The Walking Dead "Try" Episode Discussion (SPOILERS)

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SPOILER ALERT! If you haven't watched tonight's episode of The Walking Dead, don't read any further!

"Try" for me represented how damaging the post-apocalyptic world can be on the human psyche. The negative psychological effects are clearly evident throughout the entirety of the episode within the characters of Sasha and Rick. Each of those characters have specific reasons why they are becoming "unhinged" from sanity and in the process sacrificing their ethics and morality.

Sasha's trifecta loss in Bob, Tyreese, and Noah solidified her descent into unrelenting madness. Each of those deaths represented a loss in humanity within Sasha. In Bob, she lost love, in Tyreese, she lost family, and in Noah she lost friendship. When all of those things are stripped away from you, one is bound to break.

Rick is a whole other story. His break with sanity is a direct result of his repeated failed attempts to keep his group of survivors alive whether that was at the Atlanta camp, the Hershel farm, or the Prison. This was his last chance to provide any semblance of normality for everyone that he has sworn to protect. I don't think that this is Rick becoming the new governor and I don't think its him being villainous either. This is Rick trying to balance the new rules of the post-apocalypse with the old laws of the pre-apocalypse. And that last scene shows this juxtaposition.

Both Rick and Michonne represent those opposing viewpoints. Rick in his bloodied sheriff outfit represents his descent into madness and his assimilation of the new rules whereas Michonne in the clean sheriff outfit shows her refusal to sacrifice her morals and resilience to hold onto the old laws. This in my opinion is why it had to be Michonne to stop Rick in that last emotionally powerful scene.

Speaking of that last scene, I've never seen Rick get his ass whopped like that since well the governor. It was also interesting to see how far Rick had fallen from Season one. Both he and Pete hit someone they loved. Pete hit Jesse and Rick hit Carl. Which of the those two characters is more righteous? And in those moments, its hard as a viewer to believe Rick when he gives his speech to Deanna. Is he right? Are these Alexandrians doomed? Or is Rick just grasping at straws and dooming his group? It's hard to tell at this point, which is why I love the Walking Dead. Always keeps its viewers on our toes.

Finally, the 90-minute season finale airs next Sunday and I think both Rick's group and the Alexandrians need to start worrying about those mysterious walkers with the Ws on carved on their foreheads because if the writers are bringing in the character I think they are then the shit's about to hit the fan for everyone involved.

All this and Carl's about to get it in.

"Keep Walking"

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excellent breakdown as always teach!! i look foward to them after every episode..

"try" isn't my favorite style of walking dead episodes but i do see how it's a means to an end if nothing else..

i was disappointed nothing about gabriel's betrayal was addressed.. & now that rick has theoretically blown the doors off of peacefully coexisting with the alexandria folks, does it even get broached in the season finale??

sasha's flipping out (i get that) but wasting a ton of ammo with neither michonne or rosita calling her on it?? i mean no "i feel your pain baby girl but this ain't helping" moment??

still i have no doubt the season finale will be balls to the wall..

oh teach, i'm reading the comics now..
i'm up to the governor (issue #42) getting ready to raid the prison..
 

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almost forgot..

carl & enid hiding in a tree instead of running?? really?? did we have to be force fed the beginnings of their "puppy love" with such a ridiculous plan to elude the walkers?? if just one walker in that small heard saw them they both would have been done.. suspension of disbelief notwithstanding, that's fail..
 

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almost forgot..

carl & enid hiding in a tree instead of running?? really?? did we have to be force fed the beginnings of their "puppy love" with such a ridiculous plan to elude the walkers?? if just one walker in that small heard saw them they both would have been done.. suspension of disbelief notwithstanding, that's fail..

Yea they wasted a lot of time on unnecessary storylines like the one with Carl and Ennid but I have a feeling there will be a payoff in the finale. I think they are trying to build as much tension as possible before the finale.

Still can't get that last scene with Rick out of my head. What a great performance by Andrew Lincoln.

Let me know what you think of the comics so far!


