Jelly Donut took over this team and went 7-9 and that wasn't even his team. They won't win 7 games 5 years into his masterplan.And beyond, no doubt. Fixing would mean going undefeated, unscored upon, or they suck.
Jelly Donut took over this team and went 7-9 and that wasn't even his team. They won't win 7 games 5 years into his masterplan.And beyond, no doubt. Fixing would mean going undefeated, unscored upon, or they suck.
26-56Jelly Donut took over this team and went 7-9 and that wasn't even his team. They won't win 7 games 5 years into his masterplan.
And again, he tore it down because there was nothing there. I know it would have been a lot easier to just go out and sign a bunch of free agents to bad contracts and deal picks for veterans. That would have appeased the Jets-hating Jets fans who bitch and moan if the team isn't competitive.Jelly Donut took over this team and went 7-9 and that wasn't even his team. They won't win 7 games 5 years into his masterplan.
Tore it down only to sign a 38 year old QB. A 39 year LT and a 33 year old WR. So basically we are back where we started. I gave him a chance with all his swings and misses and now he failed badly with the Rodgers injury. Not his fault, but he had no plan B. Its insane to me to start 7-9 then 2-14, then 4-13, then 7-10 and now 6-10. The only season he hasn't had double digit losses is the one season he had nothing to do with.And again, he tore it down because there was nothing there. I know it would have been a lot easier to just go out and sign a bunch of free agents to bad contracts and deal picks for veterans. That would have appeased the Jets-hating Jets fans who bitch and moan if the team isn't competitive.
The guy tore it down to the studs. We usually don't have GMs who do that because as soon as most GMs try it, Jets fans act like their usual moron selves and start flying planes with banners and buying billboards about how much everyone sucks and needs to be fired. I've seen it over and over and over and over again with this franchise.
So let's do it again. Let's fire everyone, bring in a new regime, and demand they win immediately. And when picks and young players are traded, or left unsigned because of a lack of cap room, but an older roster offers a sliver of hope with a 9-win season and a shot at a wild card, we're back where we've been over and over again.
Can you honestly believe that? Can you believe that we are where we started from?Tore it down only to sign a 38 year old QB. A 39 year LT and a 33 year old WR. So basically we are back where we started. I gave him a chance with all his swings and misses and now he failed badly with the Rodgers injury. Not his fault, but he had no plan B. Its insane to me to start 7-9 then 2-14, then 4-13, then 7-10 and now 6-10. The only season he hasn't had double digit losses is the one season he had nothing to do with.
SMDH! FiguresNeither have done shit all year. They look good playing the Jets. Moore has 2 TD's. He would bitch and cry with the QB's this year. And Michael Carter doesn't even have 100 yards rushing and he has been on two teams.
A pass rush? How many times did they sack that statue tonight?? I just don't see how some on here don't think record matters. It's not like they were 7-9 playing high school football in 2019 and are now 6-10 playing in the NFL. Yes they have a handful of better players at key positions, but that obviously doesn't equate to wins. JD was all about building through the draft until he realized he is not that great at drafting so he brought in a 38 year old QB and his buddies. I don't fault him, but when you take a swing like that then you deserve to be held accountable when it doesn't work or when you don't. have a plan B. The Browns on 4th QB are 11-5. The Jets are 6-10. We are wasting another year next year to just run it back with this cast.Can you honestly believe that? Can you believe that we are where we started from?
Did JD inherit a young #1 WR? An elite young CB1, and a very good CB2? A pass rush? If you don't see anything different in this team from what Douglas inherited, then you just hate him regardless of any fact.
The QB was brought in because the team made such a massive mistake with Zach. And yes, that counts against him. I do think Douglas' ideal would have been to have the entire rest of the roster set, and then bring in a drafted first round QB that can step into a great situation. Zach was both a bad choice and he was drafted too early, but I think Douglas felt he needed to strike when they had the pick to land a young QB they liked. That is why Rodgers is here.
Brown and Becton, see above. I loved Becton's upside but had concerns about him staying on the field - enter Brown. The LT I really coveted that year was Andrew Thomas, but he was gone. Douglas has hit on some good linemen, like AVT (who had no injury past when he was drafted) and Tippmann. He's had some misses, like Becton and the Tomlinson signing. Show me a team that hasn't had both hits and misses.
As for Cobb, are you kidding me? His cap hit is minimal, and he's hardly a big part of the offense. Complaining about that is just complaining because you love to. If the team didn't have a young #1 WR and brought him in to suit that role, absolutely fair criticism. But that is far from the case here.
Again I said facts and you disagree. Michael Carter is trash. Moore looks to be decent with decent QB play especially when he is a #2. Attitude was his problem not talent. Michael Carter has a great attitude, but minimal talent.SMDH! Figures
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I agree some bad luck has happened, but how long should we trust the process when the process hasn't lead to wins?I think Joe Douglas gets a bad rap by Jet fans . The man has tried to do what he promised when he got the job. If he got fired I wasn’t throwing a tantrum about it but the man has tried and he’s been victimized.
He drafted 3 OLmen in the early rounds since he’s been here . He signed away a pro-bowl OG to try and build the OL .
He’s added multiple players to build a pretty solid defense .
He added a #1 Receiver and a #1 RB to the offense . Personally I think he’s been a victim of awful luck exasperated by His awful pick of Zach Wilson. I’m glad the Johnson Family has decided to let it ride one more year. There’s something here that just needs a bit of a break .
