 24, 2023 | H. Nasirildeen | LB | Cut |
| Oct 16, 2023 | T. Hayes | DB | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 16, 2023 | C. James | — | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 14, 2023 | C. James | — | Active/prac. squad |
| Oct 14, 2023 | T. Hayes | DB | Active/prac. squad |
| Oct 14, 2023 | J. Hardee | DB | On IR hamstring surgery |
| Oct 11, 2023 | D. Kelly | OT | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 11, 2023 | J. Holmes | DT | Pract. squad del |
| Oct 11, 2023 | E. Smith | LB | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 11, 2023 | A. Vera-Tucker | G | On IR torn Achilles tendon |
| Oct 11, 2023 | I. Charles | WR | Active/prac. squad |
| Oct 9, 2023 | I. Charles | WR | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 9, 2023 | C. James | — | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 7, 2023 | I. Charles | WR | Active/prac. squad |
| Oct 7, 2023 | C. James | — | Active/prac. squad |
| Oct 5, 2023 | A. Pankey | OG | Pract. squad del |
| Oct 5, 2023 | X. Newman-Johnson | OG | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 3, 2023 | K. Barnes | CB | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 3, 2023 | N. Shelton | CB | Pract. squad del |
| Oct 3, 2023 | T. Hayes | DB | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 3, 2023 | C. James | — | Pract. squad add |
| Oct 3, 2023 | C. Ogbuehi | OT | Pract. squad del |
| Oct 3, 2023 | C. Glaser | OG | Pract. squad del |
| Oct 2, 2023 | C. Glaser | OG | Pract. squad add |
| Sep 30, 2023 | A. Seibert | K | Pract. squad del |
| Sep 30, 2023 | T. Smart | DT | Pract. squad add |
| Sep 30, 2023 | C. Glaser | OG | Active/prac. squad |
| Sep 27, 2023 | T. Siemian | QB | Pract. squad add |
| Sep 26, 2023 | C. James | — | Pract. squad del |
| Sep 25, 2023 | C. Glaser | OG | Pract. squad add |
| Sep 23, 2023 | D. Brown | OT | On IR shoulder, hip |
| Sep 23, 2023 | X. Valladay | RB | Pract. squad add |
| Sep 23, 2023 | C. Glaser | OG | Active/prac. squad |
| Sep 23, 2023 | S. Eguavoen | LB | Active/prac. squad |
| Sep 22, 2023 | C. Glaser | OG | Pract. squad add |
| Sep 22, 2023 | X. Valladay | RB | Pract. squad del |
| Sep 21, 2023 | R. Swoboda | OT | Pract. squad del |
| Sep 21, 2023 | C. Ogbuehi | OT | Pract. squad add |
| Sep 21, 2023 | L. Duvernay-Tardif | OG | Retired |
| Sep 20, 2023 | I. Charles | WR | Pract. squad add |
| Sep 20, 2023 | T. Smart | DT | Pract. squad del |
| Sep 18, 2023 | S. Eguavoen | LB | Pract. squad add |
| Sep 18, 2023 | A. Seibert | K | Pract. squad add |
| Sep 16, 2023 | I. Charles | WR | Cut |
| Sep 16, 2023 | A. Seibert | K | Active/prac. squad |
| Sep 16, 2023 | A. Seibert | K | Pract. squad add |
| Sep 16, 2023 | T. Boyle | QB | Active/prac. squad |
| Sep 16, 2023 | S. Eguavoen | LB | Active/prac. squad |
| Sep 13, 2023 | B. Echols | CB | Reinstated |
| Sep 12, 2023 | M. Taylor | WR | Pract. squad add |
| Sep 12, 2023 | B. Echols | CB | Exempt/Commissioner's Permission List |
| Sep 12, 2023 | B. Echols | CB | Suspension lifted |
| Sep 12, 2023 | S. Eguavoen | LB | Pract. squad add |
| Sep 12, 2023 | C. Johnson | LB | Pract. squad del |
| Sep 11, 2023 | S. Eguavoen | LB | Active/prac. squad |
| Sep 6, 2023 | J. Moreland | CB | Off IR hand |
| Sep 6, 2023 | J. Moreland | CB | Cut |
| Aug 31, 2023 | M. McCrary-Ball | DB | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 31, 2023 | X. Valladay | RB | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 31, 2023 | T. Jones | DB | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 31, 2023 | J. Poe | OG | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 31, 2023 | J. Holmes | DT | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 31, 2023 | R. Swoboda | OT | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 30, 2023 | A. Pankey | OG | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 30, 2023 | T. Morstead | P | Signed |
| Aug 30, 2023 | C. Johnson | LB | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 30, 2023 | S. Eguavoen | LB | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 30, 2023 | K. Yeboah | TE | On IR hamstring |
| Aug 30, 2023 | T. Boyle | QB | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 30, 2023 | N. Shelton | CB | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 30, 2023 | Z. Kuntz | TE | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 30, 2023 | C. James | — | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 30, 2023 | N. Bawden | RB | Signed |
| Aug 30, 2023 | T. Smart | DT | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 30, 2023 | T. Dean III | SAF | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 30, 2023 | M. Spencer | DE | Pract. squad add |