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almost forgot..

carl & enid

Enid is a strange name
Spelled backwards : Dines. Walker

Not to crazy about the whole RICK gone over the edge thing :wtf:
You know he's going to be the kick ass savior when this coming shitstorm hits.
And Michonne got some explaining , she should have slammed Pete. She could keep her " clean " uniform but RICK knows this new camp isn't a real civilization and something's got to give
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Enid is a strange name
Spelled backwards : Dines. Walker

Not to crazy about the whole RICK gone over the edge thing :wtf:
You know he's going to be the kick ass savior when this coming shitstorm hits.
And Michonne got some explaining , she should have slammed Pete. She could keep her " clean " uniform but RICK knows this new camp isn't a real civilization and something's got to give
Why can't I find the spoiler button?
yeah, i'm just looking foward to the season finale to being really good, plus it's 90 minutes..

before you start a message click the "go advanced" tab.. that will give you the option of using the spoiler tab..
 

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Aha
Forgot I used it before
Anyway ,read somewhere ,not a big spoiler just a general statement
You really can read but I'll put it in

Fans will cry,get really pissed , angered, satisfied , and the show goes in a different direction.

These are my guesses
I don't think anyone from "our" group will die
The Wolves ( W ) have to show up
Morgan must be around
RICK will be at odds with his "family" and team Alexandria as a cliffhanger
Maybe ,still have Carol and Daryl as allies
Unless we see a real divide of the entire group some on Ricks side some with ASZ

I'll say RICK, Carol,Daryl, Abraham ,Rosita vs Sasha , Michonne , Glenn , Maggie , Tara
Carl stuck in the middle and Gabriiel with alexandrite crowd
Maybe Jesse joins team RICK
Eugene can go either way

:hopelessness:
 

jetgreen13

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Aha
Forgot I used it before
Anyway ,read somewhere ,not a big spoiler just a general statement
You really can read but I'll put it in

Fans will cry,get really pissed , angered, satisfied , and the show goes in a different direction.

These are my guesses
I don't think anyone from "our" group will die
The Wolves ( W ) have to show up
Morgan must be around
RICK will be at odds with his "family" and team Alexandria as a cliffhanger
Maybe ,still have Carol and Daryl as allies
Unless we see a real divide of the entire group some on Ricks side some with ASZ

I'll say RICK, Carol,Daryl, Abraham ,Rosita vs Sasha , Michonne , Glenn , Maggie , Tara
Carl stuck in the middle and Gabriiel with alexandrite crowd
Maybe Jesse joins team RICK
Eugene can go either way

:hopelessness:
interesting.. i didn't really give much thought to our "survivors" not staying on the same team..



even after this..
 

TeachDown

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I can totally see next season factions amongst our survivors being formed. Team Rick vs Team Michonne?


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jetgreen13

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I can totally see next season factions amongst our survivors being formed. Team Rick vs Team Michonne?


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that would be very dramatic but i'm not rooting for it.. at least not long term..

[MENTION=107]Bigmoe[/MENTION]??
 

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that would be very dramatic but i'm not rooting for it.. at least not long term..

[MENTION=107]Bigmoe[/MENTION]??

Definitely not long term.

If they did have Rick splinter off, would anyone even want to follow him? Maybe Carol, but I can't envision anyone else...


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Definitely not long term.

If they did have Rick splinter off, would anyone even want to follow him? Maybe Carol, but I can't envision anyone else...


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lots of moving parts going into the season finale..

& i'm digging the comics, BTW..
 

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that would be very dramatic but i'm not rooting for it.. at least not long term..

[MENTION=107]Bigmoe[/MENTION]??

Yea, our gang has been up against it all along and finally reach a " safe " zone
Some thing it's paradise, others see it as a hell ripping them apart
I'm just getting the vibe that this is the twist the writers are going to give us
Will fans go with one side or the other or have them get back to " we are family "
Just my thoughts
Not a bad spin, but I really have no info that this is really the way it's going
Will see
I'm still for team RICK
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The seeds have been planted and it seems that's the direction they are going. It will definitely be an interesting twist.


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