Rex may be the least cerebral coach I have ever seen.
Which may explain some of his popularity.
Which may explain some of his popularity.
Rex Ryan (sort of) admits he made mistakes with Jets
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Rex was the perfect coach for the team he took over at that particular time.
The problem is that his schtick was going to eventually wear off, and when that happens and the team stops drinking the kook aid, things go south fast.
Add on a clueless GM in Idzik, and a terrible QB situation and it just adds fuel to the fire. I actually expect him to have a big impact on the Bills this season, because he is exactly what they need right now. A firecracker to inspire the troops after a HC in Marrone who used methods similar to Mangini.
Rex inspires players at the outset and they will play for him. The question is how long Rex's shelf life is. I give him 4 years in Buffalo without making a run. If he guides them to the playoffs, you can bet that a team as starved for the postseason as Buffalo, won't kick him to the curb very fast.
The problem is that his schtick was going to eventually wear off, and when that happens and the team stops drinking the kook aid, things go south fast.
Add on a clueless GM in Idzik, and a terrible QB situation and it just adds fuel to the fire. I actually expect him to have a big impact on the Bills this season, because he is exactly what they need right now. A firecracker to inspire the troops after a HC in Marrone who used methods similar to Mangini.
Rex inspires players at the outset and they will play for him. The question is how long Rex's shelf life is. I give him 4 years in Buffalo without making a run. If he guides them to the playoffs, you can bet that a team as starved for the postseason as Buffalo, won't kick him to the curb very fast.
There is truth to this. He does come in as a breath of fresh air, believing in his guys. He's especially good at following a more disciplinarian, or a more distant HC.
But you are absolutely right about his shelf life. Players eventually figure out that although they may play hard on Sundays, they don't have to work hard the rest of the week. There is no accountability, and unless you have a room of self-motivated guys who don't need the motivation, players start to get lazy.
My suspicion is that he may start out hotter in Buffalo, because he is stepping into such a good situation (minus the QB), but his shelf life will be even shorter. He is a known commodity, and some Bills players, watching what he did with their division rivals, will begin to coast even earlier than they did here.
That is a great point about Amaro. I had not even considered it. But Rex most definitely comes across as a hypocrite in all this.
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ucrenegade
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Exactly nothing more needs to be said perfect
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ucrenegade
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yeah but he will chug beer with you and do fart jokes all night.
Maybe I have judged him too harshly
Idzik didn't have a say in the 2009/2010 drafts which started our rapid decline. Rex was the most powerful voice in the room then. Idzik didn't run up to Tannenbaum's office clamoring for Santonio Holmes. Idzik also didn't push for Mason to be brought in 2011 which caused Cothchery to ask for a trade/release. The decline of this team(unlike Ryan's revisionist history and lack of accountability) actually started the year he arrived.
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ucrenegade
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It really did he took a good roster and made it shit and it slowly declined each year because he didn't know how to evaluate players.
he is great xo defensive coach that is it, but he doesn't know what it takes to be a hc and he certainly does not know how to evaluate talent or was ever a scout.
like I keep saying rex is so arrogant if he had a team of ball boys he would still boast how his defense would be top 5.
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Lakerfan80
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I was surprised when the Bills hired him because I didn't think they needed a defensive coach. We will see this season if Rex's scheme is a better fit and use of personnel than former DC Schwartz and his 4-3 wide 9..I thought it was perfect for both Williams/Hughes on the end and Dareus/Williams inside.
Yeah, the Bills were 4th overall in defense last season. How much more of a difference will Ryan make? Also, while their cb's are good, IMO, they are not at the level of our 2009/2010 teams, so if Ryan plays a lot of cover zero............
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The issue with Rex is, where does the bluster end and the actual analysis begin? Who knows what he actually thinks about any of his players or coaches? At first, it seems like he's confident in his players, and they like that, but over time it becomes clear that HE WILL TALK UP ANY PLAYER, NO MATTER HOW GOOD OR BAD THEY ARE, AS LONG AS THEY ARE ON HIS TEAM. Suddenly, it means jack shit when he says how good you are. Effusive praise delivered indiscriminately has a numbing effect. Rex comes in and says "this guy can be a pro bowler," and it means NOTHING, because he would say that about anyone.
So the question then becomes, what are his real feelings about his players and coaches? If he really believes the things he says, he is delusional, and if he doesn't, then he's full of crap, essentially.
So the question then becomes, what are his real feelings about his players and coaches? If he really believes the things he says, he is delusional, and if he doesn't, then he's full of crap, essentially.
Between what you posted and what I read in Collision Low Crossers, I had enough of Ryan. He just seemed to become more entertainer than coach.
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JohnnyBaseball1
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Agreed. And I generally did find him entertaining. But as it became clear that he had little involvement with the offense, or even knowledge of what was going on around the team (Santonio Holmes incident really was a turning point), and didn't have the ability to adapt to changing circumstances, the act started to wear thin. When, finally, last year the defense also wasn't any good, it became time to move on for me. It isn't to say that he doesn't have ability or do some things well, just that his deficiencies in certain key areas were too great to ignore. It never felt like he was moving the team forward after that second season.
So Rex Ryan, speaking to reporters at a charity softball event at Yankee Stadium, just matter-of-factky stated Bills will make playoffs.
Rich Cimini @RichCimini 59s59 seconds ago
So Rex Ryan, speaking to reporters at a charity softball event at Yankee Stadium, just matter-of-factky stated Bills will make playoffs.
Rex being Rex. It works when his roster is good.
Much credit to Rex the person for driving six hours for a charity event for True Blue, NYPD. He's a great guy.
Back to predicting the playoffs and talking up every player he has. He's a mediocre coach with serious flaws.
I'd love to be friends with the guy, but I don't want him coaching my favorite team.
Back to predicting the playoffs and talking up every player he has. He's a mediocre coach with serious flaws.
I'd love to be friends with the guy, but I don't want him coaching my favorite team.
He definitely has some issues. I mean he's probably the only coach out there that can't not answer that question.
I bet you Bowles gets asked that everyday but refuses to answer. Don't understand why Rex can't shut up!
Because he carries the infamous Buddy gene.
You are slightly uninformed. Idzik was terrible and Ryan was being a team player, he publicly stated that idzik had a great draft both years. What Ruan regrets is not stepping up and telling woody they can't win. He kept a positive attitude and was a good soldier.