Jace Amaro calls out Rex Ryan and the former regime/Rex responds

[BlindsideD'Brick]

So now you're telling me Amaro is Jimmy Graham??? Ridiculous, he looks like he should develop into a nice starting TE, but you can compare the numbers all you like there was nothing "explosive" about Amaro the way there is with Graham, and Graham never had a problem hanging onto the ball. Besides, this entire topic was about what he said not what he's done, and the bottom line is for a second year player to make comments like he did is just plain stupid. I don't care who he plays for, it could be the Patriots and it would still be a dumb thing to do. If some of you want to pretend it wasn't stupid ill-advised feel free.

We're not pretending about anything. We have opinions different than yours about Amaro the player and what he said.
It's an opinion forum. You're not anymore "right" about it than people who disagree with you.

Nice sidestepping of the fact that Amaro had similar stats to Jimmy Graham. Nobody said Amaro was going to have the same career as JG, but the fact of the matter is that he had similar stats as Graham in his rookie year.

 

[SackExchange]

So now you're telling me Amaro is Jimmy Graham??? Ridiculous, he looks like he should develop into a nice starting TE, but you can compare the numbers all you like there was nothing "explosive" about Amaro the way there is with Graham, and Graham never had a problem hanging onto the ball. Besides, this entire topic was about what he said not what he's done, and the bottom line is for a second year player to make comments like he did is just plain stupid. I don't care who he plays for, it could be the Patriots and it would still be a dumb thing to do. If some of you want to pretend it wasn't stupid ill-advised feel free.

So you're saying that Amaro, despite not being explosive and having drop problems, put up the same rookie numbers as Graham, with Geno as his QB?

Based on that, if he works on his hands and his explosiveness, he could be better than Graham? Thanks for the vote of confidence for a Jet!

 

[SackExchange]

We're not pretending about anything. We have opinions different than yours about Amaro the player and what he said.
It's an opinion forum. You're not anymore "right" about it than people who disagree with you.

Nice sidestepping of the fact that Amaro had similar stats to Jimmy Graham. Nobody said Amaro was going to have the same career as JG, but the fact of the matter is that he had similar stats as Graham in his rookie year.

He's a Pats fan. He assumes his opinion is fact.

 

[grogan14]

We're not pretending about anything. We have opinions different than yours about Amaro the player and what he said.
It's an opinion forum. You're not anymore "right" about it than people who disagree with you.

Nice sidestepping of the fact that Amaro had similar stats to Jimmy Graham. Nobody said Amaro was going to have the same career as JG, but the fact of the matter is that he had similar stats as Graham in his rookie year.

Sure we have different opinions and many Jets fans share mine, yet they aren't attacked for them. You have every right to think Amaro shows good character throwing the previous administration under the bus, after they are gone, and I have every right to think he's a gutless tool.

 

[grogan14]

So you're saying that Amaro, despite not being explosive and having drop problems, put up the same rookie numbers as Graham, with Geno as his QB?

Based on that, if he works on his hands and his explosiveness, he could be better than Graham? Thanks for the vote of confidence for a Jet!

He could very well develop into a better player than Graham, or not, I just wouldn't bet on it from the one season he's had so far.

 

[SackExchange]

Sure we have different opinions and many Jets fans share mine, yet they aren't attacked for them. You have every right to think Amaro shows good character throwing the previous administration under the bus, after they are gone, and I have every right to think he's a gutless tool.

A gutless tool who would be an upstanding guy who wants to work hard if he was a Patriot and said the same thing.

I've heard tons of Pats fans bash Rex. Now they're bashing the guy who called out Rex. Sounds like having it both ways to me.

 

[SackExchange]

He could very well develop into a better player than Graham, or not, I just wouldn't bet on it from the one season he's had so far.

I have no idea if he will. But you pointing out coachable flaws in him, despite his solid numbers, makes it more likely he will compare favorably to Graham, not less.

 

[Superman55]

I have no idea if he will. But you pointing out coachable flaws in him, despite his solid numbers, makes it more likely he will compare favorably to Graham, not less.

...or to Jason Witten...having a debate with a Pats fan is like having a pet rock. It's fun for about the first minute after you get it then you realize you just wasted 1 entire minute of your life on a pet rock.

Funny how similar Pats fans and rocks are...

 

[SackExchange]

...or to Jason Witten...having a debate with a Pats fan is like having a pet rock. It's fun for about the first minute after you get it then you realize you just wasted 1 entire minute of your life on a pet rock.

Funny how similar Pats fans and rocks are...

:roflmao:

 

[hobson54]

Sure we have different opinions and many Jets fans share mine, yet they aren't attacked for them. You have every right to think Amaro shows good character throwing the previous administration under the bus, after they are gone, and I have every right to think he's a gutless tool.

a player commenting on how the prior regime didn't hold players accountable for stuff like being on time to meeting is now a gutless tool? so i guess it's better that players accept the lack of accountability than to say how they are glad the new regime will actually hold players accountable?

btw - these are the comments you are talking about. sounds like you are making a mountain over a molehill:

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2015/04/jace_amaro_rex_ryan_didnt_hold_jets_accountable.html

"He's not really playing around with everyone being late," Amaro said of Bowles. "We had an issue with that last year. Guys just weren't accountable last year as much as they could be. I think that's the biggest thing. [Bowles is] making sure everyone's gonna be 100 percent in or he's not going to be on the team."