Excellent treatise.When the NFL released its 2023 season schedule back in May with a Thursday night Jets-Browns contest kicking off Week 17, many people envisioned Aaron Rodgers and Deshaun Watson leading their teams into a Dec. 28 battle that would have playoff implications for both clubs. But nothing is promised and in one of the most unlikely QB matchups in recent history, Trevor Siemian will start for the 6-9 Jets and the 10-5 Browns will counter with Joe Flacco.
Siemian, who celebrated his 32nd birthday Tuesday, became the fourth Jets QB to start this season and he went home a victor Sunday when Greg Zeurlein nailed a 54-yard field goal to give the Jets a 30-28 triumph over the Washington Commanders. Flacco, set to turn 39 on Jan. 16, became the Browns fourth QB to start a few weeks ago and he's guided Cleveland to a 3-1 mark.
Loved Playing with Him
Joe Flacco has history with the Jets and he was on the winning side of one of the franchise's most improbable outcomes that came at the hands of the Browns. Trailing 30-17 to the Browns on Sep. 18, 2022, Flacco helped the Jets overcome a 13-point deficit in the final 1:55 for a miraculous 31-30 win in Cleveland. With Cool Joe throwing for 307 yards and 4 TDs, the Jets went out and did what was virtually impossible. Prior to that furious rally, teams that had trailed by 13 of more points in the final two minutes from Week 9 of 2001 through opening week of 2022 had no wins and 2,229 losses.
"I loved playing with him," said Jets WR Garrett Wilson, who, as a rookie, was Flacco's favorite target that day with 8 catches for 102 yards and 2 TDs. "He's a great player, he's seen it all. He's a Super Bowl champion and you can tell, the confidence that he has in himself and the way he goes out and backs it up. He's a fun guy to play with and one of those dudes that last year I tried to latch on and build a relationship with."
Despite being plagued by quarterback instability and offensive line issues, Wilson has been sensational in his sophomore pro campaign and needs 42 yards to reach 1,000 for the first time and 12 catches over the final two games to amass 100 receptions. The Jets have two legitimate young stars on offense in Wilson and RB Breece Hall, a dual threat whose 65 receptions are second in the league among RBs and his 537 receiving yards are tied for first (Chrisitan McCaffrey). While the focus in the short-term must be the Browns and statistically the best defense in the NFL, the long-term vision is Wilson and Hall taking the ball from Aaron Rodgers, who was lost four plays into a season that began with great anticipation.
"It's been a grind," HC Robert Saleh said this week. "Everybody has closed her eyes, closes their eyes and imagined success right away. We knew there was going to be a process. Obviously, we all felt great, coming into this year with all the expectations and hype that's around the football team and it was awesome. It hasn't gone the way we wanted, obviously, but it doesn't mean that the goal of winning championships is over."
They're Special
Trevor Siemian, a journeyman QB whose 2019 season was ended on a late hit from Myles Garrett in a Jets' 23-3 loss to the Browns, will transition from lining up against the 32nd-ranked Washington defense to the league's top statistical outfit in the Browns. Garrett is still wreaking havoc and leads the way with 13 sacks, Za'Darius Smith has pitched in 5.5 QB takedowns, LB Jeremiah Oswusu-Koromoah (87 tackles, 18 TFL, 3.5 sacks) is a rare talent and the Browns are tied for No. 2 in the NFL with 25 takeaways. It's a most difficult assignment, but the Jets have two offensive pieces that can help Siemian put points on the board in Wilson and Hall.
"You watch them play and you're like "man, how did that happen?" or "how did you do that?" Special," Siemian said.
Hall has amassed 1,195 yards from scrimmage and his 4.2 yards per carry is significant considering Rodgers' absence plus an injury plagued offensive line that has started 12 different combinations. The Browns will try to limit his space and then Jim Schwartz can get creative with a third-down defense that is atop the NFL (28.7%).
"There's going to be a lack of space, that's for darn sure," Robert Saleh said of Hall's terrain. "But it's going to be gritty, it's going to be grimy, it's just having the same mentality that he's taken over the last few weeks of finding every yard he can and guys being efficient, communicating and being violent."
Starting to Hit Stride
While the Jets do have a "soft spot" for Joe Flacco, they field a violent defensive unit themselves and they will be up for the challenge ahead. Flacco has thrown for 300-plus yards during the Browns three-game win streak, but the Jets have not allowed a 300-yard passer in 33 games and own the NFL's No. 2-ranked pass defense. Jets CB Sauce Gardner recalled facing Flacco in practice last season.
"He made some plays on me, I made some plays on him," Gardner said. "I caught some picks last year against him. Like I said, he made some plays against me as well. I'm looking forward to it. He's a great player, an even greater guy."
Gardner, the Jets second-year cornerback typically stationed on the left side, could travel at times to match up with Browns top target Amari Cooper (72-1,250-17.4-5TD). Tight end David Njoku (75-748-10.06TD) and former Jets wideout Elijah Moore (54-579-10.7-1TD) highlight a balanced attack around Flacco, the veteran who made 9 starts for the Jets in 2020-22.
"We always joke around — make the quarterback a hero and Amari is playing some great football, great football," Saleh said. "The run game, the O-line, the defense is getting him the ball. With each passing week, he is getting more and more confident, the team is getting more and more confident and they're starting to hit stride at the perfect time. So, they are galvanizing around it and you can see it on tape."
After a short week, the Jets have a tall challenge and a chance to play spoiler against an old friend.
