Peters will be gone by 20-25 if not early... too good , at too an important position..plus he is the best CB in draft....
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Peters will be gone by 20-25 if not early... too good , at too an important position..plus he is the best CB in draft....
I think Dorsett is at least TY HIlton..if not ANTONIO BROWN
I'd say Hilton but faster and I'll take it everyday of the week. Especially on Sunday!!
Guys, he's not that good. He isn't Brandin Cooks, TY Hilton, Santana Moss, or DJax yet...could he develop into that? I think he can. He does a lot of things well and he's a hard worker.
I dont know if many of you remember TY Hilton coming out, but he was a 4 year starter...as a true freshman out of high school he performed better in college than Dorsett's best season. Hilton senior year he doubled (almost tripled) Dorsett's best year at Miami.
Hilton was a one man offense in college, like Cooks, DJax, etc...Dorsett caught 33 balls...guys like White who some doubt as a 1 year wonder caught 106...Hilton in the 70s...these are #1 WR prospects...
I still think Dorsett can be a #2 , but he hasn't done anything in college yet to feel he's on the level of Brandin Cook, DJax, S Moss, or Antonio Brown...
I am very excited about Dorsett as a prospect at #37 ...but if a team drafts him rd 1, I'll consider it a HUGE reach. If he goes rd 1, IMO, its further proof how much weaker this WR class was than last year. Brandin Cook went in the low 20s last year and caught 100 balls, had 30 rushes, and was their leading KR and PR....Lee, Matthews, and Robinson went later in rd 2 as college standouts...and Dorsett goes rd 1 catching 30 balls at Miami? As a comparison, Santana played with Reggie Wayne and Portis and was catching 45+ balls a year.
I have very strong feelings about his upside...really do...but I feel comparing him to Antonio Brown is comparing him to one of the top 5 WRs in the game who caught 130 passes and 13 TDs last year when he managed just 33 balls for Miami is a huge leap...
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ucrenegade
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based on that i agree with the tier he is in.
and to be honest i think it is a damn good board ham based on the recent allegations where do you think ray falls 2nd or even possibly 3rd round?
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ucrenegade
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In gaileys offense I view him as a stevie johnson type that he had in buffalo which is why I am so high on him.
I wouldn't take him 6th but if we can trade back get a few extra picks including a high second rounder i would take him in a second.
Maybe on Stevie Johnson...that may be a good call. Johnson, who didn't do anything his first 2 years in the league (12 total receptions)...then had 82, 76, 79...then 52 and 35 receptions for his career (i.e. his career is basically over)...I could see him being something like this...which is half the player of what Antonio Brown is...
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ucrenegade
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no he is not close to brown but johnson did have his best years under gailey.
It will be interesting to see which skill positions we add that Gaily and Co target. We keep thinking it will be names like Coleman, Duke Johnson, Dorsett, etc...it would be funny if instead we add Strong and Yeldon...two players we arent talking about.
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ucrenegade
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It will be interesting to see which skill positions we add that Gaily and Co target. We keep thinking it will be names like Coleman, Duke Johnson, Dorsett, etc...it would be funny if instead we add Strong and Yeldon...two players we arent talking about.
if we go that route I woudn't mind tevin coleman over yeldon
Thanks for the compliment, uc
I think he and Gregory will still go in the first round, but now its no sooner than the middle of the first round and possibly late 1's, but I still don't see them getting out of the first round, too much talent at a premium position (pass rushers).
Really nice work again Ham. Appreciate the effort.
Thanks 51, much appreciated.