 

[sg3]

Patriot players and others fairweather chowds like grogantroll14 have thrown under the bus the nanosecond they left the Patriots

Ty Law
Lawyer Milloy
Brandon Browner
Logan Mankins
Drew Bledsoe
Bill Parcells
Josh McDaniels
Randy Moss
Hundreds more

 

[sg3]

Jace Amaro may have coachable flaws, but by all accounts, he is a good teammate and person


OTOH, of the two great Patriot tight ends, one is a semi retarded jackass and the other is a serial murderer

Who would you rather have

 

[Superman55]

Jace Amaro may have coachable flaws, but by all accounts, he is a good teammate and person


OTOH, of the two great Patriot tight ends, one is a semi retarded jackass and the other is a serial murderer

Who would you rather have

Do you expect to receive an intelligent answer back?

 

[grogan14]

Patriot players and others fairweather chowds like grogantroll14 have thrown under the bus the nanosecond they left the Patriots

Ty Law
Lawyer Milloy
Brandon Browner
Logan Mankins
Drew Bledsoe
Bill Parcells
Josh McDaniels
Randy Moss
Hundreds more

Kind of like you and Revis, care to deny? Fact is most all fans are rooting for laundry, Jet fans are no different.

 

[grogan14]

Jace Amaro may have coachable flaws, but by all accounts, he is a good teammate and person


OTOH, of the two great Patriot tight ends, one is a semi retarded jackass and the other is a serial murderer

Who would you rather have

The Patriots only have one great TE, his skills are unmatched in the NFL. If your trying to make an argument that Amaro should be mentioned in the same breath as Gronk, coachable skills or not, you've already lost one of the dumbest arguments I've yet seen anyone ever try and make. All this aside the original debate wasn't about what Amaro is, or will be as player, it was a simple question of if it was wise for a player to throw the previous organization under the bus publicly? I've stated my case clearly and without malice that it was a dumb thing to say and served on positive purpose. What's funny is for as dumb as you claim Gronk to be, at least he's earned the right to his antics. I don't remember Gronk dropping many balls as a rookie.

 

[SackExchange]

The Patriots only have one great TE, his skills are unmatched in the NFL. If your trying to make an argument that Amaro should be mentioned in the same breath as Gronk, coachable skills or not, you've already lost one of the dumbest arguments I've yet seen anyone ever try and make. All this aside the original debate wasn't about what Amaro is, or will be as player, it was a simple question of if it was wise for a player to throw the previous organization under the bus publicly? I've stated my case clearly and without malice that it was a dumb thing to say and served on positive purpose. What's funny is for as dumb as you claim Gronk to be, at least he's earned the right to his antics. I don't remember Gronk dropping many balls as a rookie.

It's amazing. For someone who claims to so dispassionately observe football without regard for team bias, you always seem to overhype Patriots and understate Jets.

 

[SackExchange]

Kind of like you and Revis, care to deny? Fact is most all fans are rooting for laundry, Jet fans are no different.

Neither are Pats fans.

Difference is, nobody else here patted themselves on the back for their objectivity the way you did. You're no better than anyone else, but you try to act like you are.

 

[Parcells123]

The Patriots only have one great TE, his skills are unmatched in the NFL. If your trying to make an argument that Amaro should be mentioned in the same breath as Gronk, coachable skills or not, you've already lost one of the dumbest arguments I've yet seen anyone ever try and make. All this aside the original debate wasn't about what Amaro is, or will be as player, it was a simple question of if it was wise for a player to throw the previous organization under the bus publicly? I've stated my case clearly and without malice that it was a dumb thing to say and served on positive purpose. What's funny is for as dumb as you claim Gronk to be, at least he's earned the right to his antics. I don't remember Gronk dropping many balls as a rookie.

We'll agree to disagree. Amaro's quote was quite harmless and he didn't mention Rex by name. As I stated before, he probably was baited by a reporter's question. If some veterans are annoyed at a young ascending player for talking about work ethic and accountability, then maybe those said veterans should be worried about their job security.

In the NFL the star players set the tone for an organization. Brady for the Pats. Revis and Wilkerson for the Jets. Other players on the Jet roster probably don't even know about Amaro's statements and it probably won't be brought up in camp.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[sg3]

The Patriots only have one great TE, his skills are unmatched in the NFL. If your trying to make an argument that Amaro should be mentioned in the same breath as Gronk, coachable skills or not, you've already lost one of the dumbest arguments I've yet seen anyone ever try and make. All this aside the original debate wasn't about what Amaro is, or will be as player, it was a simple question of if it was wise for a player to throw the previous organization under the bus publicly? I've stated my case clearly and without malice that it was a dumb thing to say and served on positive purpose. What's funny is for as dumb as you claim Gronk to be, at least he's earned the right to his antics. I don't remember Gronk dropping many balls as a rookie.

Well for a change you got one thing right by linking Gronkowski and dumb things in the same post

 

[hobson54]

actually, gronk dropped more balls than amaro last year (7 vs 6). granted it was on a lot more attempts.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2014/

gronk seemed to have a very good rookie year, as i can't even find him on the list of drops. interestingly, the league leader in drops in 2010 (gronk's rookie year) was wes welker, with 13. aaron hernandez (also a rookie in 2010) had 7 drops that year, good for #16 that year.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2010/