| Aug 29, 2023 | D. Alexandre | DE | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | D. Langford Jr. | CB | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | J. Kapp | WR | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | M. Waters | SAF | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | B. Laing | OG | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | T. Colon-Castillo | C | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | B. Hector | DT | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | N. Bawden | RB | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | T. Luther | WR | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | T. Boyle | QB | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | S. Eguavoen | LB | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | N. Shelton | CB | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | C. James | — | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | T. Smart | DT | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | J. Holmes | DT | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | T. Morstead | P | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | T. Dye | RB | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | C. Cherelus | LB | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | C. Johnson | LB | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | M. Spencer | DE | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | C. Glaser | OG | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | T. Dean III | SAF | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | Z. Kuntz | TE | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | G. Hermanns | OT | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | E. Jenkins | TE | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | M. Taylor | WR | Cut |
| Aug 29, 2023 | J. Bernard-Converse | SAF | Placed on PUPL |
| Aug 28, 2023 | A. Pankey | OG | Cut |
| Aug 28, 2023 | G. Senat | OT | Cut |
| Aug 28, 2023 | N. Vigil | OLB | Cut |
| Aug 28, 2023 | P. Taumoepenu | LB | Cut |
| Aug 28, 2023 | A. Erickson | WR | Cut |
| Aug 28, 2023 | Z. Knight | RB | Cut |
| Aug 25, 2023 | D. Cruikshank | DB | Cut |
| Aug 23, 2023 | C. Davis | WR | Retired |
| Aug 17, 2023 | N. Shelton | CB | Signed |
| Aug 17, 2023 | Y. Cajuste | OT | Off IR undisclosed |
| Aug 17, 2023 | Y. Cajuste | OT | Cut |
Truthfully, I never thought he would be as horrible as he has been in a backup role. Granted, his role changed four plays into the season, which is so Jets. But still...
Who was available that the Jets could have gotten that would truly help the Jets' OL? I think there is some misguided belief that there are All Pro linemen who are perfect fits for the Jets, and they're just sitting at home waiting for Joe's phone call.
As someone who has played the game, and coached the game, I will say there are certain things that I look for first and foremost in a QB and unfortunately it is extremely difficult to train (most who can't do it, never can). The way I always evaluate is
1. Ability to read a defense
2. Ability to anticipate a throw
3. Arm strength
4. Athleticism
It is literally in that order. If you can't do #1, I won't both to evaluate 2 --> 4. #1 & #2 are the most important and what makes a player an actual QB. Unfortunately Zach does not have these skills and never has, and has shown no ability to develop in that realm.
This is not something that has improved over the past 3 years, it's the same as it was when he was a rookie. Off script works for him because he can run around and look for the open player, but he simply has issues reading defenses, looking off defenders, and making any timing and rhythms throws.
I didn't see these traits in his highlight reels from college and didn't like the pick from day 1. That being said, here we are three seasons later and Zach still looks like the same player that came out of college three years ago.
Hindsight is always 20/20 but honestly, if we take a look at all of the OL who were drafted after our picks, were they all busts? This goes back to poor talent evaluation, and honestly taking positions like DE that we are overloaded at (and not playing several guys) while ignoring positions of need (like OL, WR, Safety.......)
The guy you want may not be there, but that is why you evaluate plan A/B/C/D/E/F etc...... and if you have positions of need you have to have several options there for every round so you are not coming out of the draft with the same weaknesses and needs that you walked in with.
As one of many examples in his brief career, how does Zach miss this throw? It's wide open, especially by NFL standards. He just has never been able to do the simple things which make a QB successful.
Fant should have been retained. Could have been signed for $4mill. Had a down year in 22 (forced to play injured because the Studs Lol, were on IR) compared to his stellar 2021 campaign. Funny thing is, his down year was way better than Becton's campaign though 11 games this year, and Becton was being praised.
The line should have been addressed in free agency and the draft. JD was content to depend on injury prone and sub par players. That's why the O line is where it's at. I think there is some misguided believe that JD has been successful building the Jets O line. 7 premium draft picks and a 6th round pick, $356 million in free agency and maybe 1 reliable starter for next season............. Defenseless....
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But in the MLFL Milf Lingerie Football league
Douglas believes in drafting for later potential. Always the high ceiling low floor guy. Unfortunately few reach the high ceiling in the NFL without approaching it in the NCAA
If they truly believe this I can honestly say with 100% certainty that this franchise is absolutely fucked.
And this is and always will be a problem. It should always be production over potential.
I can see drafting for ceiling in later rounds, but not prime picks. And definitely not when trying to produce a win now roster...